The Extramilest Podcast

Thanks to LMNT for sponsoring this video! Head to https://drinklmnt.com/flo to get your free sample pack with any purchase.   Jennifer Kellett absolutely crushes the age group divisions. For example, she ran a half marathon in 1:37:31 and broke the Australian 65-69 age category record and at the time was only 2 seconds off the World Record. It wasn't until her early 60s that she made running her primary sport. Jennifer is a member of our Personal Best Running Coaching Program, more info at https://www.pbprogram.com/    Watch the full video on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/IidfDmGAXqs      Chapters: 00:00 Intro (Jennifer) 00:27 Intro (Floris) 02:50 Welcome Jennifer! 04:17 Running smarter not harder. 08:18 Going beyond limits, the perception of an age barrier. 11:38 From higher intensity to slowing down in training. 13:10 MAF training “guard rails”, max heart rate and running by feel. 15:53 Advice for people starting out with heart rate training. 17:29 Training in the heat (Australia) 18:40 Recovery strategy for a short turnaround of events, plus breaking records! 21:36 Starting running at different ages. 23:28 Don’t chase the squirrel! Letting go of ego and improving self-awareness. 27:17 Jennifer’s 2023 Chicago Marathon experience. 33:14 Raceday doesn’t always go to plan. Eating on the move? Take your blender! 35:29 Jennifer’s training routine, being an intuitive runner and avoiding injury. 41:07 Looking towards the Comrades Marathon. 43:29 Advice for people looking to go further distances.  46:09 Closing thoughts; training load and strength training as we get older. 52:08 Outro.   FIND JENNIFER KELLETT HERE: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jenniek1111 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runningfromoldage Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/19073319 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.kellett.186   LINKS & TOOLS MENTIONED: Per-Olof Åstrand ~ https://www.topendsports.com/testing/history-astrand.htm Stephen Seiler Ted Talk ~ https://bit.ly/47D2OJQ Comrades Marathon ~ https://www.comrades.com/ Vitamix blender ~ https://amzn.to/3Qya8PT   YOU CAN FIND ME, COACH FLORIS GIERMAN HERE:  Our Personal Best Coaching Program: www.pbprogram.com YouTube: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT Strava: strava.com/athletes/1329785 Instagram: instagram.com/florisgierman Website: extramilest.com Website: pathprojects.com Podcast: extramilest.com/podcast/   Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases.” Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way.   ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete.   More info about our running coaching program that Jennifer Kellett is a part of can be found at https://www.pbprogram.com.    SUBSCRIBE and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT  

Three running coaches from The Personal Best Program discuss common running mistakes and share tips on how to avoid them. Topics include the importance of easy runs, prioritizing well-being, managing ego and comparison, being present in running, common racing mistakes, the value of a supportive running community, and connecting with the speakers to share running mistakes.

Thanks to LMNT for sponsoring this video! Head to https://drinklmnt.com/flo to get your free sample pack with any purchase. Todd Marentette is a 46-year-old athlete from Ontario, Canada. He went from around 250 lbs/113kg, to finishing 12 marathons. We discuss low heart rate training and his race lessons learned. Watch the full video on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/05QUrjPVN6Q    CHAPTERS: 00:00 Intro 02:36 How Todd got into running 06:33 Learning patience and looking after your feet! 12:28 Fundamentals for non-elite runners, Todd’s routine. 16:43 Challenges and benefits with low heart rate training 20:45 First race day experiences 25:50 Further training cycles and races, beat your average! 28:19 What is your Why? 30:45 Running all seasons in Ontario 34:23 The perfect race morning 36:24 Heart rate monitoring, watch tech and metrics. 41:51 Base-building and adding in speed 47:37 Running isn’t just running 50:11 The role of recovery in training 53:18 Keeping active while desk-working, beauty of the trails. 56:22 Increasing volume of low intensity running 1:01:41 Find out more about Todd 1:02:13 What Todd learned through his running experiences. 1:04:06 Closing thoughts, don’t be afraid to ask for help! 1:07:10 Outro – about the PB Program   FIND TODD MARENTETTE HERE: Instagram: instagram.com/altramarathonman    LINKS & TOOLS MENTIONED: Garmin Fenix watches - amzn.to/3RS6a6Y  Polar H10 chest strap HRM - amzn.to/3LYV644 PATH projects apparel - /pathprojects.com Altra Footwear - amzn.to/3S1Rxhp Danny Dreyer Chi Running - youtube.com/watch?v=VrHyT-D1se8  Dr Mark Cucuzzella - youtube.com/watch?v=wCbr-dkUi7Q Dr Phil Maffetone - youtube.com/watch?v=_TPrenWWK9U Coach Amelia Vrabel - youtube.com/watch?v=rW6mr8A_dpA Coach Ben Edusei - youtube.com/watch?v=-mIcYyVqXNw    YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE:  Our Personal Best Coaching Program: www.pbprogram.com YouTube: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT Strava: strava.com/athletes/1329785 Instagram: instagram.com/florisgierman Website: extramilest.com Website: pathprojects.com Podcast: extramilest.com/podcast/   Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases.” Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way.   ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete.   More info about our running coaching program can be found at https://www.pbprogram.com.    SUBSCRIBE and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT  

Renowned author and expert in human performance, mindfulness, and breathwork, Kasper van der Meulen, discusses various breathing techniques to improve running, the power of breath in overall well-being, hypoventilation for athletes, the connection between posture and breath in athletic performance, controlling breathing for marathon running, breathwork in training and everyday life, and finding joy in training and long-term health.

Thanks to LMNT for sponsoring this video! Head to https://drinklmnt.com/FLO to get your free sample pack with any purchase.   Jennifer Schmidt helps active people navigate their mental health challenges towards wellness. She is a Recreation Therapist and Functional Medicine Certified Health Coach, taking athletes mental health beyond exercise.  Watch this full interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/SrG9dn2ADp0   CHAPTERS: 00:00​ how your sport performance can improve significantly 03:06​ how Jen became a mental health coach for athletes 05:15​ how mental health starts in the body 06:54 ​recognizing mental health issues in athletes 10:56​ getting to the root causes of stress responses, looking at biology 16:02​ anxiety and depression as symptoms, not isolated states 17:01​ practical ways to manage anxiety in the moment 20:29​ inflammation with anxiety and depression 22:31​ nail the basics, then get to the “fancy” stuff 23:47​ stress of a busy schedules and talking about our emotions 28:47​ potential benefits of cold exposure 36:29​ light and mood, circadian rhythms, SAD lamps 40:57​ injury and identity with sport 44:04​ journaling, stream of consciousness writing and gratitude 47:39​ laughter is the best medicine! 53:48​ transformational journeys for athletes 58:22​ holistic approach to training and health 1:00:22​ mental health after racing, finding that dopamine hit! 1:03:03​ find out more about Jennifer 1:04:32​ closing thoughts Floris   FIND JENNIFER SCHMIDT HERE: ► Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ignitehealthcoaching ► Website - www.igniteyourhealth.ca ► Weekly Newsletter - https://www.igniteyourhealth.ca/mental-health-pb/    LINKS & TOOLS ► Wim Hof on Extramilest Show https://youtu.be/6-WVAsie2oA   YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► Podcast: https://extramilest.com/podcast ► My Running Coaching Program: https://www.pbprogram.com  ► My weekly newsletter: https://extramilest.com/subscribe  ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785  ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman  ► Website: https://extramilest.com  ► Website: https://pathprojects.com    Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.” Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way.   ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW:  A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete.   🚨 GIVEAWAY!! Win a $100 gift card to PATH projects. To enter, subscribe to my YouTube channel & comment: what was your favorite takeaway, lesson or quote from this video? 1 winner will be picked by November 30th from the YouTube comments.   To learn more about our running coaching program, from 5k to marathons and ultra distances, for beginners, intermediate and advanced runners, visit https://www.pbprogram.com 

Matt Choi, a Korean/American hybrid athlete, discusses training as a hybrid athlete and shares advice for newer athletes. They explore transitioning from high intensity to slowing down, the definition of a hybrid athlete, and the importance of individualized training and healthy aging. Matt also talks about his training week structure, nutrition, and recovery, and highlights the mistakes hybrid athletes make. Other topics include race day examples, dealing with adversity, motivation and discipline, lessons from David Goggins, pulling from different energy systems, taking creatine, finding the right footwear, and nutrition principles for hybrid athletes.

Kyle Whalum, is a non-elite ultra runner and bass player for Kelly Clarkson, Katy Perry and The Voice. We discuss MAF low heart rate training, quitting alcohol, meditation and mental health. Thanks to LMNT for sponsoring this video! Visit https://drinklmnt.com/FLO to get your free LMNT sample pack with any purchase. Watch this full interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/giMsbYHvimE  CHAPTERS: 0:00 How to enjoy your running practice 3:00 Sponsor LMNT 4:35 How Kyle got into meditation out of necessity 13:40 How to get into consistent meditation 18:30 How meditation can improve your running 21:20 MAF training experiences and learnings 26:50 Why and how Kyle stopped drinking alcohol 28:20 Advice for first 6 months of MAF training 31:10 Kyle’s first MAF training breakthrough with Kyle  34:00 Base building and high intensity running 35:21 Advice to start with MAF running 37:00 Lifestyle changes, taking a look under the hood 38:05 How combine working late, dad mode and running? 43:12 Floris shares his skateboard tour experiences 45:17 Night shift workers and sleep approach 48:50 Sacrifices to reach big goals 53:35 Cutting out alcohol, setting up support system 57:28 Poster Floris office, My Life In Weeks 1:01:40 Having fun besides drinking alcohol 1:06:55 Advice for athletes looking to improve 1:08:46 Closing thoughts Floris 1:09:44 How to run and be present 1:11:35 Personal Best Program Community   FIND MARCO HERE: ► Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kylewhalum/   LINKS AND TOOLS MENTIONED ► My Life In Weeks - 4k poster: https://bit.ly/4kweeks ► Center For Resilience - https://www.davidlynchfoundation.org ► Reframe Drinking App - https://bit.ly/reframe-app ► Katy Perry Tour - https://www.katyperry.com/tour/    YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► Podcast: https://extramilest.com/podcast ► Personal Best Program: https://www.pbprogram.com  ► My weekly newsletter: https://extramilest.com/subscribe  ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785  ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman  ► Website: https://extramilest.com  ► Website: https://pathprojects.com    Thanks to PATH projects and LMNT for sponsoring this episode! Visit PATHprojects.com/flo to learn more about my favorite apparel for training, racing and life. Also, head to  http://DrinkLMNT.com/FLO to get your free sample pack with any purchase.   Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.” Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way.   ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW:  A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete.   🚨 GIVEAWAY!! Win a box of LMNT Electrolyte Drink Mix. To enter, subscribe to my YouTube channel & comment: what was your favorite takeaway, lesson or quote from this video? 1 winner will be picked by September 30th from the YouTube comments.   To learn more about our running coaching program, from 5k to marathons and ultra distances, visit https://www.pbprogram.com 

Heart Rate Variability (HRV) provides insights to help you quantify stress, better balance training and lifestyle, and improve performance.   Marco Altini (PhD, MSc) has 50 publications+ and a few patents at the intersection between technology, health, and performance. He is the founder of HRV4Training (Heart Rate Variability), an app I use daily. He is also a data science advisor at Oura; a wearable ring and app to optimize how you sleep, workout and recover. He is also a strong non-elite runner!   Watch this full interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/vvtU_IK8JkI  CHAPTERS: 00:00 HRV to handle load better 01:08 Sponsor: PATH projects and LMNT 2:34 Explaining Heart Rate Variability 6:30 How to measure HRV 16:06 Improving HRV 22:51 Sleep 23:37 Marco integrating HRV data into his own training 27:56 Breath work and breathing 36:04 HRV: guided versus dictated 41:24 Examples from Floris’ training 46:43 Tapering for events 51:08 Positive stress and the limitations of data 52:01 Developments in non-invasive wearables 54:58 Find out more about Marco 56:46 Closing thoughts   FIND MARCO HERE: ► Twitter - https://twitter.com/altini_marco   ► Substack - https://marcoaltini.substack.com/  ► Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/altini_marco/  ► Website - https://www.marcoaltini.com/    LINKS AND TOOLS MENTIONED ► Website - https://www.hrv4training.com/ ► App (search) - HRV4Training ► Jason Koop podcast with Marco Altini - https://bit.ly/3q57cRp  ► Oura ring - https://ouraring.com/ ► Josh Waitzkin website - https://www.joshwaitzkin.com/ ► Tim Ferriss website - https://tim.blog/ ► Joe Dispenza website - https://drjoedispenza.com/  ► Dr. Stephen Seiler on 80/20 Training | Extramilest Show #50 - https://bit.ly/3pIOWx4   YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► Podcast: https://extramilest.com/podcast ► Personal Best Program: https://www.pbprogram.com  ► My weekly newsletter: https://extramilest.com/subscribe  ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785  ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman  ► Website: https://extramilest.com  ► Website: https://pathprojects.com    Thanks to PATH projects and LMNT for sponsoring this episode! Visit PATHprojects.com/flo to learn more about my favorite apparel for training, racing and life. Also, head to http://DrinkLMNT.com/FLO to get your free sample pack with any purchase.   Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.” Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way.   ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW:  A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete.   🚨 GIVEAWAY!! Win a box of LMNT Electrolyte Drink Mix. To enter, subscribe to my YouTube channel & comment: what was your favorite takeaway, lesson or quote from this video? 1 winner will be picked by September 30th from the YouTube comments.   To learn more about our running coaching program, from 5k to marathons and ultra distances, visit https://www.pbprogram.com 

Thanks to LMNT for sponsoring this episode! Head to http://DrinkLMNT.com/FLO to get your free sample pack with any purchase.   Maria Lurenda Westergaard is a runner, a Doctor of Medicine and member of our Personal Best Program. She shares her success with low heart rate training and improved health.   Watch this full interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/i5TmvBfJp-Y    CHAPTERS: 00:00 Compare to yourself 02:38 Sponsor: LMNT 03:50 Welcome Maria! Running and background. 05:34 Relocating to Europe from the Philippines, Medical work, Boston Strong 09:05 Maybe I should run a marathon! 11:37 Early stages of Maria’s running journey 15:04 Developing as a runner, using your strengths to improve confidence 18:39 Comparison should be inspiring! 21:06 MAF improvements, data over time 23:40 Other forms of success 25:19 Health first, running performance will follow 27:39 Energy level after running, heart rate indicators 29:16 4 areas of tracking: stress, sleep, nutrition & strength 42:00 Benefits of data and journaling 43:48 Coffee and Floris’ upcoming Berlin Marathon 45:48 Valencia Marathon 51:00 Different types of runners, what really matters? 58:28 Health concerns, running with grief (Copenhagen & Guam) 1:05:00 Calm and low heart training, problem-solving while running 1:07:44 Lessons from low heart training journey, future goal: Marathon at 80! 1:14:00 Find out more about Maria 1:15:35 Closing thoughts   FIND MARIA HERE: ►  Marathon at 80 (website) - https://marathonat80.com/   LINKS AND TOOLS MENTIONED ► Marathon at 80 (website) - https://marathonat80.com/ ► Dr. Stephen Seiler on 80/20 Training | Extramilest Show #50 - bit.ly/3pIOWx4 ► Lori Harder - https://loriharder.com/ ► Team Hoyt - https://teamhoyt.com/ ► Team Twin / Team Tvilling (Denmark)- https://denmark.dk/people-and-culture/team-twin ► Berlin Marathon - https://www.bmw-berlin-marathon.com/en/ ► Valencia Marathon- https://www.valenciaciudaddelrunning.com/en/marathon/maraton/ ► Copenhagen Marathon - https://copenhagenmarathon.dk/en/ ► Boston Marathon - https://www.baa.org/races/boston-marathon ► Continous Glucose Monitor- https://bit.ly/3Xebylh ($25 off with code FLO25)   YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► Podcast: https://extramilest.com/podcast ► Personal Best Program: https://www.pbprogram.com  ► My weekly newsletter: https://extramilest.com/subscribe  ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785  ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman  ► Website: https://extramilest.com  ► Website: https://pathprojects.com    Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.” Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way.   ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW:  A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete.   🚨 GIVEAWAY!! Win a box of LMNT Electrolyte Drink Mix. To enter, subscribe to my YouTube channel & comment: what was your favorite takeaway, lesson or quote from this video? 2 winners will be picked by August 30th from the YouTube comments.   To learn more about our running coaching program, from 5k to marathons and ultra distances, visit https://www.pbprogram.com 

Thanks to PATH projects and LMNT for sponsoring this video! Visit https://pathprojects.com/FLO to get 10% off your order of PATH projects running gear. Visit https://drinklmnt.com/FLO to get your free LMNT sample pack with any purchase.   Dr Maffetone is a physician, athletic coach, and best-selling health and fitness author. He is also a singer-songwriter and music producer. We discuss his new book B-Sharp and how to train your brain for optimal health and athletic performance. I have learned so much from him over the years to optimize our health and fitness in a holistic way. Decades ago Dr Maffetone already talked about the benefits of MAF low heart rate training, many years before Zone 2 training had mainstream awareness like it has now.    Watch this full interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/QfUCQ-LQeYo      This episode is brought to you by PATH projects running apparel. For a limited time only, get 10% off your PATH order at PATHprojects.com/FLO This is the clothing I wear in training, racing and every day life. For hot weather months I love running in the AirDot T or Tank. Recently we collaborated with Believe in the Run on a limited PATH shirt. My favorite shorts are The Graves PX 7” shorts, with 4 pockets to carry my phone, gels and keys. Below these shorts I wear a separate base liner, the Lynx liner in 5”. The separate short from liner eliminates all chafing, it’s a game changer for long distance running too. For a limited time only, get 10% off your PATH order at PATHprojects.com/FLO. That is PATHprojects.com/FLO   * Here is a great quote by famous music producer Rick Rubin:  “Phil is usually 30 years ahead of the curve. If he is singing the praises of the healing power of music today, I imagine in 2053 it will be accepted mainstream care!”—Rick Rubin, music producer    CHAPTERS: 00:00 Train your brain 02:21 Sponsors: PATH projects, LMNT 04:45 Welcome back Dr. Phil Maffetone! 05:30 B sharp! Music as part of a holistic approach to health. 10:02 Music for athletes 16:22 Listening while exercising, or not. 22:41 Breathing patterns and brain adaptation 25:30 Listening to the body 27:00 Working with Rick Rubin 33:50 Self-doubt 34:45 The 5-minute power break, improving body function 37:50 Hearing new things in music 41:45 Real music vs junk, genre 46:15 Heart rate and music, alpha state, multi-tasking 52:00 Day dreaming vs distraction 53:25 You are addicted to your phone! 57:29 The brain and age 1:00:32 Our passions and dreams 1:01:35 Start line race day nerves 1:07:45 Impact of music on race day 1:10:27 The trainable brain 1:12:33 Where to find out more about Dr Phil Maffetone and his work 1:14:03 Advice to optimize health and performance 1:14:40 More training is often not better   FIND OUT MORE ABOUT DR MAFFETONE ► Music website - https://maffetonemusic.com/  ► B sharp! (book) by Dr Phil Maffetone - https://amzn.to/43Yq1oa  ► YouTube Maffetone Music: https://www.youtube.com/@MaffetoneMusic  ► MAF website - https://philmaffetone.com/    LINKS AND TOOLS MENTIONED ► Dr Phil Maffetone - the 5 minute power break https://philmaffetone.com/the-5-minute-power-break/  ► The Big Book of Endurance Training and Racing (book) by Dr Phil Maffetone https://amzn.to/444Cerm  ► Danny Dreyer (book) - Chi Running https://amzn.to/3pjUqyp ► Danny Dreyer (book) Chi Walking https://amzn.to/441J5lC  ► Rick Rubin - The Creative Act: A Way of Being - https://amzn.to/44mNkYv  ► Digital Minimalism (book) by Carl Newport - https://amzn.to/3JZcJA3    YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► Podcast: https://extramilest.com/podcast ► Personal Best Program: https://www.pbprogram.com  ► My weekly newsletter: https://extramilest.com/subscribe  ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785  ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman  ► Website: https://extramilest.com  ► Website: https://pathprojects.com    Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.” Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way.   ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW:  A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete.   🚨 GIVEAWAY!! Win a copy of Dr Maffetone's book B-Sharp. To enter, subscribe to my YouTube channel & comment: what was your favorite takeaway, lesson or quote from this video? 3 winners will be picked by August 30th from the YouTube comments.   To learn more about our running coaching program, from 5k to marathons and ultra distances, visit PBprogram.com, that is the Personal Best Program at https://www.pbprogram.com