

The Excellence Cartel
Jeff Black / Jason Theobald
Join us each episode as we learn to be better at our crafts as coaches and business owners in the health and fitness space.
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Sep 1, 2021 • 38min
Episode 101 - 1st Phorm Weekend Recap
Episode 101: 1st Phorm Weekend Recap We had an awesome weekend in St. Louis talking business with other top coaches in the industry at 1st Phorm headquarters and we wanted to share what we learned. Networking in this industry is extremely important and we didn't want to miss out on this chance to meet new and upcoming faces of coaching. If you couldn't make the trip down you can listen to our experience and maybe we'll see you at our next destination!
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8/31/21
1st Phorm Event Recap
:37 Trainer Revenue Multiplier www.mathewpark.com/tec free consultation
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2:00 PEC 5 Dallas Jan 28 29
3:40 Jasons last 7 days
5:50 Jeff Su’s last 7 days
7:47 Jeff Blacks Last 7 days
9:45 Nick’s last 7 days
11:20 Jeff Su’s trip recap
14:35 What did you think of the 1st Phorm gym?
17:21 Jason’s trip recap
19:49 what did you think of the gym?
30:00 closing thoughts on why you should go to these events
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Aug 18, 2021 • 58min
Episode 100: G-Flux Applied with Brandon DaCruz
Episode 100: G-Flux Applied with Brandon DaCruz
We invited Brandon back onto our show today to go over the various ways to apply the G-Flux concept to different client populations. There are so many ways to make moving around more enjoyable. Brandon goes over some creative methods we can all expend more energy without adding more time on the treadmill.

Aug 11, 2021 • 1h 1min
Episode 99: GFLUX with Brandon DaCruz
Episode 99: GFLUX with Brandon DaCruz
Today we invited Brandon back to discuss energy flux and the concepts surrounding CICO (calories in versus calories out). When most people diet to lose fat, calorie restriction is often inevitable, but energy expenditure restriction is an option. Is it better to eat less and do less? Or way more and do more? We discuss the considerations of both approaches as it relates to contest prep and feeding up to fix hormonal dysfunction.
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8/10/2021
Brandon Cruz
:35 Jason’s Last 7 Days
2:08 Jeff Su’s last 7 Days
4:26 Jeff Black’s Last 7 Days
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9:18 Brandon’s Last 7 days
16:33 What is G flux?
32:25 Do you use G flux with digestion/gut health issues?
42:45 What are the 3 studies you want share today?
47:20 What is the second study?
53:35 What is the 3rd study?

Aug 4, 2021 • 60min
Episode 98: Strength Finders
Episode 98: Strength Finders
Today we sat down with business coach J.R Simon to discuss each of our top five strengths as coaches and business owners. Prior to recording this episode we each took a leadership assessment and he discusses our results live. Leadership and business go hand in hand and there are many different leaders who have many different ways to get a job done. Do you lean more toward strategy or empathy? Do you execute or do you connect? What are the misconceptions of your strengths? Today we found out. Tune in for insight and laughs!
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Jul 28, 2021 • 1h 25min
Episode 97: Training Smart with John Jewett
Episode 97: Training Smart with John Jewett
Fresh off of his first call out top 4 placement at the Chicago Pro, John Jewett joins us today to talk about training and progression. We discuss the interrelationships of volume, frequency, intensity, and time under tension and how various applications of these variables can help beginners and advanced trainees alike to continue progression without injury. John also takes a deep dive into training female clients with hypothalamic amenorrhea, and discusses the considerations needed for success.
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Jul 21, 2021 • 1h 3min
Episode 96: Body Image with Megan Shaver
Episode 96: Body Image with Megan Shaver
Today we invited Megan Shaver, mental health coach for Polly Pocket Fitness to discuss body image and how negative self perceptions affect both men and women of all ages. Body image issues begin as early as age 12 for boys and girls, and social media adds fuel to this fire. Megan discusses ways parents can educate and provide love and support for their children who are growing up in our digital age. We also dive into the psychology of fitness competitors, handling the post-show time frame, and how to eventually deal with transitioning out of physique competition.
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TEC 7/20/21
0:31 Jeff Su’s last 7 days
1:54 Jason’s last 7 days
2:30 Jeff Blacks last 7 days
3:30 1st Phorm Event Business of fitness August 27-28th theexcellencecartel.com
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6:10 TRM mathewpark.com/tec
7:16 Megan’s last 7 days
8:02 what brings you to the podcast? What do you do?
10:00 how many men struggle with body image issues? How does it manifest itself?
11:50 what type of encouragement would you give for someone post competition?
15:45 how do you know when to stop? Whether it’s bodybuilding, Botox etc?
19:05 if someone was going to retire from this sport, do you believe they should seek counseling? And how would someone go about this?
22:30 what are some other hobbies that you would suggest that are completely outside their sport?
24:00 what is the average age women have body image issues?
25:20 what can a parent do to help their 12 year old kids to help them with these issues?
28:00 what would be your advice to women who struggle with body image and intimacy? And what advice do you have for their partners?
32:45 how do you work with a client who has body image issues but has to use social media?
39:40 how do you talk to your partner about this? How much weight does your partner have in encouraging your body image?
43:30 how do you deal with couples where one gets in shape and the other doesn’t follow and their divorced a couple years later?
48:30 do you believe people use fitness to hide from what is actually a deeper issue down deep?
51:45 what advice would you give a competitor as they are working through their reverse diet as they are slowly gaining fat?
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Jul 14, 2021 • 46min
Episode 95: Gut Health with Dasha Agoulnik
Episode 95: Gut Health with Dasha Agoulnik, RD Today we invited Dasha Agoulnik, RD and owner of Core Perform to the show and asked her 9 of our hardest questions pertaining to gut health. We covered methylation, SIFO vs SIBO, candida, thrush, and yeast infections, troubleshooting constipation, the Herxhiemer reaction and more! Dasha attended Tufts University in Massachusetts where she studied nutritional epidemiology before completing her dietitic internship at the Veterans Hospital in Tampa, FL. 🏆 THE EXCELLENCE CARTEL 🏆
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7/13/21
Dasha Pro Level Digestion
:22 Nicks last 7 Days
1:15 Jeff Su’s Last 7 days
3:40 Jason’s Last 7 Days
5:27 Jeff Blacks Last 7 Days
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10:00 Dasha’s last 7 days
10:45 What would you say you like most about the 1 on 1 calls vs just coaching?
13:05 How does methylation interact with gut health?
14:00 Certain methylation issues such as COMT and DAO affects gut health too right?
16:00 What test does someone do to understand their DNA, Methylation, etc?
19:20 SIFO explain what it is, and how does it differentiate against SIBO? How do you test it?
21:46 How does infections in women like thrush happen in women?
23:35 Why is gut health hard to restore/fix? Differences between fixing it with men and women?
25:30 Is there a difference in fixing an gen pop and competitors guts?
26:10 Do you think coaches are causing more gut issues than resolving them?
27:22 Why are we seeing this issue more? What do you think it is and how is it related to gut health?
28:30 We know Hashimotos and the gut go hand in hand, why are we seeing more Hashimotos, it seems, now more than ever. Awareness or something deeper?
29:00 Psoriasis, is it gut issues or could it be something else?
30:05 How do you know if it is heavy metals that is causing this issue?
30:20 How is it tested?
30:40 Explain why sucralose wreaks havoc on so many people’s digestive tracts
32:40 Do you have any supplements you use for leaky gut?
33:40 Strategic and or acceptable situations to employ a laxative during a gi fix - when, how, what kind, how long, etc.?
36:30 GERD hidden causes/drivers? - how often do you see impairment of the MMC? What is the MMC? How can people ensure good MMC function?
38:24 Herxheimer reaction - how to mitigate various die-off symptoms. Do symptoms vary based on what kind of infection is treated?
41:45 Is there anything daily you do supplement wise to help your gut health or overall fitness?
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Jul 7, 2021 • 1h 11min
Episode 94: Perspectives From Amateur to Pro
Episode 94: Perspectives From Amateur to Pro
Today we were joined by two bikini athletes - one an amateur and another a pro. Jeffrey Su's client Jessica Steurer recently competed for her first time after her original prep was derailed by covid. She came prepared today with some hard questions surrounding competing, the lifestyle, and the question of achieving excellence while keeping balance in physique sports. Nadia Jade, IFBB Bikini Pro, owner and head coach of Trained by BTS answers her questions. Nadia is currently 15 weeks out from her first pro show and offers her insight to Jessica.
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7/6/2021
TEC Amateur to Pro Mindset
:30 Jeff Su’s Hamstring training and last 7 days
3:00 Jason’s last 7 days
5:21 Jeff Blacks last 7 days.
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8:30 Shout out to our Sponsor AMINO PURE TEC 15 Discount Code
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10:30 Jess Introduction
13:00 Why is Nadia your role model?
14:15 Nadia – How does that make you feel to have that kind of influence?
16:40 Nadia- What are some tips and tricks for regaining balance after coming off a show?
21:07 Nadia- What are “Lean Gains”? and how do you achieve these without gaining too much weight?
23:09 Nadia- How do you truly learn to become “in-tune” with your body and your bodies response to hunger?
26:50 Nadia- Do you have a “go-to” cheat meal? How often do you do these? And have you ever done the IIFYM approach and how did it work out?
37:00 Nadia- How do you discuss with friends and family members the hard questions such as “why are you still eating this way now that your show is done?” etc.
41:25 Nadia-Have you ever had someone tell you they are worried about your health and thinking you may be doing “too much”?
47:25 Nadia- Best advice for training goals and keeping motivation high?
50:45 Nadia- How do measure both mental and physical aspects during an offseason?
56:30 Nadia- What characteristic would you say you had to rely on for the amateur out there wanting to go from where they are to pro?
Follow Nadia on IG at nadzzilla and on Youtube: Nadia Szymanozwicz nadia@coachedbybts.com

Jun 30, 2021 • 49min
Episode 93: Training Through Hormonal Dysfunction
Episode 93: Training Through Hormonal Dysfunction
Today we were joined by Chanel Collette, head coach and owner of Audacious Athletes to talk about MRV, of the maximum recoverable volume of training to stay out of metabolic adaptation or to recover from hormonal decline. Chanel walks us through key concepts such as loading and deloading, volume, and RPE. Quantifying her clients' training volume has allowed her to pinpoint individual MRV's, which provides her with measurable client output she can then pair against input. Join us on this interesting episode and find out how you can maximize your own recovery by training smarter not harder!
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6/29/2021
Chanel Collete - Training through Hormonal Disfunction
:30 Jasons last 7 Days
2:18 Jeff Su Last 7 Days
4:20 Nick’s Last 7 Days
5:20 Jeff Blacks Last 7 Days
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9:00 Chanel’s Last 7 Days
13:01 Can you give us a breakdown of your presentation?
22:06 How are you determining how you set up training for clients? What differences are there to consider in making these plans?
26:05 How are you calculating total volume?
30:05 How do you sell your client on tracking their volume?
35:05 Can you describe a De-load and loading phase?
38:11 How do you manage this loading with the nutrition side?
44:30 Do you have anything more to add on to what we have already talked about?
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Jun 23, 2021 • 57min
Episode 92: Dutch Testing with Austin Stout
Today we were joined by Austin Stout to take a walk through the DUTCH Test, a urine-based analysis of hormones and their metabolites. Austin explains what gets tested and what results might mean, for areas such as cortisol, estrogen, and androgens, and how coaches might leverage this analysis tool over traditional serum blood testing.
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6/22/2021
Dutch Test with Austin Stout
:20 Jeff Su’s Last 7 Days
1:30 Jasons Last 7 Days
3:12 Jeff Black’s Last 7 Days
4:04 1st Phorm Event Coming Up!!! www.theexcellencecartel.com August 27-28th
5:00 our Sponsor Amino Pure TEC15 Discount Code
6:20 TRM Partnership www.mathewheart.com
7:12 Austin Stouts Last 7 Days
10:24 What is the Dutch Test?
12:00 Can you explain, estrogen and cortisol metabolism and why would you want to measure those?
18:08 What about the androgen conversion?
20:05 Do you like saw palmetto for hyper-adrenalism?
20:45 Why would someone use this? What scenarios make you put this in play?
22:48 Do you have them use it and then go to life extension and get thyroid done separately since its not included in Dutch.
23:51 Is this primary a women benefit or is there a male benefit as well?
25:15 Is the Dutch still effective if a woman is on HRT, has amenorrhea etc.?
26:45 For women, do they still need to go during their luteal phase? Is timing important still?
28:40 What else do you look at on the Dutch test to see dopamine changes?
31:00 What are some things you do to support the methylation pathways?
32:16 If a female has some sort of cancer background, wouldn’t you want to test them with Dutch, and then put them on DIM to help them prevent cancer from happening to them?
35:00 What are the benefits to testing methylation? And is it necessary?
39:09 Should competitors use this right after a show? Or do blood work more?
42:20 What is an example you have had with a client you went from doing blood work but then had to switch to Dutch test?
48:30 If you have a client who has high am cortisol and hyper adrenalism, which one would you fix first?
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