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Mike Seccombe, the National correspondent for The Saturday Paper, dives deep into Peter Dutton's controversial nuclear power proposal. He dissects the $331 billion plan's costings, which claim to be cheaper than Labor's renewable rollout, but contrasts sharply with the CSIRO’s findings. The discussion reveals questionable economic modeling and the stark reality that nuclear plants might take decades to become operational. Seccombe examines the implications for voters and highlights the ongoing clash between nuclear power and the rapidly decreasing costs of renewable energy.

John Safran, a renowned writer and filmmaker celebrated for his intriguing explorations of identity and culture, shares his latest experiences in this conversation. He discusses his week living in Kanye West's Malibu mansion, revealing the chaos behind his unconventional journey. Safran delves into the complexities of cultural identity and the intersection of art and politics. The tension between authenticity and performance in contemporary society is scrutinized, along with emotional narratives that shape personal and broader cultural stories.

In this discussion, Andrew Dodd, Director of the Centre for Advancing Journalism, unpacks the intense family drama surrounding Rupert Murdoch's succession plans. He reveals how a Nevada probate commissioner's ruling has intensified tensions, showcasing a rift between Rupert and his children. The conversation explores the implications for their media empire, particularly the rivalry between Lachlan and James. Dodd also speculates on the future strategies under Lachlan's leadership amidst a shifting media landscape.

Gregg Carlstrom, the Middle East correspondent for The Economist, shares insights on the seismic changes in Syria following the decline of Bashar al-Assad's regime. He discusses the emotional aftermath as citizens celebrate amidst a backdrop of chaos and uncertainty. The conversation also covers the evolution of the rebel group HTS and the complex challenges of establishing governance in post-Assad Syria. Additionally, Carlstrom analyzes the shifting geopolitical landscape, including the potential roles of Turkey and Iran in this new era.

In this episode, Sarah Hanson-Young, the Greens' communications spokesperson and chair of the Senate inquiry into greenwashing, dives into the influence of major gas companies on Australian media. She reveals how News Corp tabloids published pro-gas stories funded by these companies, blurring the line between journalism and advertising. The discussion spans the media's role in masking corruption, the pressure on environmental legislation from the fossil fuel lobby, and the necessity for transparency and accountability in political reporting.

Jason Koutsoukis, a special correspondent for The Saturday Paper, dives into the disruptive tactics of political campaign strategies in Australia. He reveals how low-quality memes and innovative digital marketing helped Scott Morrison's government win in 2019. The conversation examines the rise of Topham Guerin, who are now advising Peter Dutton, and the ethical dilemmas posed by deepfakes in politics. Koutsoukis also highlights the challenges faced by the Labor party in their digital battle and the implications for public trust in political discourse.

Kim Williams, Chair of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, addresses critical challenges facing the ABC amid a wave of structural changes. He emphasizes the need for greater investment to counteract significant funding cuts and discusses the ABC's vital role in a landscape rife with misinformation. The conversation also delves into recent audience feedback on programming decisions and the impact of management changes on the broadcaster's integrity. Williams defends controversial decisions, navigating a path forward for public media in Australia.

Clare Wright, an award-winning author known for her impactful histories like "The Forgotten Rebels of Eureka," discusses her latest work, "Näku Dhäruk: The Bark Petitions." She emphasizes the importance of Indigenous histories in civil rights and the relevance of the Yerkela people's 1963 Bark Petitions. Clare shares her formative experiences with Australian history and how her immigrant background shaped her perspective. Her transformative journey in Arnhem Land highlights the critical role of listening to diverse voices in enriching our understanding of history.

George Megalogenis, author of *Minority Report: The New Shape of Australian Politics*, delves into the shifting dynamics of Australian politics. He discusses how the electorate is splintering, challenging the viability of major parties. The conversation highlights the implications of The Voice referendum and the risk of a minority government shaping future elections. Megalogenis also reflects on the decline of traditional party support and the potential chaos of a hung parliament, emphasizing the need for new political alliances.

Joseph Earp, a contributor to The Saturday Paper, dives into the surprising link between Donald Trump and professional wrestling. He explores how Trump's 2007 match with Vince McMahon showcased his political style and manipulation of the crowd. Earp highlights the cultural impact of WWE on Trump's rhetoric, revealing how wrestling tactics shaped his public persona. The conversation also touches on Linda McMahon’s transition from WWE to a Trump cabinet role, illustrating the blurred lines between entertainment and politics.