

unbillable hours - a podcast about better professional services marketing
Ash, Flo
So, your job is to market a consultancy?
Excellent - then we have something just for you: unbillable hours, our podcast about better professional services marketing.
“unbillable hours” is all about selling business services through highly effective marketing. You know, the kind which gets clients through the door, competitors on edge, and the practice to respect you.
Oh, and: it’s free, and created by two folks who have nothing to sell (we have jobs, mind you).
Care to give it a try? Then listen in right away - or read a bit more about the project here:
https://unbillable-hrs.com/
Excellent - then we have something just for you: unbillable hours, our podcast about better professional services marketing.
“unbillable hours” is all about selling business services through highly effective marketing. You know, the kind which gets clients through the door, competitors on edge, and the practice to respect you.
Oh, and: it’s free, and created by two folks who have nothing to sell (we have jobs, mind you).
Care to give it a try? Then listen in right away - or read a bit more about the project here:
https://unbillable-hrs.com/
Episodes
Mentioned books

Jan 23, 2026 • 32min
C2E25 - From service to program - how to package consulting capabilities for greater impact
Sure, consulting services are great. But you know what's even better? Consulting programs! As in: Outcome-focused, time-boxed, and IP-supported bundles of services and capabilities. They're just so much clearer and therefore more helpful for everyone... plus they can really improve your delivery! And in this episode, Ash and Flo will give you the full rundown of why they're great and how you might start to design some.
Credits
Voices, production, etc. by Ash and Flo
Creative and design advice by @calmar.creativ
Into, outro voiceover for the unbillable hours podcast by @iamthedakota
Music also by @iamthedakota
Shownotes
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Jan 16, 2026 • 25min
C2E23 - When and how to introduce your firm's services (without losing the plot)
Discover why leading with your services can do more harm than good. The hosts reveal the importance of discussing client problems and outcomes first. They argue that presenting services too early commoditizes consulting. Learn how to frame services within a client's journey and map them to specific milestones. The discussion includes tips on aligning service language with your value proposition. Ultimately, it’s about guiding clients towards solutions, not listing offerings upfront!

Jan 12, 2026 • 48min
C2E23 - Consulting's 2025 - a year in review with Jeff McKay
So how, exactly, did things go in 2025? And what, exactly, did we learn? We brought on advisor to the consulting industry, founder of Prudent Pedal and all-around sector strategist, Jeff McKay, to discuss his insights into where we've been, we're we're headed, and, sure: what to make of "AI" and other new pressures resetting consulting.
Listen to it here!
Episode guest
Jeff McKay, founder, Prudent Pedal
Credits
Voices, production, etc. by Ash and Flo
Creative and design advice by @calmar.creativ
Into, outro voiceover for the unbillable hours podcast by @iamthedakota
Music also by @iamthedakota
Shownotes:
Check out Jeff's blog about designing the AI era professional services org here

Dec 5, 2025 • 33min
C2E22 - Consultancy positioning in the AI era
Consulting is evolving, and AI isn't killing it—it's reshaping perceptions! Discover how firms can adapt to clients' declining payment willingness by embracing AI, but beware of the risk of 'good enough' outputs. Ash and Flo highlight the necessity for mid-level 'AI wranglers' and argue that boutiques can thrive by leveraging deep expertise alongside AI. As the industry shifts, specialization is key, and training domain experts is essential for success. Stay ahead by refining propositions and focusing on quality in deliverables!

Nov 21, 2025 • 28min
C2E21 - Your consulting proposition's second job: Building client self-confidence
THE PODCAST IS BACK! (Sorry for yelling...) And this time, we’re looking at the other side of the trust equation: not just whether clients trust you, but whether they trust themselves—to make the right decision, rally internal support, and deliver results. Listen in how a well-crafted consulting proposition can help them build this self-confidence... and, therefore, hire you ;)
Credits
Voices, production, etc. by Ash and Flo
Creative and design advice by @calmar.creativ
Into, outro voiceover for the unbillable hours podcast by @iamthedakota
Music also by @iamthedakota
Shownotes
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10 snips
Sep 19, 2025 • 39min
C2E20 - Frameworks That Work: Designing Your Consulting IP with Charlotte Crowther
In this engaging discussion, Charlotte Crowther, founder of SignatureFramework.com and a methodology expert, shares her insights on crafting effective signature frameworks that elevate consulting practices. She introduces her three-step approach—codify, visualize, leverage—that helps firms stand out. Charlotte's layered design process addresses common pitfalls and highlights the importance of validation and feedback for successful rollout. Learn how to transform your frameworks from mere slides into powerful systems that drive results!

Sep 12, 2025 • 36min
C2E19 *Replay* Making rain (differently)
Ever heard of "Rainmakers" - the bizdev champions of the services world? HBR published a piece saying their game is changing. Ash and Flo dove in to figure out how, exactly (spoiler: it's related to marketing!)
Voices, production, etc. by Ash and Flo.
Creative and design advice by @calmar.creativ
Into, outro voiceover by @iamthedakota
Music also by @iamthedakota
Please find the shownotes to this episode at unbillable-hrs.com.

Sep 5, 2025 • 22min
C2E18 - From proposition to thought leadership: How to plan consultancy content
We're back - and start our post-summer show with a deep dive into answers to the dreaded question "What should our consultancy post about?" (or some such): Tune in to hear Flo discuss the best philosophy for thought leadership planning and how to derive content from your value proposition. Enjoy!
Credits
Voices, production, etc. by Ash and Flo
Creative and design advice by @calmar.creativ
Into, outro voiceover for the unbillable hours podcast by @iamthedakota
Music also by @iamthedakota
Shownotes
Check out the upcoming Deltek Webinar feat. Flo here

Jun 27, 2025 • 20min
C2E17 - Everyone Sells: How to build your firm's holistic sales capability
You’ve nailed your value proposition—now what? In this episode, we show how consultancies can embed business development capabilities across the whole firm, turning scattered effort into a coordinated go-to-market machine.
Credits
Voices, production, etc. by Ash and Flo
Creative and design advice by @calmar.creativ
Into, outro voiceover for the unbillable hours podcast by @iamthedakota
Music also by @iamthedakota
Shownotes
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Jun 20, 2025 • 26min
C2E16 - Why "cold outbound sales" don't work in consulting (and what to reach out instead)
There, we'll say it: "Cold outreach selling" - whether by email, phone, or LinkedIn - doesn't really work in consulting (with a few exceptions perhaps confirming this rule). So... what can you do instead? Ash and Flo share some insights and tips you might want to listen to before sinking another 20k into an outreach effort with no ROI...
Credits
Voices, production, etc. by Ash and Flo
Creative and design advice by @calmar.creativ
Into, outro voiceover for the unbillable hours podcast by @iamthedakota
Music also by @iamthedakota
Shownotes
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