

The Varsity
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Puck Sports Correspondent John Ourand and a rotating cast of industry insiders take you deep inside the executive suites and owner boxes that run the entire sports business. You’ll hear interviews with everyone from players to network execs and everyone in between. The Varsity is an extension of John's private email for Puck by the same name. New episodes publish twice-weekly, every Wednesday and Sunday.
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Nov 19, 2025 • 47min
The Vox-Netflix Podquake & ESPN Détente
Sara Fischer, an Axios media correspondent, dives into the shifts in sports and media landscapes. She breaks down the standoff between YouTube TV and Disney, highlighting their negotiation tactics. Fischer also discusses Warner Bros. Discovery's potential sale, offering insights into bidder interests and its impact on sports media. Plus, she explores the rise of independent creators and Vox's strategic decisions in the podcasting realm, emphasizing why platforms are keen on acquiring audio assets as they navigate today's competitive market.

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Nov 16, 2025 • 47min
NWSL’s Big-League Breakout
Jessica Berman, the Commissioner of the National Women's Soccer League, dives into the league's remarkable growth, including skyrocketing TV ratings and record-breaking crowds. She discusses the innovative media strategy that emphasizes accessibility and collaboration with multiple platforms. Upcoming expansions to cities like Boston and Denver are also on the table, along with how the Men's World Cup could elevate interest in women's soccer. Berman highlights the league's commitment to promoting its stars and ensuring integrity amid the rise of sports betting.

Nov 12, 2025 • 47min
Steve Bornstein’s NFL Gospel
Steve Bornstein, a former president of ESPN and ABC Sports, shares his experiences shaping sports media and the NFL's rise. He reminisces about his collaboration with legendary commissioner Paul Tagliabue, highlighting their mutual respect and intellect. Bornstein discusses the challenges of the current sports media landscape, including streaming wars and AI's incursion. He also offers advice on career paths for graduates, champions women's volleyball, and emphasizes the need for broader access for fans in the evolving sports rights market.

Nov 9, 2025 • 39min
Hans Schroeder’s NFL Media Huddle
Hans Schroeder, a veteran NFL media executive, shares insights into the league's evolving media strategy. He discusses the significance of reach in future media rights deals and the surprising resilience of traditional broadcasters. Hans recounts the NFL's initial digital ventures and how they shaped current strategies for streaming partners like Netflix and Amazon. He also touches on international expansion, the rationale behind the NFL's stake in ESPN, and the potential role of AI in revolutionizing scheduling. A must-listen for sports media enthusiasts!

Nov 7, 2025 • 3min
Introducing Free Range with Von Miller
Join NFL superstar Von Miller as he explores the intersection of football and culture. He shares his unique insights on big sports stories and engages with influential figures from various fields. Expect plenty of locker room energy and intriguing discussions on life beyond the game. Plus, get a sneak peek into his adventures running a chicken farm! It's a vibrant mix of sports, entertainment, and intriguing societal topics.

Nov 5, 2025 • 54min
Disney vs. YouTube & Nielsen’s New Math
Julia Alexander, a media and streaming reporter with insights into carriage disputes and sports rights, joins to unravel the impact of Nielsen’s new out-of-home viewership data on Saturday night sports. They discuss the ongoing showdown between YouTube TV and Disney, examining the balance between content leverage and corporate power. Julia outlines how YouTube's unique ad business alters traditional negotiation tactics, and they debate the potential strategies Disney could adopt to strengthen its position in this shifting landscape.

Nov 2, 2025 • 46min
An NBA Betting Scandal Postmortem
Matt King, C.E.O. of Fanatics Betting and Gaming and former FanDuel C.E.O., delves into the aftermath of the NBA's betting scandal. He shares his immediate reaction to the federal indictments and emphasizes the importance of rapid reporting and surveillance in addressing integrity issues. The discussion explores how regulated betting can educate the public and reduce illegal activities. Matt also outlines Fanatics' innovative strategies in contrast to competitors, including a focus on customer rewards and potential growth in prediction markets.

Oct 29, 2025 • 43min
Inside Amazon’s A-List Sports Strategy
Jay Marine, a key Amazon executive driving Prime Video's sports strategy, shares insights on the company's transformation into a major player in live sports. He discusses the $20 billion NBA deal and how Amazon is reshaping league perceptions of streaming. Marine emphasizes investing in tier-one sports and women's leagues, aligning with Prime member value. He highlights innovative approaches like AI features and integration of shopping and betting in broadcasts, aiming to create a unique viewing experience for fans.

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Oct 26, 2025 • 48min
Rubin’s Fanatics Formula
Michael Rubin, the visionary founder of Fanatics, joins hosts Bill Cohan and Michael Nathanson at Puck’s In The Arena to discuss his remarkable journey in sports commerce. He reveals how he reinvented licensed merchandise by swiftly responding to fan needs. The conversation dives into his expansion into collectibles and betting, highlighting the innovative strategies behind Fanatics' growth. Rubin also shares insights on building connections across sports and entertainment, as well as his thoughts on a potential IPO and future initiatives.

Oct 22, 2025 • 48min
Gerry World
Gerry Cardinale, founder and CIO of RedBird Capital Partners, offers insight into the evolving landscape of live sports investments. He discusses the potential overvaluation of sports leagues and the crucial role of technology in rejuvenating legacy media. Gerry also shares his thoughts on the challenges of media M&A, the importance of cash-flow models, and how AI will enhance fan engagement and content production. Plus, he reflects on owning AC Milan and the need for innovative monetization strategies in a rapidly changing market.


