

ON BOYS Podcast
Janet Allison, Jennifer LW Fink
Real Talk about Parenting, Teaching, and Reaching Tomorrow’s Men
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Aug 19, 2021 • 42min
Amy Lang on How to Keep Boys Safe Online
Amy Lang is our go-to sex ed expert.
She's a mom of a son and she's not afraid to talk frankly about sex, pornography, relationships and consent.
Our January 2021 conversation with Amy -- all about how keep boys safe online -- was so enlightening and informative that we've decided to run it again. Some gems:
“All the research shows that parents are the most important influence when it comes to sexual decision-making. If we don’t get in the door early, our impact is less. It’s really important to establish yourself as their go-to person.”
and
“I think it’s way more important to be sexually savvy and to understand healthy relationships than to score a 9000 on the PSAT.”
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Amy discuss:
Why you need to talk to your boys about sex a lot sooner than you think
How boys accidently encounter porn
Setting the stage to talk about sex
Does talking to boys about porn encourage them to seek it out?
Establishing family guidelines re internet usage
The difference between parental controls and monitoring (and how to use each)
How porn affects boys
Preparing boys for porn exposure
Helping boys resist peer pressure to look at porn
Keeping boys safe online
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
Talk to Boys about Sex (w Amy Lang) – ON BOYS episode
http://birdsandbeesandkids.com/ — Amy’s website
The Birds & Bees Solution Center for Parents — use coupon code ONBOYS to save 15%
Just Say This! – Amy’s podcast
Birds + Bees + YOUR Kids: A Guide to Sharing Your Beliefs about Sexuality, Love and Relationships, by Amy Lang
BREAKTHROUGH session w JanetAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Aug 12, 2021 • 43min
Meghan Leahy on Parenting Outside the Lines
Meghan Leahy is one of our favorite parenting experts.
Her advice is grounded in experience (she's got 3 kids and is a parenting columnist for the Washington Post), understanding (again: she's got 3 kids!), and compassion (like the rest of us, she's exhausted and overwhelmed). She's honest, engaging and an absolute hoot.
Her latest book, Parenting Outside the Lines: Forget the Rules, Tap Into Your Wisdom and Connect with Your Child, was published just over a year ago -- so we thought this would be a good time to re-visit our conversation with her, which we originally released in September 2020. (You know, just as most of us were freaking out over the beginning of a very unconventional school year.)
Some gems:
“I haven’t yet found a parent who’s really changed their parenting based on ‘studies say,' I’ve never told a parent, ‘Well, studies say if you don’t yell, your kid will be happier,’ and had the parent say, ‘oh my god, I didn’t know that! Now I’ll stop yelling.'”
and
“Strategies are neither here nor there. One may work; one may not. But if the underpinning of compassionate, boundaried connection isn’t there, it doesn’t matter.”
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Meghan Leahy discuss:
The importance of connection
Learning to trust yourself
How modern culture has made parenting more difficult
Why it’s OK to not know what to do
What to do when your son doesn’t want to do an activity he once loved
Parenting during the pandemic
The link between kindness and resilience
Screen time (and why you need to look at your screen habits before tackling your kids’ screen time)
How to enjoy parenting
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
Parenting Outside the Lines: Forget the Rules, Tap Into Your Wisdom and Connect with Your Child — Meghan’s book
Meghan’s Washington Post On Parenting columns
mlparentcoach.com — Meghan’s website
How to Raise a Boy with Michael C. Reichert — ON BOYS episode mentioned at 07:11
The Neufield Institute — courses, events and resources from Gordon Neufield, PhD (mentioned at 8:47)
Simplicity Parenting: Using the Extraordinary Power of Less to Raise Calmer, Happier and More Secure Kids, by Kim John Payne and Kim Ross — book mentioned at 16:07
My Suddenly Sedentary Teen Seems Stuck. How Much Should I Push Him to Move? — Meghan’s column about the soccer player (mentioned at 17:24)
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Aug 5, 2021 • 39min
You Can Thrive with Chronic Illness and Special Needs
Yes, you can thrive with chronic illness and special needs.
In fact, you can create a Very Happy Story no matter what challenges you're dealing with on the home front.
Liza Blas, a mom of two, created the Very Happy Stories podcast and blog after realizing that her overwhelm was overwhelming her family. She also realized that not talking about her family's challenges -- ADHD, depression, chronic illness, anxiety, suicidal ideation -- was not helpful.
"As a mom, you have a tendency to put up a protective barrier and isolate," Blas says, often due to shame, embarrassment and fear of judgment. "But when you share your story, even with just one person, you're helping other people bring down walls. You provide validation and community. Nothing can connect you with another person better than storytelling."
She urges overwhelmed parents to practice self-care, which she describes as essential to gaining clarity. "You can't tap into your intuition when you've got your head in the sand," Liza says. "Trusting your gut requires you to be in the present moment."
Also important: breaks! Navigating the unknown -- an uncertain diagnosis or treatment plan or worldwide pandemic -- requires mental endurance. You simply cannot sustain focus, concentration and patience indefinitely. Take breaks, and then jump back in.
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Liza discuss:
The power of storytelling to create connections and decreases stress
Parenting kids with special needs, including ADHD, depression, anxiety, sensory processing disorder and chronic illness
Discovering/realizing your child has special needs
Moving past shame, fear & denial
Self-care to gain clarity
Adapting your parenting playbook to your child
Finding your happiness
Managing grief
Developing mental endurance
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
Very Happy Stories -- Liza's podcast & website
Let's Talk about Our Boys: Are Your Raising a Disrupter? -- Very Happy Stories episode featuring Janet & Jen
Boy Talk Blueprint — Janet’s guide to better conversations w your son!
ADHD with Ryan Wexelblatt the ADHD Dude -- ON BOYS episode
Sensory Processing Disorder with Nancy Peske -- ON BOYS episode
Depression and Anxiety in Boys -- ON BOYS episodeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jul 29, 2021 • 44min
Troubled Boys (w Kenneth R. Rosen)
What do you with troubled boys?
With boys who are failing school, sneaking off, and using substances? Boys who have resisted disciplinary efforts and redirection?
That's the question at the heart of Kenneth R. Rosen's latest book, Troubled: The Failed Promise of America's Behavioral Treatment Programs. There are no easy answers to that question but Ken's book makes one thing abundantly clear: sending your son away to a camp or program for troubled children probably won't help. In fact, sending troubled boys away may make things worse.
"I remember feeling so different, so lost, and so tossed aside by all the people that were supposed to mentor me and guide me through a very difficult time," Ken says, a former "troubled teen" who spent years in residential treatment programs.
By the time a boy's behavior is so disruptive that his parents and others are considering "sending him away," the family unit has likely been "broken for many, many years," says Ken. Lack of communication and lack of trust in parents and family are often the root causes that drive children toward alcohol, drugs and disruptive behavior.
Kids who aren't thriving (or, frankly, even meeting basic expectations) in traditional educational environments may require a different approach -- but "different" doesn't have to mean boarding school or wilderness camp. Meeting kids' needs within their communities, while helping them (re)connect with family can be life-changing.
That kind of support, however, is rarely available. More available are educational consultants who funnel families toward (pricey) residential treatment centers, "camps," and "spas" that are presented as a "one-stop fix" for troubled children. That, Ken says, should be parents' first warning sign, as complex problems cannot be solved with a single solution.
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Ken discuss:
How gender stereotypes can negatively affect our parenting
Family dynamics' influence on kids' behavior
The need for community support of families and children
How too many boundaries can hinder kids
Why alternative education options are necessary
The power of listening
The problems with many wilderness and residential treatment programs (spoiler: many are not actually accredited)
Legislative efforts to regulate programs aimed at troubled kids and families
What to look for when considering behavior modification programs (and red-flags to watch for!)
The power of committed, non-judgmental love
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
Troubled: The Failed Promise of America's Behavioral Treatment Programs -- Ken's book
kennethrrosen.com -- Ken's website
Traditional School Isn't Always the Way to Go, and I Wish My Parents Would Have Seen That Earlier -- Washington Post article by Ken
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Jul 22, 2021 • 35min
How to NOT Raise an A-Hole
When we become parents, someone really should hand us a book that details, exactly, how to NOT raise an a-hole.
Karen Alpert (of the blog Baby Sideburns), a mom of two and author of Mamas, Don't Let Your Kids Grow Up to be A-Holes: Unfiltered Advice on How to Raise Awesome Kids, recognizes that parents are terrified of inadvertently raising assholes.
"It is definitely one of my big fears," she says. "I don't want to raise a kid that's an a-hole. All the sexting and scary stuff and male chauvinism and racism - I'm trying to hard to teach my kids that stuff shouldn't be part of their lives."
But she knows there are no guarantees. And she starts her book by stating that babies are, almost by definition, a-holes. (Think about it: They scream when they need something. They don't care about your sleep or your needs or anything but their own comfort.)
"It is our job as parents to get the a-hole-y-ness out of them," Karen says. "We have 18 years. It is our job to send them out into the world in the best way possible."
We can do that by seizing random and ordinary moments. "Kids are like clay," Karen says. "Everything we do contributes to shaping them."
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Karen discuss:
Parents' secret fear
Bullying
How parenting approaches evolve as kids grow
Teaching kids to be considerate
Seizing opportunities to teach values
Revisiting conversations
Teaching kids to be anti-racist
How to teach kids important lessons while being creative and fun
"Boys will be boys"
Resisting gender stereotypes & expectations
20 ways to make your kids more creative
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
Mamas, Don't Let Your Kids Grow Up to be A-Holes: Unfiltered Advice on How to Raise Awesome Kids -- Karen's latest book
I Heart My Little A-Holes: A Bunch of Holy Crap Moments No One Ever Told You About Parenting -- Karen's first book
babysideburns.com -- Karen's blog
Just Don't be an Asshole (w Kara Kinney Cartwright) -- ON BOYS episode
How to Raise a Decent Human Being -- classic BuildingBoys postAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jul 15, 2021 • 47min
Dr. Michele Borba Knows How to Help Boys Thrive
Dr. Michele Borba knows how to help boys thrive.
She's a "boy mom" -- a mother of 3 grown sons, educational psychologist, and the author of Thrivers: The Surprising Reasons Why Some Kids Struggle and Others Shine.
Many boys are stressed but don't tell their parents because "they don't want to hurt us," Dr. Borba says. They want and need coping skills, and aren't getting what they need from school social-emotional learning (SEL) programs. And they're really worried about "flunking life."
It's time for parents to pivot and refocus their parenting efforts. The first step, Dr. Borba says, is to prioritize mental health. The second step is to convince ourselves that it's possible to teach resilience. Then we can turn our attention to...
7 Character Strengths That Will Help Boys Thrive
These 7 teachable character strengths can help children thrive, Dr. Borba says -- and inoculate them against peer pressure and bullying and allow them become peak performers in the classroom:
Confidence. You can build your son's confidence by focusing more on his strengths than his weaknesses.
Empathy. Boys may exhibit empathy differently than girls. They may take a more cognitive than emotional approach, and that's OK, Dr. Borba says.
Self-control. "Every boy I interviewed said, 'That's what we need!'" Dr. Borba says. But boys don't want only touchy-feeling stuff. They want to learn a repertoire of self-regulation techniques so they can choose what works for them in the moment.
Integrity. A boy needs a strong moral code so that "when peer pressure comes, he doesn't have to waver," Dr. Borba says.
Curiosity. "Thrivers are open to ideas and possibilities, so when a problem comes -- and it will -- they don't quit; they brainstorm," Dr. Borba says.
Perseverance, or the ability to keep going, even without external rewards.
Optimism. Boys need to be solidly grounded in reality, but they also need to know how to find the silver lining.
Adding two or more of these skills together amplifies their impact, Dr. Borba says. (In other words: your son doesn't need all 7 character strengths to thrive!)
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Dr. Borba discuss:
What kids think parents should focus on
The disconnect between many parenting book & what science has discovered about raising resilient, capable humans
3 things that help kids thrive in spite of adversity
7 characters strengths that help boys thrive
How hobbies help boys
Identifying your son's interests
How to tell if your son's video game use if problematic or healthy
How to NOT hinder your son's interests
Redirecting pessimistic thoughts
Instilling hope
Empowering boys
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
micheleborba.com -- Dr. Borba's website
Thrivers: The Surprising Reasons Why Some Kids Struggle and Others Shine -- Dr. Borba's latest book
What You Need to Know About Boys & Suicide -- ON BOYS episode featuring Katey McPherson (mentioned at 11:26)
Dr. Phil episode featuring Dr. Borba & Thrivers
Addiction Inoculation w Jessica Lahey -- ON BOYS episode
Emails & Phone Calls from Teachers -- ON BOYS episode mentioned at 22:32
Sponsor Spotlight: Hiya Health
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Jul 8, 2021 • 41min
The First-Time Mom’s Guide to Raising Boys
Ever wished you had a guide to raising boys?
A manual you can consult when your tween son confuses and frustrates you?
Now, one exists -- and it's Jen's first book!
The First-Time Mom's Guide to Raising Boys: A Practical Guide to Your Son's Formative Years, by Jennifer L.W. Fink, was released on July 6, 2021. It's a handbook that's intended to help moms navigating the tween years (approximately ages 8-12) for the very first time. Janet says Jen "interprets a complex subject in a way that's wise, fun & reassuring."
This book helps moms (& dads) understand male development and the challenges boys face in the world, and then teaches them skills and strategies they can use as they parent their tween sons. Listening, Jen says, is key.
"If you don't express an openness or willingness to listen to your son's viewpoint, he's not going to listen to yours," she says. "Remember that you have different perspectives. When it comes to social issues, your son does not know what happened 20, 30, 50, 100 years before he was born. So you have important perspective that you can share with him. But at the same time, you don't know what his daily experience is like. You don't fully understand what's happening in schools, what it's like to be a kid today.
If you can remain open and curious to each other's perspective, you can learn from each other."
In this episode, Jen & Janet discuss:
The unique skillset required to parent boys
Why the tween years are so challenging for moms
"Unlearning" parenting
How our childhood experiences affect our parenting
Talking about tough subjects with your son, including divorce, relationship conflict, addiction, mental illness, racism & violence
The importance of intergenerational relationships
Prioritizing mental health
When to worry
Boys' experience of shame & embarrassment
Helping a boy expressing self-hatred
Preparing boys to handle sexual pressure
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
The First-Time Mom's Guide to Raising Boys -- Jen's first book
Top 6 Tips for Parenting Tween Boys -- classic BuildingBoys post
The Inside Scoop on Parenting Tween Boys -- a very early conversation between Jen & Janet
Parenting Teen Boys Is... -- Building Boys post that includes the deodorant-in-freezer pic mentioned at 7:08
Addiction Inoculation with Jessica Lahey -- ON BOYS episode mentioned at 15:42
How to Raise a Feminist Son with Sonora Jha -- ON BOYS episode mentioned at 17:23
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Jul 1, 2021 • 35min
Constant Chaos Parenting with ADHD
Parenting a child with ADHD or neurodivergence can be challenging. Especially if you're also neurodivergent.
"When my youngest son was about 3 weeks old, he started crying and it really never stopped," says Rachel Blatt, co-host of the podcast Constant Chaos. At first, they thought it was colic, but visits to multiple gastrointestinal specialists didn't help. When he wasn't yet talking (at all) at age 2, "a wonderful teacher" suggested having the child evaluated. The family schedule an appointment -- and felt a "huge sense of relief" when the evaluator told them, "there something going on here." At age 4, Rachel's son was diagnosed with ADHD. Soon after, Rachel realized her older son exhibited ADHD symptoms as well. And eventually, she was diagnosed with ADHD as well.
Parenting books did not prepare her for the experience of parenting her children. "You're supposed to stay calm," Rachel says -- but that's not easy to do when your boys are on the roof!
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Rachel discuss:
ADHD symptoms -- & how they can look different even in people within the same family
The value of friends with kids just a little older than yours
Figuring out what to worry about
When to "drop the rope" in the tug-o-war with your kids
ADHD & video game addiction
Adjusting expectations
The value of structure for individuals with ADHD
Self-care
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
Constant Chaos podcast
The Explosive Child: A New Approach for Understanding and Parenting Easily Frustrated, Chronically Inflexible Children, by Dr. Ross Greene -- book mentioned at 30:36
ADHD with Ryan Wexelblatt the ADHD Dude -- ON BOYS episode
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Jun 24, 2021 • 46min
How to Raise a Feminist Son with Sonora Jha
You may wonder, how do you raise a feminist son?
Or you might be wondering, WHY would you raise a feminist son?
What if we phrased it this way: How do you raise boys who respect and value all humans?
"The word feminist, all over the world, has taken on so many definitions and meanings," says Sonora Jha, author of How to Raise a Feminist Son. "To me, the best definition is still Gloria Steinem's: Feminism is the radical idea that women are people too." It is the idea that all humans are worthy of respect, coupled with recognition of the fact that not all humans are afforded respect yet.
Welcome Media into Your Home - and "Gossip" Over It
"Feminism for a boy growing into a man means recognizing those things and committing to changing them," Sonora says. It does not mean restricting his access to media or telling him what to think. Quite the contrary: Sonora, a media professor, invited all kinds of media into her family's home, treating media like a "cool aunt or uncle," and "gossiping" over it.
She allowed her son to play Grand Theft Auto, a videogame some decry as overly violent and misogynistic, because her son talked about the game with her and recognized sexist tropes, largely because the mother/son duo had already spent years discussing media portrayals of men and women.
Facilitate Family Connections
Similarly, you can facilitate family connections without endorsing sexist or racist comments, actions, or beliefs. "You can say something like, 'I love Grandpa, but I don't love all the things he says,'" Sonora says, noting that family relationships (and humans!) are complex.
Our boys are complex & growing humans too, so less-than-ideal behavior is assured. Your son will occasionally behave in hurtful or harmful ways, and he will not always appreciate your redirection. As Sonora wrote in her book, "Trying to insert the notion of error, or wrongness, of failure into the cocksureness demanded from young men is like asking a bull to sit down at a tea party after waiving a red cape in its face.”
Give your boys grace. Give some to yourself as well. And remember that teaching your son to recognize and dismantle sexist structures is beneficial for all.
In this episode, Jen, Janet & Sonora discuss:
The definition of feminism
Raising boys who recognize privilege
Using stories & fairytales to expand kids' understanding of gender
How to welcome media into your family -- & then use it to connect with and teach your son
Creating family connections despite differing family & cultural beliefs
Talking to sons about your own #MeToo moments
Discussing consent with boys
How feminism helps boys & men
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
How to Raise a Feminist Son: Motherhood, Masculinity, and the Making of My Family -- Sonora's book
sonorajha.com -- Sonora's website
Know My Name: A Memoir by Chanel Miller, mentioned at 35:21
The Truth About Parenting Teen Boys -- classic Building Boys post (with additional info re 14-year-old boys)Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jun 17, 2021 • 39min
Highly Sensitive Boys with William Allen
Do you have a highly sensitive boy?
Perhaps your son has been called "too sensitive” or “too emotional.” Maybe he is easily overwhelmed, especially when he's surrounded by a lot of sensory stimuli.
Approximately 10% of all males are thought to be highly sensitive -- and often, others imply that they aren't "man enough." In a culture that's long valued stoicism in males, sensitivity is seen as a a liability. Except...emotional intelligence -- the ability to identify and process emotions -- is now recognized as key to human happiness, healthy relationships and even exemplary performance in the workplace.
By age 5, William Allen understood very clearly that he was different. People told him to "man up" and that he "needed to be tougher." Their words and reactions to his emotions told him, in no uncertain terms, that he was not living up to the masculine ideal. And, like many highly sensitive people (HSP), William reacted strongly to criticism. He internalized it and assumed that people were laughing at him, for instance, rather than his ridiculous costume when he took the stage in a school play.
William says parents can help their highly sensitive sons learn how to verbalize and test their internal thoughts. "As a parent, you're a trusted figure," he says. "You really don't know if an internal belief is true unless you're able to test it in the real world," William says.
In this episode, Jen, Janet & William discuss:
Characteristics of highly sensitive people
The effect of criticism only highly sensitive boys
Helping sensitive boys externalize thoughts and test ideas
Positive attributes associated with high sensitivity
Why highly sensitive boys are prone to overwhelm, temper tantrums and meltdowns
The link between sensitivity & empathy
Creating a calm environment for your sensitive child
Expanding the definition of masculinity to make space for sensitive boys & men
Highly sensitive heroes
Helping sensitive boys deal w peer pressure
Links we mentioned (or should have) in this episode:
The Highly Sensitive Person -- website recommended at 12:07
Confessions of a Sensitive Man: An Unconventional Defense of Sensitive Men, by William Allen
The Sensitive Man -- William's blog
Sensitive Boys (w Dr. Sandy Gluckman) -- ON BOYS episode
You Asked About Age 14, Implicit Bias & Sensitive Boys -- ON BOYS listener Q & A
Shameless -- TV show mentioned by Jen at 17:17
Outlander - TV show mentioned by William at 28:00
Why I Want My Boys to be Just Like Pa -- classic Building Boys post referencing Pa Ingalls, a highly sensitive man (at least as portrayed by Michael Landon!)
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