Shameless Popery

In this conversation, Gavin Ortlund, a pastor and theologian known for his insights on early church structures, engages with Joe Heschmeyer over the Didache and its implications for the papacy. They dissect whether early Christian evidence supports or refutes papal claims. Gavin critiques the treatment of quotations from the Didache, while Joe emphasizes the contested nature of its interpretations. The duo explores scholarly debates on church hierarchy and how current research challenges previous models, leaving the topic intriguingly ambiguous.

The discussion unveils the humorous ironies surrounding Reformation Day celebrations. It points out the paradox of honoring Calvin with images, despite his aversion to them. Joe critiques the 95 Theses for endorsing ideas many Protestants now reject. He argues that commemorating schism merely trades one problem for another, and highlights the hypocrisy in evangelical narratives about Halloween. The episode concludes with a thought-provoking plea against celebrating Reformation Day, suggesting it symbolizes division rather than unity.

In a spirited discussion, a Catholic apologist responds to critiques from Orthodox priest Father Moses McPherson. He delves into the differences in salvation beliefs, defending Catholic theology by referencing sacred texts and mystics. The conversation critiques the notion that Catholicism is cult-like while highlighting exclusivity in Orthodoxy. Joe addresses sensitive issues like the sexual abuse scandals prevalent in all denominations. He also tackles allegations of relativism and discusses the ongoing role of papal authority in church governance.

A significant shift toward orthodoxy among younger priests marks a remarkable change in the Catholic landscape. Despite their theological conservatism, many are experiencing burnout due to overwhelming workloads and rising loneliness. Joe discusses the decline of very liberal priests and how youthful priorities now skew toward Eucharistic devotion and traditional practices like the Latin Mass. He emphasizes the need for community support to alleviate the pressures on these young leaders, urging listeners to engage with and pray for their priests.

Joe Heschmeyer dives into a spirited rebuttal of Gavin Ortlund's claim that the papacy lacks divine origin. He dissects the early church's leadership, challenging the notion that Rome had no singular bishop. Joe highlights early texts like the Didache and Ignatius of Antioch to assert multiple church roles. He explores the historical continuity of bishops in Rome, referencing Irenaeus and the Shepherd of Hermas. The conversation raises intriguing questions about divine church structures versus alternatives, leaving listeners contemplating the roots of church governance.

Dive into a thoughtful exploration of Pope Leo’s apostolic exhortation, Dilexi Te, as it emphasizes holiness and care for the poor. Discover insights from Church Fathers like Chrysostom and Augustine on how our treatment of the needy reflects our faith. Learn how Eucharist and almsgiving intertwine, and why society must engage with these issues publicly. The message encourages a blend of spiritual and material support for the poor, highlighting that genuine charity is both a personal responsibility and a communal duty.

The discussion dives into Pope Leo's recent exhortation, Dilexi Te, emphasizing the importance of Christian love for the poor. Joe Heschmeyer argues against labeling the pope politically, suggesting it distorts the true gospel message. He highlights Pope Leo’s mission of unity and his refusal to engage in partisan politics. Environmental stewardship is explored, particularly through the controversy of blessing a block of ice, tying it to moral responsibility. The talk reinforces that caring for the marginalized is central to Christian teaching.

The recent appointment of Dame Sarah Mullally as the first female Archbishop of Canterbury has sparked a potential crisis in the Anglican Communion. Joe dives into the global reactions, especially Nigeria's resistance, and the implications for GAFCON's leadership. He explores the evolution and fractures within Anglicanism over issues like women's ordination and sexual morality. As schism looms, Joe raises critical questions about Anglican identity—doctrinal, historical, and institutional—offering paths for Anglicans facing uncertainty.

Joe tackles 3 of the supposed “contradictions” addressed by Redeemed Zoomer in his recent video. Transcript: Joe: Welcome back to Shameless Popery. I’m Joe Heschmeyer, and as many of you may already know, Redeemed Zoomer recently released a video where he laid out 14 examples of what he believed were Catholic contradictions. Four of them were claims that he made where the Catholic church he said had contradicted itself and infallible declarations. Now, Trent Horn has already done a fantastic reply looking at all 14 of those, but it’s really hard to do justice to 14 larg...

Joe shares his surprising epiphany about Mary's Immaculate Conception, acknowledging that Trent Horn's insights reshaped his understanding. They delve into Marian typology, comparing Mary to the Ark of the Covenant. The discussion highlights how Mary's sinlessness allowed her to give an uncoerced 'yes' to God. Joe examines the importance of free will and contrasts Mary's calm acceptance of divine will with biblical characters' fear. Listeners are treated to thoughtful reflections and a hint of humor as the episode wraps up.