Shameless Popery #233 Christ’s Virgin Birth Isn’t a Pagan Invention
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Dec 11, 2025 The discussion dives into the claim that Jesus's virgin birth is a pagan copycat story. Joe critically examines the notion that common similarities reflect earlier myths. He debunks connections to Mithras, Horus, Krishna, Attis, and Dionysus, emphasizing that these narratives don't support the virgin-birth notion. Instead, he traces the origins back to Hebrew scriptures like Isaiah and Genesis, arguing for a unique Christian perspective. The podcast serves to clear misconceptions and highlight the significance of the virgin birth.
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Ask For Ancient Sources
- Ask for primary ancient sources when someone claims pagan parallels to Christian stories.
- Demand evidence before accepting claims about Mithras or other gods being virgin-born.
Mithraism Is Contemporary, Not Antecedent
- Mithraism lacks literary sources and spread in the Roman Empire around the same time as Christianity.
- Claims that Mithras was born on December 25th or of a virgin have no solid textual basis.
Horus Claims Are Fabricated
- Popular claims that Horus was virgin-born and born December 25th are fabrications by amateur sources.
- Scholarly Egyptian texts show Isis was not a virgin and the Horus story differs dramatically from the Christmas narrative.




