

The Varsity
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Puck Sports Correspondent John Ourand and a rotating cast of industry insiders take you deep inside the executive suites and owner boxes that run the entire sports business. You’ll hear interviews with everyone from players to network execs and everyone in between. The Varsity is an extension of John's private email for Puck by the same name. New episodes publish twice-weekly, every Wednesday and Sunday.
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Aug 27, 2025 • 52min
Roger Goodell’s Justice League
NBC’s Mike Florio returns to the pod for a wide-ranging NFL season preview, tackling the biggest off-the-field questions facing the league: the NFL's in-house justice system, the league’s potential 10% ownership stake in ESPN and its impact on coverage, the NFLPA's leadership issues, the potential expansion to 18 games, and much, much more.
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Aug 24, 2025 • 59min
College Football Embraces the Crazy
Fox Sports’ lead college football analyst Joel Klatt joins John to make sense of the sport’s ongoing upheaval—from playoff expansion madness and conference realignment to N.I.L. and the huge debates over the transfer portal. They also delve into ESPN’s continued GameDay supremacy over Fox’s Big Noon Kickoff (even after the Portnoy stunt), plus the Bill Belichick of it all.
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Aug 20, 2025 • 41min
Yahoo’s Big Sports Play
Ryan Spoon, president of Yahoo Media Group, discusses the launch of the Yahoo Sports Network and the strategic shift toward ad-supported content across various platforms. He shares insights on Yahoo's partnerships and innovative collaborations aimed at enhancing user engagement. Spoon highlights the evolution of fantasy sports, with new game formats set to attract a wider audience. He also talks about YahooSports.tv's purpose in delivering diverse original content to keep fans engaged as the sports media landscape continues to change.

Aug 17, 2025 • 60min
Does Baseball Need a Salary Cap?
ESPN's Jeff Passan, a renowned baseball insider, dives into the escalating tensions between MLB owners and the players union. He discusses Bryce Harper's clash with commissioner Rob Manfred, revealing the potential for a work stoppage. The podcast explores the contentious debate around a salary cap, its implications for player contracts, and the competitive landscape of baseball. Additionally, Passan sheds light on labor relations and the emotional rollercoaster faced by players amid these challenges, blending serious analysis with a touch of humor.

Aug 13, 2025 • 33min
A Sports Rights Royal Rumble
Axios’s Sara Fischer returns to the pod to help make sense of the biggest sports media plot lines from the past few weeks: Paramount’s $7.7 billion deal with UFC, ESPN’s respective bombshell pacts with the NFL and WWE, the network’s forthcoming D.T.C. product, and much, much more.
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Aug 10, 2025 • 44min
Josh Pate Gets Drafted
Josh Pate, college football’s favorite late-night philosopher, joins the pod to break down his new distribution deal with On3/Rivals and Yahoo. Josh also retraces his winding path through the sports media ecosystem, and addresses a host of other topics affecting the college sports business.
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Aug 6, 2025 • 34min
Nick Khan on the WWE-ESPN Deal
Nick Khan, the President of WWE, dives into the thrilling new deal with ESPN to stream major events like WrestleMania and SummerSlam. He reveals WWE's strategies for global expansion and the importance of partnerships with platforms like Netflix and Peacock. Their discussion touches on how these collaborations are shaping fan engagement and adapting to a rapidly changing media landscape. Khan also offers insights into navigating market dynamics and the significance of streamlining negotiations in the competitive world of entertainment.

Aug 3, 2025 • 51min
A Sports Legend’s Second Act
Sally Jenkins, perhaps the best sports columnist in the business, joins John for a candid conversation about her decision to leave The Washington Post after 25 years and join The Atlantic. She reflects on her rise through the ranks, Bezos’s generous buyout offer, the uncertain future of The Post, what she hopes to tackle in her next chapter—and much, much more.
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Jul 30, 2025 • 49min
The Art of the Sports Collectible
Puck’s resident art market expert Marion Maneker swings by the pod for a rollicking conversation about the growing market for sports collectibles, from a recent $660,000 Caitlin Clark rookie card sale to the many ways auction houses are elevating collectibles into high art.
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Jul 27, 2025 • 48min
A Major NFLPA Fumble
ESPN’s Don Van Natta joins the pod to break down the widespread dysfunction rocking the NFLPA—from sexual harassment claims to collusion accusations and more—that led to the abrupt resignation of executive director Lloyd Howell. They explore the myriad implications for the future of one of the most powerful labor organizations in sports.
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