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Janet Allison, Jennifer LW Fink
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Apr 16, 2020 • 31min
COVID-19 Listener Q and A
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COVID-19 (the disease caused by the novel coronavirus) has changed everything.
Our daily lives now look nothing like we imagined at the beginning of the year. We're hunkered down in our homes, and wondering how to get toilet paper and flour -- basics we once took for granted. Some of us are working from home and trying to figure out how the $*#( to juggle full-time work with with full-time family. Others have to go to work in spite of the virus, often fearing for their safety. Many have lost work, and our kids have lost the rhythm and routines associated with school.
Given the challenges, we thought now might be a good time for another Listener Q & A. You asked:
How do we help our boys step up to the self-motivation and self-discipline necessary to do online school?
Jen says, "Our kids likely are not going to be better with online learning, in the middle of a pandemic, than they were going before. If your son struggled with self-discipline,organization and motivation before, it's not going to be better now. It will probably be worse."
Fighting with or badgering your son isn't likely to help. Instead, reorient your expectations: It's OK (for all of us!) to not be super motivated at the moment. Then, communicate with your son's teachers.
Parents of high schoolers asked us how to motivate boys to take action toward their futures. Christine said:
My son is a junior and has huge aspirations for Air Force Academy/fighter pilot, but is REALLY struggling with the big self motivation/dedication required to take the steps for that process.
We encourage a pause and some deep breaths. We're all having trouble planning for the future right now, as none of us know what the future holds.
Anger & irritability are common right now. You asked:
Why is every single thing I say so annoying to my son?
and
What do we do with angry boys?
Jen reminds us that "many people -- especially boys -- are reacting with anger because they haven't learned to identify fear."
In this episode, Janet & Jen discuss:
Managing the many demands on our time (work, school, family, cooking, disinfecting...!)
Why it's okay to NOT do all the assignments school is sending home
Using nature and humor to relieve stress
Learning from life
Navigating online schooling
Planning for the future when the future is uncertain
Getting comfortable with the unknown
Managing fear and discomfort
Why you should share your feelings with your son
The importance of physical activity (to release energy and anger)
Teaching boys to pay attention to their bodies and minds
Vaping & drinking -- some teens may be experiencing withdrawal
When to reach out for professional support
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
Coping with Coronavirus - ON BOYS episode
Managing Emotions -- ON BOYS episode featuring Ellen Dodge's advice on dealing with feelings during the coronavirus crisis
Anger & Boys -- ON BOYS episode 104
Decoding Boys with Dr. Cara Natterson -- ON BOYS episode mentioned at 24:40
Mental Health & COVID-19: Information and Resources -- includes links to financial assistance, tools to cope with anxiety and MULTIPLE hotlines, text lines & online supports
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Apr 9, 2020 • 44min
Decoding Boys with Dr. Cara Natterson
Wouldn't it be great if boys came with a magic decoder ring to help you decode their mysteries and moods?
Dr. Cara Natterson's book, Decoding Boys: New Science Behind the Subtle Art of Raising Sons, is the next best thing. If you have boys, you'll want to add this one to your bookshelf (or check it out from your library) right now -- and you'll definitely want to read it before your son hits puberty. Which may come a lot sooner than you expected.
According to Dr. Natterson -- a pediatrician, mom of two and author of Guy Stuff: The Body Book for Boys -- the first changes of puberty can begin as early as age 9. But because those early changes are largely invisible to parents' eyes, we may misunderstand our boys' mood swings and behavior. And because our culture has long ignored male puberty, many of us simply allow our boys to self-isolate behind closed doors, instead of talking to them about the changes they're experiencing.
That's a mistake, Dr. Natterson says:
Not talking to your son about his evolving physical, emotional and social self is the biggest parent trap of them all.
Kids, she's learned, are hungry for information. "They will take good information and run with it," Dr. Natterson says. "If we just tell them no and don't give them the why, they don't listen."
But while girls have been encouraged to share their voices, opinions and experiences in recent years, boys...haven't. Historically, "neither boys nor their parents nor the world around them" has expressed a willingness to talk frankly about erections, voice changes and body image, Dr. Natterson says. She argues that it's time for parents to push past their discomfort and engage boys in conversation.
"There isn't one perfect way to do this," she says. "My best advice is, it's not one conversation; it's thousands. It's many, many conversations over many years, so you have lots of opportunities to try it many different ways."
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Cara discuss:
Why it's OK to let your teen boys sleep late
What the coronavirus crisis and shutdowns are teaching us about kids' physical and emotional needs
The difference between making kids do something vs. educating them
Why boys go quiet around puberty
Getting boys to talk
Late-blooming boys
Brain development during adolescence (a.k.a, why boys can be so smart and so dumb, at the same time!)
Why boys take more risks when surrounded by friends
Boys, body image & eating disorders
How to tell if your son's fixation on fitness is healthy or harmful
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
Decoding Boys: New Science Behind the Subtle Art of Raising Sons -- Cara's book
worryproofmd.com -- Dr. Natterson's online home; includes a link to her newsletter
Guy Stuff: The Body Book for Boys -- one of Cara's puberty book for boys
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Apr 2, 2020 • 36min
Managing Emotions
Managing emotions -- our boys, & our own -- is challenging in the best of times.
This, most definitely is not the best of times. We're cooped up in our houses with kids who miss their friends and activities. With boys who no longer have soccer or baseball practice to help them burn off some energy. In the midst of a global pandemic that's upended all of our routines. While we ourselves are experiencing great emotional turmoil.
We can't just simply brush our emotions to the side, or expect our children to function like normal.If we're to survive this pandemic with our sanity intact, we need some tools for managing emotions.
Ellen Dodge is a speech-language pathologist and boy advocate who has spend the last 3 decades helping children understand and express emotions. She says "this is a time for us to steady our ships and learn how to communicate feelings, to make things a little bit better."
Not sure how to do that? Ellen shares some some super useful tips:
Stop talking so much. Boys can easily become overwhelmed by words. Stop asking what, where, when, why so much. Try quiet instead. Make space for them to speak.
Try "tell me the story." When you see your guys doing something -- positive or negative -- ask them to tell you the story behind their actions. If you see a feeling on your son's face, ask him to tell you the story behind the feeling.
Make feelings concrete. Boys tend to be hands-on learners; they do best when they can touch, feel and manipulate whatever it is they're learning about. You can use plush toys (like Kimochis) to help boys name and identify emotions, or you can do something silly (but effective) like write "feeling words" (happy, scared, frustrated) on a white board and allow your son to "shoot" his feelings with a Nerf gun.
Normalize feelings. Talk about them. Let your kids know that all people (even parents!) have feelings and that we all make mistakes as we figure out how to manage them. Explicitly say, "We all get re-dos." Become a "second-chance family."
Set expectations: "You can be made, but you can't be mean." Brainstorm acceptable ways to express anger & frustration.
Stop & reset. When your kid is exhibiting behaviors you don't like, stop for a minute and imagine that he's not your kid. This mental exercise can allow you to see that situation more clearly and stop catastrophizing. (Yes, your 2-yr-old might be biting now, but he most likely will not be biting people at 16, no matter what you do in the next moment.) Use the 5-5-5 tool: Ask yourself: Will this person be doing this behavior in the next 5 minutes? 5 weeks? 5 years?
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Ellen discuss:
Big feelings in small spaces
Why boys may struggle emotionally when confined to home
How to stop over-reacting to your son's feelings
Techniques you can use to help boys manage their emotions
How physical activity helps boys process emotions
Why should should focus on connection, not communication
Why it's OK to admit that you don't know what you're doing
How social distancing might give our kids the chance to rediscover themselves
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
Kimochis -- toys, tools and free resources to help children manage their emotions
The Parenting Partner -- includes the link to Ellen's Master Class
The Parenting Partner on YouTube -- Ellen's "commercials"
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Mar 26, 2020 • 33min
Just Don’t be an Asshole (with Kara Kinney Cartwright)
Kara Kinney Cartwright has a message for teenage boys & young men: just don't be an asshole.
The mom of two grown sons, Kara began writing Just Don't Be an Asshole: A Surprisingly Necessary Guide to Being a Good Guy as her sons were preparing to head out into the world. The project was inspired, in part, by her anxiety (have I taught them everything they need to know?) and, in part, by cultural changes. Thanks to the #MeToo movement and a slew of highly publicized stories of powerful men behaving badly, parents everywhere are wondering how to raise boys who won't be jerks. Or assholes.
Kara's book is designed "to provide young men with a framework for how to treat others -- and themselves -- with respect and dignity." She hopes the book will help parents and teens at a critical (and challenging) juncture in life, noting that teens are less likely to listen to their parents during adolescence, even as the consequences of bad decisions loom ever larger.
The best part? Because she's a mom of boys, Kara's advice is grounded in humor and respect. She knows that asshole-y behavior is incredibly common and normal during the teen years, and doesn't shame boys. Instead, she shows them how a mature man behaves.
As she writes in the book,
Acting like an asshole doesn't mean you're a bad person. It doesn't even necessarily mean you're an asshole. What it means is that you don't understand how your man-sized presence is affecting other people in the moment and how THAT is going to affect YOU in the long run."
Note: We recorded this episode before coronavirus shutdowns were common across the United States. For up-to-date information regarding coronavirus & COVID-19, visit cdc.gov and who.int.
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Kara discuss:
What her sons think about her book
"Normal" teenage development
Important life lessons to teach your son (what to do if you get in a car accident, how to act on a job interview, etc.)
Why boys are often assholes to their families
How to help you boys recognize that other people are human beings
Boys, sarcasm and "hilarious" sexist and racist comments
Talking to teen boys about coronavirus
Helping boys understand the consequences of their decisions
Why you must give boys specific suggestions and language to use
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
Just Don't Be an Asshole: A Surprisingly Necessary Guide to Being a Good Guy -- Kara's book
Boys & Sex with Peggy Orenstein -- our conversation w Peggy about her book, Boys & Sex (mentioned at 19:11)
The Role of Memes in Teen Culture -- NYT article by Jen (mentioned at 21:54)
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Mar 19, 2020 • 38min
Raising Boys in an Era of Girl Power (Listener Q & A)
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Raising boys brings up all kinds of questions.
No matter how long you've been parenting, educating or working with boys, you're bound to stumble into a situation that you don't quite know how to handle -- on a weekly basis. At least.
In this listener Q & A, we tackle some evergreen questions. Jen also tells you about a time she lied to her parents. :)
Matt asks:
How do you help boys find their own, positive path in an increasingly girl-dominated environment? Strong, confident, high-achieving girls are a good thing — but in my son’s high school they tend to be far more involved overall, from my observations. The boys just shrink from it all. How do we help them work within this reality to carve their own path?
Penny wonders what to do if...
a teacher isn't listening and empathetic. My son flourished when he felt understood and liked by his teachers. It makes sense. Who wants to spend all day every day with a person who you think doesn't understand you, like you, or want you there? When the "I like YOU" dynamic is there, the behavior and academics naturally improve.
Jacquie asks:
What is within the range of normal when it comes to genital exploration, more so on others, for kids 8 and under.
Lauren asks:
Why do toddlers hit and, more importantly, how do you deal with it? My son is 3 and recently started hitting and kicking and throwing things during tantrums. I feel stuck. I dont want to spank. When I walk away he gets frantic. When I try to hug him he pushes me away. I end up just sitting there with him hitting me repeating over and over "Hitting isn't nice, we don't hit, stop hitting". I want to understand what's happening and what I should do.
What questions do YOU have about raising boys?
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
All About E-Sports -- ON BOYS episode mentioned at 6:39
Here's How to Motivate Teen Boys: Encourage Them to Take Risks -- Your Teen article by Jen, that touches on ways parents can support boys' interests and build motivation
Emails & Phone Calls from Teachers -- ON BOYS episode (includes the story of Sam & his art teacher, mentioned at 14:51)
Helping Teachers Understand Boys -- ON BOYS episode
Talk to Boys About Sex with Amy Lang -- ON BOYS episode mentioned at 27:52
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Mar 17, 2020 • 27min
Coping With Coronavirus
How are you coping with coronavirus?
Our lives have undergone some pretty massive disruptions over the past few weeks, and it looks like more changes may be on the horizon. We'll all learning new ways of connecting and communicating -- and we're all a bit scared and overwhelmed.
That's why we recorded & released this special bonus episode. It's packed full of practical advice and inspiration.
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
ZOOM Video Conferencing - We use ZOOM to record our podcast. You can use it to connect with your friends and loved ones too. It's FREE for calls under 40 minutes. Use our affiliate link to sign up today.
http://boysalive.as.me -- Sign up for a Breakthrough Session with Janet (she's currently waiving the fee for this call.)Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Mar 12, 2020 • 33min
Happy SECOND Anniversary to ON BOYS
Two years.
More than 100 episodes covering important topics such as boys & sex, masculinity, ADHD, mental health, honesty & so much more.
But on our SECOND anniversary, we're most grateful for the relationships we've created. We're no longer simply co-hosts or colleagues; we're friends. We enjoy talking to one another as much as (we hope) you enjoy listening to us.
We're also grateful for the professional connections we've made as a result of this podcast. This year alone, we spoke with Steve Biddulph, Peggy Orenstein, Phyllis Fagell, Dr. Vanessa LaPointe, Michael C. Reichert & dozens of other on-the-ground boy advocates. It may seem, sometimes, that boys are an after thought in today's world, but we've learned that there a lot of smart, caring, committed people who care deeply about boys and their future.
We're thankful for YOU, our listeners. You inspire and motivate us. In fact, we'd like to get to know you better, so we can better meet your needs. Will you please take a few minutes to complete our first-ever Listener Survey? CLICK HERE!
In this episode, Jen & Janet discuss:
The importance of humor in raising boys
How parenting keeps us grounded
ON BOYS' origin story
How Jen & Janet learned so much about boys
Why one-size-fits-all answers don't work
Our individual quirks
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Click here: ON BOYS Listener Survey -- we want to know you better, so we can serve up the information you need!
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
The Role of Memes in Teen Culture -- Jen's New York Times article, mentioned at 4:26
Introducing Co-Hosts Janet & Jen -- our very first ON BOYS episode, mentioned at 9:27
Sex, Teens & Everything in Between, by Shafia Zaloom -- book recommended by Peggy Orenstein during our Boys & Sex conversation, mentioned at 25:25
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Mar 5, 2020 • 38min
Twice Exceptional Boys (w Ramsey Hootman)
Ramsey Hootman, an insightful author and mother of a twice exceptional boy known as B-Bot, shares her journey of parenting a gifted child with unique learning challenges. She discusses the complexities of raising B-Bot, highlighting how his ADHD and auditory processing disorder shape his educational experience. Hootman reflects on the initial reluctance to diagnose, revealing how understanding his needs has been essential for his development. Listeners gain valuable insights into navigating social interactions and the crucial support of community resources.

Feb 27, 2020 • 34min
Understanding Male Development: Baby Boys & Toddlers
Baby boys' testosterone levels are nearly the same as teenage boys'.
But for the first few weeks after conception, well, there's no discernible difference between a male embryo and a female embryo. The testosterone surge that occurs in the 2nd and 3rd trimesters of pregnancy is responsible for the cascade of developmental changes that what differentiates a boy baby from a girl baby, and from then on, "testosterone drive the bus," Janet says.
Photo by roxie_jc via Flickr
Understanding male development will help you understand your boys and what they need. It may help you relax and enjoy your child as well.
"When parents understand male development and what is developmentally appropriate, they feel less anxious if their son can't do the same things as their neighbor's daughter," Jen says.
Join us as we discuss the development and growth of baby boys, toddlers and preschoolers.
In this episode, Jen & Janet discuss:
Prenatal development of baby boys
How testosterone influences the development of male infants
Male vulnerability to health problems
How lack of father involvement affects boys
Nature vs. nurture
Bonding with baby boys
Why boys may "take longer" to hit developmental milestones
What to look for in a daycare, preschool and elementary school setting
Nature & forest preschools
The link between movement and learning
Why we can't expect our little ones to live on our adult timeline
Using empathy when kids struggle with transitions
How screen time affects language development
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
Why Men Die Younger Than Women: The "Guys Are Fragile" Thesis -- NPR story
Study Finds Moms Talk More to Babies, Especially Baby Girls
Nature Preschools
American Forest Kindergarten Association (We love this quote from their founder, Erin Kenny: "Children cannot bounce off the walls if we take the walls away.")
Toddlers' Screen Time Linked to Slower Speech Development, Study Finds - PBS story
Story Time, Not Screen Time: Why E-Books Aren't Better for Toddlers
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Feb 13, 2020 • 40min
Boys and Sex with Peggy Orenstein
Talking about boys and sex can be uncomfortable. But if want our boys (and girls and non-binary children) to have healthy, safe, fulfilling sexual relationships, it's essential.
And there's the hitch, right? A lot of us don't even want to think about our children having sexual relationships -- and when we do talk to our kids about sex, it's typically because we don't want them to become pregnant, we don't want them to get a disease, and we don't them to be hurt or arrested. Rarely is our focus on helping our children develop the skills and knowledge they'll need to engage in healthy, safe and fulfilling sexual relationships.
That's a mistake, says Peggy Orenstein, author Boys & Sex: Young Men on Hookups, Love, Porn, Consent, and Navigating the New Masculinity. When we avoid these conversations, our children get their sexual education elsewhere -- often, from porn.
Contrary to her expectations when she began reporting the book, Peggy found that boys were "insightful narrators" of their lives and experiences. Boys are acutely aware of the issues that affect them, of the "rules" that govern their behavior and social success and of society's evolving definition of masculinity.
The #MeToo movement has inspired a lot of conversation about gender and sexual violence, and given us all the opportunity to rethink the spoken and unspoken messages our society sends boys. "It's not just a time to reduce sexual violence," Peggy says. "It's a crack in the edifice where we can engage boys in a more positive way about sex, intimacy, masculinity and gender dynamics."
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Peggy discuss:
Common preconceptions about boys
How the #MeToo movement has created openings for conversation with our boys
Hookup culture
The current status of sex ed in school (only 10 states require that their sex education programs must be medically-accurate!)
Boys' skewed perceptions of bodies and sex
Why boys say "hilarious" all the time
Preparing boys to speak out when they see bad behavior -- & why they might not, in spite of their best intentions
How rigid gender norms harm boys
Broadening boys' emotional vocabulary
Dads as the "gender police"
Supporting fathers as they connect and communicate with their sons
The role of vulnerability in human relationships
How drinking -- and socialization -- warp boys' assumptions about girls' activity and intentions
The difference between a "bad hookup" and sexual assault
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Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
Boys & Sex: Young Men on Hookups, Love, Porn, Consent, and Navigating the New Masculinity -- Peggy's book
peggyorenstein.com -- Peggy's website; includes a list of resources to help you talk to your kids about sex
Will We Ever Figure Out How to Talk to Boys About Sex? -- New York Times article by Peggy
"Boys & Sex" Reveals that Young Men Feel "Cut Off From Their Hearts" -- Peggy discussing her book on Fresh Air
The Fine Line Between a Bad Date and Sexual Assault: 2 Views on Aziz Ansari -- NPR story about the incident Peggy mentions at 25:23
Teaching Boys Social Skills -- ON BOYS episode featuring Ryan Wexelblatt, the ADHD expert mentioned at 37:02
Sex, Teens, and Everything in Between: The New and Necessary Conversations Today's Teenagers Need to Have About Consent, Sexual Harassment, Healthy Relationships, Love and More, by Shafia Zaloom -- book Peggy calls "absolutely a foundational text for parents & teenagers"
Talk to Boys About Sex with Amy Lang -- ON BOYS episode 110
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