Getting Smart Podcast
Getting Smart
This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership.
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Dec 19, 2025 • 31min
How Will AI Transform Education in 2026 and Beyond? | Ben Kornell
In this dual-episode podcast, Tom Vander Ark of Getting Smart and Ben Kornell of EdTech Insiders dive into the transformative year of 2025 in education and share bold predictions for 2026. They explore how AI-driven innovations, work-based learning, and personalized education models are reshaping teaching and learning. From the rise of AI-forward schools to the impact of generative AI on traditional classroom practices, Tom and Ben discuss key trends such as the shift to learner agency, creativity, and critical thinking. They also tackle pressing challenges, including the increasing automation of the workforce, the potential backlash against AI in K-12 education, and the growing importance of teacher training for AI integration. This episode is packed with insights, predictions, and actionable advice for educators, policymakers, and edtech leaders navigating the future of learning. Outline (00:00) The Rise of AI Automation and Its Impact on Education (10:21) Work-Based Learning and Career Education (15:23) AI-Forward Schools and New Learning Models (24:59) Teacher Training and Professional Development (29:09) Closing Thoughts and Looking Ahead Links Read the full blog here LinkedIn ASU + GSV Summit
Dec 17, 2025 • 45min
Can Team-Based Teaching Revolutionize Education? | Rebecca Hutchinson & Brent Maddin
Join Rebecca Hutchinson, a forward-thinking Superintendent from Michigan, and Brent Maddin, a director at ASU focusing on team-based teaching. They delve into the transformative potential of collaborative teaching frameworks. Discover how these innovative models can enhance teacher retention, foster deeper student connections, and improve learning outcomes across grades. They also share insights from Concord's pioneering efforts and the importance of adapting to today's educational challenges, such as incorporating generational shifts and advancing technology.
Dec 12, 2025 • 31min
What Happens When We Embrace Real World Learning? | Kenny Rodriguez
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Dr. Kenny Rodriguez, Superintendent of Grandview School District in Kansas City, shares how his district has embraced real-world learning and innovative pathways to drive student success. From his early work with Big Picture Learning in Tulsa to leading regional collaborations with neighboring districts, Dr. Rodriguez discusses the importance of breaking down barriers to provide shared opportunities for students. He highlights how Grandview integrates student passions into education through personalized learning pathways, partnerships, and hands-on experiences like Project Lead the Way. Tune in to hear how his leadership philosophy—focused on collaboration, creativity, and putting students first—has transformed education in his district and beyond. Outline (00:00) Discovering Big Picture Learning in Tulsa (09:38) Building Pathways in Kansas City (14:18) Regional Collaboration Begins (19:52) Creating Shared Pathway Portfolios (23:59) Leadership Through Learning (28:00) Advice for Aspiring Superintendents Links Read the full blog here Watch the full video here Grandview School District X | Kenny Rodrigues
Dec 10, 2025 • 31min
How Is This Teen Transforming Lagos with Green Spaces? | Amara C. Nwuneli
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Mason Pashia sits down with Amara Nwuneli, the Africa 2025 Earth Prize regional winner, to discuss her inspiring work tackling urban climate challenges in Lagos, Nigeria. Amara shares how her project, The Green Sustainability Hub, integrates sustainable infrastructure into underserved communities by transforming waste into green spaces. From her experiences at COP 30 to her journey of securing grants and mentorship, Amara provides an inspiring look into youth-driven climate solutions, the importance of experiential learning, and the power of starting small to create meaningful change. Tune in to hear how mentorship and real-world projects can empower young leaders to reimagine urban sustainability. Outline (00:00) Criteria for Park Locations (09:32) School vs Real-World Learning (14:09) Finding the Earth Prize and Mentorship (18:32) Marketing and Communications Skills Links Watch the full video here Read the full blog here LinkedIn Preserve Our Roots The Earth Prize
Dec 5, 2025 • 37min
What is Power of Participation and How Can Civics Help Learners Thrive? | Fernande Raine
Fernande Raine, the founder of History CoLab and a leader in civics and humanities education, joins the discussion to explore the vital role of civic engagement in shaping youth. She emphasizes the need for a reinvention of civic education amidst crises of disconnection and democracy. Fernande introduces the '18 by 18' framework, highlighting key learning journeys for students. The conversation also touches on how fostering connection and creation can empower young people and how traditional civics education needs a shift towards inclusivity and engagement.
Dec 3, 2025 • 46min
Is It Time to Recognize Childcare as a Public Right? | Elliot Haspel
Elliot Haspel, a child and family policy expert and author, dives deep into the urgent need for recognizing childcare as a public right. He discusses the significant impact of early childhood care on brain development and why it's crucial for society as a whole. Haspel emphasizes the hidden costs families face and argues for a mixed-delivery childcare system that is accessible to all. He also shares insights on how to build support among non-parents, linking childcare to broader community benefits and advocating for a tax-funded model akin to public education.
Nov 26, 2025 • 39min
How Can Youth Participation Shape the Future? | UNICEF Foresight Fellows
Join Izumi Vázquez, a Harvard grad and UNICEF Youth Foresight Fellow, alongside Caitlin McKern and Shai Naides from UNICEF, as they explore the power of youth voices in reshaping education. They discuss critical gaps in support during transitions and why youth often lack representation in policy. Learn how the Youth Foresight Fellowship empowers young leaders to envision inclusive futures, and discover practical tools for incorporating student feedback. From building confidence to equipping youth with transferable skills, this conversation is a call to action for a more engaged future.
Nov 21, 2025 • 47min
Catching Up: Early Reading, Cognitive Luxury, and Monarch Butterflies
In the latest episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia dive into a dynamic mix of topics shaping the future of learning and beyond. From exploring early reading development and its ties to brain pathways, to addressing the ethical concerns around AI and student surveillance, this episode balances critical education insights with thought-provoking discussions. The hosts also delve into the concept of "cognitive luxury," emphasizing the importance of creating space for deep, free, and slow thinking in today's fast-paced world. Wrapping up with the awe-inspiring migration of monarch butterflies and their remarkable precision, this episode offers a unique blend of education, innovation, and human connection. Tune in to explore how these themes intersect and inspire a brighter future for learners everywhere. Outline (00:00) Youth Perspectives on AI and Surveillance (05:17) Early Reading Development and Brain Pathways (10:24) Gifted and Talented Programs: Rethinking Early Testing (16:06) Cognitive Luxury: Spaciousness, Agency, and Depth (24:55) YouTube as an Educational Ecosystem (36:15) Monarch Butterflies and Human Connection (42:08) The Art of Touch: Tearing Your Food Links Watch the full video here Read the full blog here Hechinger Report More in Common Builders Movement Arthur Brooks - Love Your Enemies
Nov 19, 2025 • 45min
How Can We Build Equitable Mentorship Systems for Personalized Learning? | Polygence
In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers sits down with Jen Chow, co-founder and COO of Polygence, Rahul Patel, founder of Hypothesis to Hardware, and Zohra Khawaja, founder of Hearts Against Homelessness, to explore how equitable mentorship and personalized learning systems can empower students to thrive. The conversation delves into the transformative power of mentorship when it becomes more than just a "nice-to-have," highlighting how mentorship systems that prioritize student agency, critical thinking, and curiosity can create meaningful, scalable, and equitable learning opportunities. From the role of expert mentors to the integration of AI in education, this discussion emphasizes the importance of meeting learners where they are and creating pathways for all students to succeed—regardless of their circumstances. Tune in to hear inspiring stories of impact and actionable strategies for building mentorship systems that work for everyone. Outline (00:00) Introduction to the Getting Smart Podcast (06:05) The Impact of Personalized Learning (08:49) Zohra's Journey and the Future of Mentorship (24:38) Passion Projects and Student Agency (29:47) Overcoming Challenges and Accessibility (36:16) Recognition, Impact, and Closing Thoughts Links Watch the full video here Read the full blog here Polygence Hearts Against Homelessness Hypothesis to Hardware LinkedIn | Zohra Khawaja LinkedIn | Rahul Patel LinkedIn | Jin Chow
Nov 14, 2025 • 32min
How Can Educators Teach Students to Use AI Ethically and Responsibly? | Douglas Fisher
Dr. Douglas Fisher, a professor at San Diego State and a leader at Health Sciences High School, dives into the nuanced world of AI in education. He discusses his new book, emphasizing the urgent need for AI literacy among students. Fisher shares insights on teaching ethical AI use, essential skills like data literacy, and practical classroom applications. He advocates for an 'about, for, with' AI framework and warns against repeating past mistakes in tech integration. A thought-provoking conversation for educators seeking to empower students in a digital future.


