
Getting Smart Podcast
This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership.
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Latest episodes

Jul 2, 2025 • 35min
How Can AI Technology Transform Classroom Instruction? | Habib Bangura
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen dives into the cutting-edge world of AI in education with Habib Bangura from Urban Assembly. Discover how Project Cafe is revolutionizing classroom instruction by providing real-time, developmental feedback to teachers. By utilizing AI-driven video analysis, this innovative tool enhances teaching efficiency and effectiveness, paving the way for improved student outcomes. Join the conversation to explore how technology is transforming traditional educational models and what it means for the future of learning. Outline (00:00) Introduction to the Podcast (06:19) Urban Assembly's Mission and Approach (11:52) Challenges in Scaling Instructional Quality (17:01) Project Cafe: AI-Driven Instructional Feedback (27:32) Future of AI in Education Links Watch the full video here Read the full blog LinkedIn The Urban Assembly

Jun 27, 2025 • 33min
What Does Real-World Learning Look Like in Rural Tennessee? | Elizabethton High School
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, join Tom Vander Ark as he explores the transformative power of community-engaged learning with guests from Elizabethton High School in rural Tennessee. Discover how educators like Dustin Hensley are redefining education by integrating real-world challenges into the classroom, allowing students to develop crucial skills and a sense of purpose. Hear inspiring stories from alumni Veronica Watson and Sadie Whitehead, who share how these experiences have shaped their personal and professional lives. This conversation highlights the importance of student-centered education and the potential for community engagement to create meaningful learning opportunities. Tune in to learn how schools can become vibrant hubs for community connection and innovation. Outline (00:00) Introduction to Community Engaged Learning (02:45) Student-Centered Learning in Action (14:20) Leadership and Community Impact (27:19) The Role of AI in Community Learning (29:43) Advice for Educational Leaders (31:52) Conclusion and Final Thoughts Links Watch the full video here Read the full blog Dustin Hensley LinkedIn Elizabethon City Schools Dustin Hensley Profile Sadie Whitehead Chatt Foundation team

Jun 25, 2025 • 32min
What can we learn from pathways implementation around the world? | Paul Herdman
In this discussion, Paul Herdman, CEO of the Rodel Foundation of Delaware, explores the transformative impact of pathways in education. He highlights how work-based learning and school-to-career transitions enhance student readiness. Herdman shares insights from global initiatives and emphasizes the importance of collaboration between schools and employers. He advocates for adaptive pathways that focus on equity, social-emotional skills, and preparing for an AI-driven job market, showcasing the need for scalable solutions in education.

Jun 20, 2025 • 51min
What is the Lasting Impact of High Quality Project-Based Learning? | Ryan Sprott, Annah Sanchez, Daniela Hernandez, and Bianca Garza
In this conversation, Ryan Sprott, an educator and PBL advocate, joins former students Bianca Garza, Daniela Hernandez, and Annah Sanchez to discuss the transformative Borderland project. Bianca reflects on how it shaped her views on the border, while Daniela highlights the importance of real-world learning about migration. Annah emphasizes the emotional weight of storytelling in education. Together, they explore how project-based learning fosters personal growth, empathy, and critical thinking, making a strong case for its relevance in today's learning environments.

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Jun 18, 2025 • 35min
How do you drive lasting systems change? | The Learning Innovation Framework
Dive into the conversation about transforming education through innovative frameworks. The speakers tackle how personalized, competency-based learning and AI can address systemic challenges. They emphasize the power of community involvement and leadership in fostering lasting change. The discussion also highlights the importance of research and development to enhance educational strategies. Discover how collaboration and well-defined design principles can revolutionize educational systems, ensuring equity and improved outcomes for all learners.

Jun 13, 2025 • 34min
How Can Learning Ecosystems Change Educational Opportunities in Michigan? | Monique Uzelac
Monique Uzelac, Executive Director of the Washtenaw Educational Options Consortium, leads the charge for innovative educational choices in Michigan. She discusses the powerful impact of collaborative programs like competency-based learning and early college opportunities. Monique emphasizes the importance of nurturing relationships and belonging in fostering student engagement. The conversation also covers balancing technology with personal connections and envisioning future advancements in career and technology education, creating a personalized learning ecosystem for every student.

Jun 11, 2025 • 35min
How Can Schools Be Transformed By Joy? | George Philhower
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers has a vibrant conversation with Superintendent Dr. George Philhower to explore how joy, alongside connection, growth, and success, forms the core of their educational commitments. Learn about their innovative initiatives, like the Joy Integration Specialist role and Joy Jam conference, which transform learning experiences by fostering genuine curiosity and purpose. Join us to see how these efforts are not just enhancing academic engagement but also preparing students for real-world challenges with confidence and credentials. Whether you're an educator, parent, or community leader, this episode offers valuable insights into creating a thriving, joyful learning environment. Tune in now and be inspired by a district daring to ask, "What if joy came first?" Outline (00:00) Introduction to the Getting Smart Podcast (01:19) Joy as a Learning Goal (03:48) Creating Joyful Learning Experiences (05:40) The Role of the Joy Integration Specialist (10:41) Connecting with Students and Community Partners (22:07) Rethinking Credits and Learning Outcomes (28:32) Joy Jam: A Unique Professional Development Experience Links Watch the full episode Read the full blog Eastern Hancock Schools Website LinkedIn Joy Jam! 2025

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Jun 6, 2025 • 47min
Catching Up! | An AI Research and Leadership Framework, Humanities 2.0, and Incentivizes that Fuel Communities of Learning
Dive into the future of education as hosts explore the transformative role of AI leadership and innovative learning spaces. They discuss how applied humanities are reshaping higher education and highlight exciting community initiatives that enhance learning. The conversation also touches on the integration of digital credentials and the evolving landscape of educational choices, the needs of modern job markets, and the healing power of music. A compelling mix of insights that will ignite new ideas for educators and policymakers!

Jun 4, 2025 • 31min
How Can we Unlock The True Potential Of School Assessments? | BB Ntsakey & Kelly Niccolls
BB Ntsakey, the Managing Director at Blueprint Co. Education Partners, and Kelly Niccolls, the Director of Teaching and Learning at Cheney School District, discuss the transformative potential of liberatory assessment. They critique traditional testing methods for stifling student growth and advocate for personalized, student-centered assessments that recognize diverse strengths. Their conversation highlights how embracing innovative practices can foster a supportive learning environment, empower students, and ultimately improve engagement and achievement in educational settings.

May 28, 2025 • 22min
Voices of Small Schools Podcast: Sustainability
Amar Kumar works at KaiPod Learning, focusing on innovative approaches to education. He shares compelling insights on the sustainability of microschools, emphasizing financial strategies that integrate tuition setting and community partnerships. The discussion unveils the challenges leaders face, such as ensuring educational equity and planning for succession. Kumar highlights how microschools are redefining success by marrying passion with practical financial planning, paving the way for impactful learning environments tailored to diverse communities.