

Behind the Numbers: an EMARKETER Podcast
EMARKETER
EMARKETER’s podcast, Behind the Numbers, helps marketers, retailers, and advertisers understand the rapidly changing landscape of digital media. EMARKETER analysts and industry experts come together to analyze a wide variety of critical topics, from the transformative influence of AI to the dynamic world of social media, and the evolving landscape of consumer shopping habits. Stay informed and stay ahead with insights and analysis that matter. Tune in to new episodes published Monday through Friday wherever you find podcasts.
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Oct 31, 2025 • 24min
The Digital Lives and Lifestyles of Everyone in the World: How People Watch TV, Short-Form Video’s Global Divide, and More | Behind the Numbers
 On today’s podcast episode, we discuss how much TV streaming is really going on around the world, in which countries radio is holding its own, and short-form video’s place in the social media world. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and host, Marcus Johnson, Principal Analyst, Paul Briggs, Vice President of Research, Jennifer Pearson, and Chief Insight Officer at GWI, Jason Mander. Listen everywhere and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
 
Reports mentioned in this episode:
https://content-na1.emarketer.com/global-media-intelligence-report-2025
 
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https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-behind-numbers-digital-lifestyles-everyone-world-how-people-watch-tv-global-divide-more
 
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Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com. 

Oct 29, 2025 • 30min
The Unofficial Most Interesting Retailers List (October) | Reimagining Retail
 On today's podcast episode, we discuss the unofficial list of the most interesting retailers for the month of October. Each month, host Suzy Davidkhanian, Arielle Feger, Becky Schilling, and Emmy Liederman (aka The Committee) put together a very unofficial list of the top eight retailers they're watching based on which are making the most interesting moves: Who's launching new initiatives? Which partnerships are moving the needle? Which standout marketing campaigns are being created? In this month's episode, Committee members Suzy Davidkhanian and Arielle Feger will defend their list against Senior Analyst, Blake Droesch and Analyst, Rachel Wolff, who will dispute the power rankings by attempting to move retailers up, down, on, or off the list.
 
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For a transcript of this episode click here: https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-unofficial-most-interesting-retailers-list-october-reimagining-retail
 
 
© 2025 EMARKETER
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com. 

Oct 27, 2025 • 20min
“Everyone Watches The WNBA” — How Women’s Sports Are Changing Audiences and Advertising | Behind the Numbers
 On today’s podcast episode, we discuss how WNBA viewership did the year after the ‘Caitlin Clark Effect’ hit the league, what social media will do to full-game viewership growth, and what advertisers should be paying attention to most amidst this surge in women’s sports. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and host, Marcus Johnson, and Analysts Marisa Jones and Paola Flores-Marquez. Listen everywhere and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
 
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For a transcript of this episode click here:
https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-behind-numbers-everyone-watches-wnba-how-womens-sports-changing-audiences
 
© 2025 EMARKETER
 
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com. 

Oct 24, 2025 • 22min
Is ChatGPT the Next Operating System? What That Means for Google and AI Devices | Behind the Numbers
 Yory Wurmser, a principal analyst specializing in advertising and media, teams up with Grace Harmon, a tech analyst focused on AI. They explore the potential of OpenAI as a super app that could transform consumer devices, discussing its impact on traditional platforms like Google. The duo analyzes which integrated apps will thrive within ChatGPT and what monetization strategies may emerge. They also ponder the shifting landscape of data privacy and the future of AI-first interfaces, predicting a gradual, yet significant disruption in tech. 

Oct 22, 2025 • 25min
Building Brands That Stand Out In A World That Never Turns Off with Lulus and The Lead | Reimagining Retail
 In this podcast episode, we discuss how do you decide when to lead with data versus when to trust your team’s creative instinct, how your brand can stand out on social media, how shopper expectations changed, and more. Listen to the discussion with Vice President of Content and guest host, Suzy Davidkhanian, Principal Analyst, Sky Canaves, Chief Content Officer at The Lead, Sonal Gandhi, and SVP of Marketing at Lulu’s, Patrick Buchanan.
 
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For a transcript of this episode, click here: https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-building-brands-that-stand-world-that-never-turns-off-with-lulus-lead-reimagining-retail
 
© 2025 EMARKETER
 
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com. 

Oct 20, 2025 • 36min
The Other Side of Loyalty That Most Brands Miss with Fetch and Nestlé | Behind the Numbers
 On today’s podcast episode, we discuss what it means to have an authentic relationship with your customer, the benefits of collaborating on loyalty, and how to make folks feel like they are getting the most out of their rewards app. Join our conversation with analyst and guest host, Arielle Feger, GM of CPG Partnerships at Fetch, Carmen Gonzalez-Meister, and Director of Category and Ecommerce Strategy at Nestlé, Nicole Lesinski. Listen everywhere you find podcasts and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
 
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For a transcript of this episode, click here: https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-other-side-of-loyalty-that-most-brands-miss-with-fetch-rewards-nestle
 
© 2025 EMARKETER
 
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com. 

Oct 17, 2025 • 25min
Digital Lessons 2025 — The Triopoly’s Power, the Sleeping YouTube Giant, AI Search Behavior, and More | Behind the Numbers
 Join Eleni Digalaki, VP of Global Content Operations, and Yory Wurmser, Principal Analyst, as they unpack the digital landscape of 2025. Discover why the ad triopoly's hold is slipping despite rising dollar share, and learn about the under-monetization of YouTube despite its vast attention. The duo discusses the barriers limiting e-commerce growth in sectors like food and auto, and how AI might reshape shopping behaviors. With insights on emerging competition from platforms like TikTok, this conversation dives deep into the future of digital advertising. 

Oct 15, 2025 • 29min
‘Instant Checkout’: How ChatGPT Could Redefine Online Shopping Before Amazon and Google Strike Back | Reimagining Retail
 On today’s podcast episode, we discuss how much of a splash ChatGPT’s new ‘Instant Checkout’ is likely to make, what kinds of things people are most likely to use it to buy, and if Amazon and Google can offer compelling alternatives. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and guest host, Marcus Johnson, and Senior Analysts, Carina Lamb (formerly Perkins) and Zak Stambor.
 
To learn more about our research and get access to PRO+ go to EMARKETER.com
 
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For a transcript of this episode click here:
https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-instant-checkout-how-chatgpt-could-redefine-online-shopping-reimagining-retail
 
© 2025 EMARKETER
 
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com. 

Oct 14, 2025 • 22min
The New American Dream: How Brands Are Aligning with Young People’s Aspirations | The Banking & Payments Show
 In today’s episode, we talk about whether the “American Dream” is less achievable, or just different, how this new economic reality has reshaped consumer behavior, and how brands are marketing aspiration differently. Join the discussion with host and Head of Business Development, Rob Rubin, Senior Director of Briefings, Jeremy Goldman, and Analyst, Paola Flores-Marquez.
 
To learn more about our research and get access to PRO+ go to EMARKETER.com
 
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For a transcript of this episode click here:
https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-banking-payments-show-new-american-dream-how-brands-aligning-with-young-people-aspirations
 
© 2025 EMARKETER
 
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com.
  

Oct 13, 2025 • 21min
How Much Traditional Media Still Matters: Last Stand—or a New Beginning? | Behind the Numbers
 On today’s podcast episode, we discuss how linear TV ad dollars are still managing to outweigh CTV ad dollars, what’s primarily responsible for driving growth in out-of-home ad spending this year, and if some new high-profile print media initiatives can stem the print ad spend bleeding. Join Senior Director of Podcasts and host, Marcus Johnson, Senior Analyst, Ross Benes, and Senior Forecasting Analyst, Zach Goldner. Listen everywhere and watch on YouTube and Spotify.
 
To learn more about our research and get access to PRO+, go to EMARKETER.com
 
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For a transcript of this episode, click here: https://www.emarketer.com/content/podcast-how-much-traditional-media-still-matters-last-stand-or-new-beginning-behind-numbers
 
© 2025 EMARKETER
 
Consumers skip ads but not rewards. Fetch drives performance with 12.5M+ monthly users and 11.5M+ receipts scanned daily, capturing 88% of household spend. Your brand becomes the reward earning real engagement, verified purchases, and lasting loyalty. Fetch: America’s Rewards App. Where brands are the center of joy. Learn more at business.fetch.com. 


