Tucker Goodrich is a Wall Street tech extraordinaire and nutrition science enthusiast. After doctors and the healthcare system let him down in severe and avoidable ways, he took his health into his own hands and had amazing results. He’s done a ton of research on Omega 6 fatty acids otherwise known as seed oils otherwise known as vegetable oils previously known as an industrial waste product before we started feeding them to humans. He makes a compelling case for them being a major factor in many, if not all, modern diseases. You’ll definitely not want to be eating fast food fries cooked in old, rancid vegetable oils after this episode. The sunburn stuff at the end is legit. I won’t spoil it, but just know Robb Wolf just backed this up on his podcast with science. There is a mechanism there that makes total sense and I’ve seen it anecdotally as well. We seem to have stalled out with the Food Lies film Indiegogo campaign. Please keep supporting us there. This documentary and podcast is all done by support of people like you. We’re not taking any outside money other than from my own pocket to fund this. Thanks so much, I sincerely appreciate it. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Show Notes Works on Wall Street and developed software that deals with trillions of dollars of assets Had a stroke-like event at age 38 Then got acute diverticulitis Got a colon resection and followed “healthy” diet and doctor’s advice and was still sick He called himself “Mr. Whole Wheat” - stopped eating sugar when he was 19 so that wasn’t it 16 years of IBS… finally found Stephan Guyenet’s blog http://stephanguyenet.com Started fixing himself in 2 days using dietary change His surgery was probably unnecessary He is well connected to Daniel Lieberman and The Story of the Human Body Diseases of civilization Agriculture allowed us to build cities, paved the way for written language to keep track of grains, etc. We over-hunted all the very large animals From eating grains we got shorter, got cavities, lesions on bones, all while our population exploded We used to be more robust and have bigger brains Diabetes used to be super rare - we have medical records of this Cancer a huge problem in Germany Heart disease in England Diseases went around the world as eating patterns went around the world We even give other species diabetes and our diseases when we feed them our foods - monkeys, dogs, cats - even racoons who eat human garbage Weston A. Price needs to be mentioned for his great work Realization came at the salad bar with the dressings Cut all vegetable oils and cured himself Cut out carbs and processed foods and exercised less and lost tons of weight Started doing more research - lots of people said seed oils are bad, but nobody really explained the mechanism back then Maybe the largest epidemiological study ever on saturated fat in India looking at the northern and southern populations The south who ate like our food pyramid suggests had 7-15 times the heart disease rate How about England? Heart disease skyrocketed with the intro of seed oils Okinawa is a Blue Zone - place where people live abnormally long First fast food restaurant opened in Okinawa Okinawa went from the longest lifespan in Japan to the shortest Seed oil consumption tracks modern disease all over the world These cultures were eating a high carb diet so it's likely not the carbs - the carb consumption actually went down Japanese and chinese are some of the shortest populations and they subsist on high carb, low meat diet. We know we got shorter when agriculture was invented. We know when we lower carb intake and up meat intake populations get taller Grains are a “fallback food” It’s funny that rich people in Santa Monica purposely try to live in the Failed Environment Metabolic State while thinking they’re morally superior to us Tarahumara Indians eat this way - their children have a malnutrition rate of 80% Carbohydrate is a cofactor. 5 key studies: rats and diabetes & heart failure; (Ghosh 2004); LA and obesity (Alvheim 2012) Lyon Diet Heart (De Lorgeril 1994); Seed oils and insulin resistance in India (Nigam 2014); Seed oils and NAFLD, (Maciejewska 2015) Lyon heart study - lowered Omega 6 and raised Omega 3 to improve heart attack risk of repeat by 70% William Lands: “I’ve studied saturated fat for 50 years and never found a mechanism that it could kill somebody” American Heart Association’s “Prudent Diet” proved to be outright harmful to people in this study History of LDL cholesterol and heart disease To make LDL atherogenic omega 6 fats need to be oxidized Researchers found this mechanism before De Lorgeril had success with replacing Omega 6s with olive oil, where he improved heart attack outcomes without knowing the mechanism Researchers prime rats to get cancer and can’t do this unless they use omega 6s Western Cancers and the P53 gene mutation Japanese women moving to America breast cancer went up 7 fold Why is there DNA damage present in all western diseases? Mitochondrial dysfunction is a hallmark of all western diseases Avoiding heated seed oils is not good enough - damage still happens inside cells damaged cardiolipin cause mitochondria to stop working properly and is primarily caused by excess carbohydrates in the diet A lot of disease is teed up by excess carbs but the seed oils are what activate the damage Asian countries and rice consumption Knockout gene and detoxifying seed oils Selenium deficiency in China and glutathione Omega 6 fats combined with glucose causes oxidation and can be seen in a petri dish Women in CHina were getting lung cancer that didn’t smoke - turned out it was cooking with seed oils and inhaling the fumes Seed oils break down into one of the same toxins as in cigarette smoke Seed oils used to be an industrial waste product There’s no conspiracy theory - they thought these oils were fine. They aren't acutely toxic, it takes years to do damage Everything has a U-shaped curve - too little or too much is bad There’s essential fats in dairy and maybe more we don’t know about How do vegans temporarily survive? Kitavans Sunburn and diet - how could they possibly be related? His wife with dark skin and his light skin What’s the mechanism? His radiation research Evolutionary context for omega 6 causing sunburn (or lack of omega 6 making us able to not get sunburned) Now are omega 3 to omega 6 ratio is a nightmare Giving omega 3 and a better diet to prisoners helped with their behavior Weston Prices studied diet and its effects on troubled youth as well Not everyone needs to cut out wheat, but just know it’s effects. Everyone should cut out sugar, refined grains, and seed oils though Gabor Erdosi lecture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rcfvRGZsDs The amount of physical grinding of starch affects your digestion and health in a negative way Gabor is actually the next podcast guest Japanese people eat high starch but it’s in its whole form, not ground People are confused on what healthy even is, so it’s hard to be healthy Going to restaurants is not even worth it anymore when you can make things better at home Tucker’s blog http://yelling-stop.blogspot.com/ Tucker on Twitter https://twitter.com/TuckerGoodrich     Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post     Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg   Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Today we have Craig and Maria Emmerich who have a long history of contributing to the low carb community. They have done a ton of health consulting, speaking, writing of great books and cookbooks, and also built a large community around their blog and facebook. They have a lot of hands-on knowledge and experience working with people and with the ins and outs of implementing a great diet and healthy lifestyle. We got into some interesting details that haven’t come up on the podcast before like oxidative priority, being censored by a TV news show, butter chuggers, keto babies, the science of high carb diets, the Failed Environment Metabolic State, keto desserts, and a lot more. I just got back from our film tour when we recorded this, which will definitely be apparent during my frequent mentions of Mark Sisson. He’s a great guy and I want to be like him when I am in my mid 60s, running around with 20 years olds playing ultimate frisbee. His book Primal Blueprint got me started with all of this years ago and is a great read. He’ll be in the film along with a ton of great doctors and researchers. Please continue to support Food Lies on Indiegogo - we haven’t raised enough money to finish the film yet. By pre-ordering a copy or buying the “It’s what else you eat, not the meat” T-shirt you are directly helping this film’s creation and will be listed in the credits. We’re personally matching every dollar that is coming in, but we’re still behind. Thank you so much and here’s Maria and Craig. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Show Notes: They live in rural Wisconsin and hunt and smoke ribs Halle Berry is a fan of Maria’s keto cookbooks They wrote a great book called Keto. https://www.amazon.com/Keto-Complete-Ketogenic-including-Simplified/dp/1628602821 Oxidative priority: your body burns fuels in a specific order which is correlated to how much it can store of each, in reverse order Alcohol burns first, then exogenous ketones, protein, carbohydrate, and lastly fat Becoming fat adapted Many benefits, especially in athletics. Better mitochondrial efficiency Low carb longevity study and how bogus it is Quality of the fats and carbs are of utmost importance Studies show the majority of people lie in self-reported food studies Maria was asked not to talk about restricting cereal on a TV news show who’s major sponsor was a cereal company Nutrient density - animal foods far superior but because of the saturated fat and cholesterol they are demonized The sheath of our bones is made up of saturated fat When fat adapted you don’t lose muscle or bone mass when fasting Nutrient density!! It’s all about the animal products. Plants foods don’t hold a candle Obviously animal foods have way more bioavailable protein and nutrients as well People do keto wrong and make fat bombs and put butter in their coffee - you’re getting no nutrients and probably too many calories (you can overeat fat on keto) A piece of meat is naturally keto at about 70% fat Gluconeogenesis is a demand driven process If you eat too much protein and your insulin spikes it’s because you are insulin resistant If you’re insulin resistant, not only do you need to avoid carbs, sugar, and most fruit, but also too much fat with protein To reverse insulin resistance you need to shrink your fat cells so they aren't overstuffed and inflamed Can be skinny and still have diabetes To reverse you just need to get more fuel from your body than your diet Protein sparing modified fast - adequate protein, almost no carb, fat is a lever A lot of time a stall in weight loss is due to dairy consumption The great importance of sleep which even affects insulin resistance Unifying theory of nutrition Why is fat the preferred fuel source? How other diet work. Can a vegan diet work? Their experience with clients Vegans Maria works with trying to do keto are on antidepressants Protein from grains or soy can’t stimulate Mtor or muscle building Need complete proteins and amino acids (all found in animal products) Mother’s milk is high in cholesterol… so when does it become evil? Men lowering their cholesterol with statins often need Viagra Also, babies are constantly in ketosis for the breastfeeding years The label keto is kind of a fad right now, but the low carb high fat diet is the exact opposite of a fad and what we’ve been doing some version of it for all of human history Smart vegans understand it’s nutritionally inferior and say they wouldn’t do it while pregnant Vegan on the show Alone knew he had to eat animal foods to survive Fiber causes a lot of intestinal stress actually and we actually don’t even need it Make sure you’re getting enough salt - it isn’t bad How some people are able to tolerate carbs if they go low fat and whole foods enough It’s so hard to eat enough plant matter, vegans are basically just calorie restricting to lose weight or stay thin Ideal diet uses oxidative priority - eliminate a lot of the fuel sources, adequate protein, eat at a deficit without feeling hungry All diets come down to managing appetite Nothing tastes as good as healthy feels - you can have both eating this way Failed Environment Metabolic State Insulin, fat cells, and carb burners How do you execute this in modern society when everything is working against you? Maria made chipotle at home for half the cost and half the time it took for Craig to drive and get the real thing They make 15 racks of ribs at once and put them on the freezer There’s a perfect cross-section of foods I love and nutrient density, and it’s for a reason. Steak, salmon, eggs, sardines - delicious for a reason How to eat dessert and treats and still be healthy There’s some great sweeteners out there other than stevia like Swerve, and erythritol, and monk fruit Their awesome book is called Keto. https://www.amazon.com/Keto-Complete-Ketogenic-including-Simplified/dp/1628602821 Their blog http://mariamindbodyhealth.com Other site http://keto-adapted.com https://twitter.com/MariaEmmerich and https://instagram.com/MariaEmmerich and https://facebook.com/ketoadapted   Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg   Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Today we have a rare in-studio podcast with Mikhaila Peterson. You may have seen here on the news or in articles (where she is being attacked). Her and her dad Jordan Peterson eat an all meat diet which the mainstream media and doctors seem to have a giant problem with. This is just her story, and yes she has specific problems, but I think there’s value in hearing this and considering an elimination diet to see how you feel. You can always add back in foods slowly. You never know if you could be on a whole new plane of existence and feel that much more amazing if you eliminate foods that could be giving you problems. Also, I should say that I have no problem with the carnivore diet but believe it should be done from a more nose to tail approach. At least get some liver and bone broth in the mix. Just my 2 cents. Mikhaila came into the studio to film for a little segment of the Food Lies film. We did a relatively short podcast and then did some film-specific stuff. Please support the Food Lies by pre-ordering on Indiegogo. It’s the only way this film or even this podcast is possible. I’m keeping this ad-free because, as a podcast listener myself, I hate to interrupt good content with ads. So please know that pre-ordering the film and/or getting the Eat Meat t-shirt is a way of supporting us. http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Show notes Mikhaila is in SAPIEN Headquarters live in studio the day before she goes on the Joe Rogan podcast People don’t think of diet when they think of stuff like depressions, anxiety, arthritis, etc. when it is likely the first place we should be looking Her story of growing up with terrible health problems that went undiagnosed Had a pretty healthy diet until college Got laughed at by doctors when mom mentioned oranges caused a flare up Then got a rash that pushed it over the edge. Looked into celiac disease She started an elimination diet without knowing anything about food She accidentally started eating an autoimmune disease protocol diet Everything changed when she got pregnant Cut down from meat and salad to just meat Why didn’t doctors question what she was eating through all her visits over her life? She had her hip replaced and an ankle replaced as a child She has specific problems, so it’s in one way her specific circumstance, but in another, it’s representative of many people Slowly getting worse over the years without realizing it. The new norm is 20 pounds overweight Brain health: Depression, anxiety, Alzheimer’s, etc. Some people can cheat, but others have to be really strict with their diet Her dad is Jordan Peterson https://jordanbpeterson.com and has his own struggle with physical and mental problems People attack her and her dad and say it’s a placebo effect or they are lying, etc. Vegan propaganda Vitamin C and other vitamins, minerals, and bloodwork Adjusting to the all meat diet I had no cravings for sweets after only 2 days on carnivore Should all people try out an elimination diet? Even just cutting sugar and grains can make a world of difference. Also could lose soy and dairy she says All animal based diets and all plant based diets are equally extreme Eating this way is a lot easier and not hard to stick to Stefansson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilhjalmur_Stefansson Morning sickness could just be eating foods that don’t agree with you and your growing baby Pregnant women who crave meat or sardines - your body is telling you something We have the wrong message in America demonizing meat which we know is especially needed during pregnancy Meanwhile Germany has the correct message and has meat vending machines   Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg   Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Dr. Bill Schindler is the director of the Eastern Shore Food Lab at Washington College where he is also an associate professor of archaeology and anthropology.  Two years ago he co-hosted the National Geographic show The Great Human Race. He spent the last year abroad continuing his hands-on research and professional development by immersing himself and his family with indigenous and traditional groups around the world to learn about their food and diets.  As an experimental archaeologist and primitive technologist his specialties are in recreating technologies of the past to better interpret our ancestral diets. His current focus is learning how to translate the outcomes of that research into something meaningful for modern day diet and health and is working to fuse lessons from our ancestral dietary past with modern culinary arts to create a food system that is relevant, accessible and meaningful to modern Western life. We got into so many interesting things like the development of humans and how it tracked with food technology, drinking blood and milk with pastoral tribes in Africa, eating brains, ancient food preparation and hunting, my favorite topic - nutrient density, and so much more. It was so enlightening talking to him, I’ll stop talking now so you can have a listen. I have to mention the Food Lies film. Preorder on Indiegogo to support its creation and this podcast. Thanks! http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Show Notes Dr. Bill Schindler is a professor at Washington College in Maryland Director of Eastern Shore Food Lab https://www.washcoll.edu/departments/eastern-shore-food-lab/ His whole life has led up to his career and interests His dad took him into nature and he learned to deal with taking an animal’s life even though he didn’t enjoy it Also grew up with mom and grandmother in kitchen cooking - realized it was all connected Learned to hunt and make tools as our ancestors did He became what’s known as an experimental archeologist Almost every single primitive technology made is related to food. Every tool and invention was based on getting food, processing food, storing food THe realization of the different types of food processing made all the difference Food processing of the past all focused on INCREASING nutrient density All modern food processing focused on money savings, shipping, shelf life, etc. Modern food processing also DECREASES nutrient density Not everything new we do is bad though Dairy is a hot topic. Just because we didn’t always consume it or other mammals don't consume it past a certain time in their life, doesn't mean it’s not healthy (if you tolerate it) Everything changed 3.4 million years ago when we made the first tool Humans are one of the weakest species on the planet on our own Our bodies and brains were quite small before we created tools to access meat Our digestive systems are actually pretty inefficient. We need to process our food with tools and fire to feed our large brains We have bones from Ethiopia that have butcher marks on them from this time, as well as impact fractures to get bone marrow inside 2 million years ago the invention of fire and some other hunting techniques were monumental for our species Humans started off as scavengers Once we started actually hunting ourselves we had first access to the animals we killed so therefore all the most nutrient dense, choice parts like the organ meats, etc. Results in a huge increase in body and brain size and women catch up in size to men more We mimic other animals in techniques of acquiring and processing foods Our biology isn't set up to eat meat like other carnivores - humans are set up to use tools and technology to consume nutrient dense animal products As we changed our diets, our bodies adapted to it. Homo sapiens wouldn’t have made it 300,000 years ago if we didn’t develop these extensions of our physical form necessary to cook and process meat We have brains that require high quality animal fats to function What is domestication? Humans were the first domesticated species - we domesticated ourselves Our teeth got smaller as we started relying on processing food outside of our bodies If we had absolutely nothing and were left to survive, the first thing we’d have to do is create a tool or control fire. Our body can do almost nothing on it's own Our food technology tracked with our body and brain size over history Almost all our modern produce was at one point toxic Nobody knows our exact diet 300k years ago, but that doesn’t matter - we have certain nutritional requirements that were established We accomplished the impossible back then, but even more impossible we now have gotten ourselves obese and malnourished at the same time We’re using modern processing to create nutrient-free food and it is what we are basically programmed to seek out in the modern food environment He argued with a pediatrician who was demanding patients to drink skim milk We evolved away from our chimp ancestors who’s digestive systems were made for digesting a ton of plant matter When we became bipedal 5-7 million years ago, everything changed Apes have to eat all day long and have giant jaw muscles to do this and tiny brains Theories on why are brains doubled in size Fat was prized for all of history Eating the ENTIRE animal White meat chicken breasts are the least nutrient dense, newest, wackiest thing we could eat His family rule is kill the animal yourself or know the person who raised and killed it Farmers markets are key The advent of agriculture can clearly be seen in the fossil record with a decrease in physical size and brain size What’s the real problem with agriculture? How can we utilize modern agriculture and technology to feed the billions of earth today? Connect yourself to your food. Try foraging. Go hunting. Go to a butcher. Make the foods you like from scratch at least once. Know the story of food Focus on quality Animals are the most nutrient dense foods available, especially the organ meats, brains, marrow, etc. He spent a year abroad in places like Kenya and Mongolia and studied many hunter gatherers such as the Hadza He was with a group that brought down a genet cat and ate all the organs immediately They were continuously hunting and gathering and hide a very varied diet Picturesque physiques with wide, healthy jaws, white teeth, big smiles, almost prancing as they ran Just blood and milk diet for 6 months How to have a meaningful conversation about diet, health, and sustainability Took a year off to live with these cultures and wrote a book His TV show on NatGeo called The Great Human Race http://www.natgeotv.com/int/the-great-human-race We must use the lessons of the past to learn what to do now and the future He painstakingly made all the period-accurate clothes for the show by hand How did our ancient ancestors lived based on this knowledge? We weren’t “surviving” - we must have been thriving to be able to continue having many babies who could then propagate our species Food Lab https://www.washcoll.edu/departments/eastern-shore-food-lab/ His personal site http://ancestralinsight.com Follow all his work over the past year http://FoodEvolutions.org Twitter http://twitter.com/drbillschindler Join the Sapien Movement http://SapienMovement.com   Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg   Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Luis is a smart and level-headed guy that doesn't get caught up in a lot of dietary dogma. He has been helping people lose weight and get in better shape for many, many years. He’s the cofounder of an awesome community called Ketogains. You need to google some photos of him to make sure you appreciate the advice he gives. He definitely is proving you can gain muscle on a keto diet even though most people believe you need a ton of carbs to do so. Take a listen and I think you’ll enjoy his simple message, which is definitely not just for people trying to get swole. I’ve gained muscle on somewhat of a ketogenic diet over past 6 months and just released a video on youtube showing all the details because a lot of people have been asking about it. We also are back on Indiegogo with new “It’s what else you eat, not the meat” shirts and now unisex tank tops. We still need your support to make the Food Lies film happen. My production partner and I are matching every dollar that comes in, but we still have a ways to go to reach the full budget. Thanks so much and enjoy the episode. Preorder Food Lies http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Show Notes Luis is the co-founder of KetoGains.com but it’s not all about bodybuilding. It’s more about nutrition and staying fit and many clients are middle aged women. It’s not only low carb all the time, but it’s usually better His story of being chubby as a kid, then skinny as a teen Used a low carb approach to gain muscle after college Fat is a lever His rhyme: Protein is a goal to make you grow, carbs are a limit to stay below, and fat is a fuel so you are not slow Don't chase ketones, chase results You don’t really need to be measuring ketone levels unless you are using keto in a therapeutic context to treat a disease What is the role of protein and how much do you actually need? Gluconeogenesis Just eat nutrient dense foods and don’t worry about counting calories or ketones Your body doesn't know what you are deficient in Can be malnourished and obese at the same time Answer is nutrient dense foods Can’t replace one bad habit with another At some point you have to reduce calories one way or another Our ancestors managed calories naturally Prehistoric fruits were much different in edible mass and lower sugar People thinking baked apple pie with agave is part of a healthy paleo diet Need to change your relationship with food Got no time for keto breads and cheats Food has become and entertainment industry. Scientifically developed to make you eat. Cheesecake exists - it's your job to eat it responsibly Cost is not an excuse - eating healthy can actually be cheaper Can easily eat for $5-7 per day Sardines are cheap, delicious, and super nutrient dense Luis’s best sources of protein and vegetables More efficient metabolism when very fat adapted and eating low carb for a long time Evolutionary perspective on getting the most energy from things we do You can pig out at a bbq and just make it a warrior meal and not have to eat again for 22 hours and you’ll be fine Intermittent fasting and condensed eating windows, or as he calls it “intelligent intermittent fasting” Training fasted is not good for building muscle Appropriate feasting after fasting Gaining muscle on a ketogenic diet Insulin is a nutrient transport signaling hormone Can you lose weight and/or remain thin while building muscle at the same time? What about people new to lifting weights? Compound lifts - multi-joint exercises. Bayesian Bodybuilding Can actually train every muscle group 5 times per week for more gains Training each muscle group separately is known as the “bro split” He has 3 routines that he cycles through, each focusing on a lift, but includes full body Cardio myths It’s way more about diet than exercise Going to failure? “That which cannot be measured, cannot be managed” using apps or notebooks to track weights and routines You need to push yourself each week and constantly be adding weight   Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg   Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Dr. Georgia Ede is a psychiatrist, researcher, and an advocate of nutrition and diet as an alternative approach to standard medications. She’s also a speaker and writer and although has spent much time working and taking courses at Harvard, she has not fallen into their plant based diet dogma. She, in fact, researchers plants and some of their negative effects in a human diet. It really seems counterintuitive to most, but there is hard science out there about this. People are curing diseases and their depression and anxiety by cutting out certain plant foods. She’s also an expert on Alzheimer’s and how what we eat affects the onset of this scary disease which we get into a little. We also do some more debunking of studies including the new low carb and longevity study as well as that old WHO study trying to claim red meat causes cancer. Please listen carefully to this important and eye-opening episode. I really enjoyed my discussion with her and she provides a lot of great information. We’re in the last 24 hours of the Food Lies Indiegogo campaign so please preorder the film there now to make sure you get it. Backers will receive the film a couple months early and there’s a bunch of other perks you can get as well. You’ll get your name in the credits as a backer of the film as well as options like the “It’s what else you eat, not the meat” t shirt and the special features bonus footage. THanks so much for supporting us in this project. It really is a lot of work and we’re not accepting outside funding - only from people like you. Ok now enjoy the show! http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Show notes Georgia had 2-3 hours of nutritional education over 4 years of medical school and didn’t receive any nutritional education while studying to be a psychiatrist for 4 years Nutritional epidemiology dominates most of the nutritional studies in the world Plant foods contain antinutrients and lack key brain nutrients, Dha, B-12   Refined carbs are mood destabilizers It is possible that chemicals that plants use to protect themselves can exacerbate mental health conditions by entering the bloodstream   Plant seeds are the most heavily defended part of plants, have lectins and phytic acid which makes it hard for us to digest them Georgia has recommended an animal based diet as an all natural approach to treating depression Spinach contains iron that we can’t absorb Sugar rushes to the brain which makes it hard for insulin to cross the brain, this is a contributor to alzheimer's phytic acid is considered an anti nutrient, however it also fights cancer and prevents iron overloads in people Vitamins D, E, A, and K are all fat-soluble Two types of fiber, soluble and insoluble   Her article in Psychology Today about the The Antioxidant Myth https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/diagnosis-diet/201712/the-antioxidant-myth Pom Wonderful does more harm than good with a huge load of sugar and a few antioxidants that aren't even bioavailable Sulforaphane, curcumin, oxidation, and free radicals Alzheimer’s and type 3 diabetes - it’s all about the insulin! Harvard School of Public Health has a goal to try to find a way to show meat is bad and promote grains as much as possible Epidemiology is the only area of science that has any indication that red meat is bad for you The one study the WHO put out on red meat being bad is based on very poor quality studies and only 2 are clinical trials in humans that don’t really show anything Debunking the new low carb decreases lifespan study Low carb group wasn't even low carb. There’s also way too many variables to make any conclusions THe whole hypothesis that meat would be cancerous is ludicrous in the first place Dr. Walter Willet defends nutritional epidemiology Harvard School of Public Health’s agenda If you eat all plant based diet you’re a healthy hero, if you eat all animal based diet you’re a deranged madman. They’re both extreme and both sides think they are completely correct and all the world’s problems would be solved if everyone went on their diet. http://DiagnosisDiet.com Twitter @GeorgiaEdeMD   Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post     Film site: http://FoodLies.org Podcast site: http://peak-human.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg   Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Ok everyone, we’re back early! The Harvard studies and researchers need debunking. Low carb diets reduce lifespan? Coconut oil is pure poison? I’ve had enough of this insanity. Not only is Monsanto funding a lot of their studies, but I think they really believe this vegan stuff and it’s turning them into bad scientists. Good scientists don’t have pre-existing beliefs and they should work to disprove their theories. I think they need some more saturated fat in their diet to help their brains work better. So I got Dr. Bret Scher, who is an intellectual powerhouse to help debunk their nonsense. He’s a cardiologist, a speaker, a podcaster, a scholar, and a gentleman. So let’s kick off season 2 with a bang. I’ve been planning and searching for guests for the past couple months and have talked to some really interesting people so far. This is going to be good everyone, looking forward to it. Don’t forget we’re on Indiegogo trying to raise some more money for post-production. We need this movie to look as good as all the information that it provides - so don’t make me try to edit this myself. Let’s rally the troops and make this happen together! http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Show Notes   It is hard for the average person to decipher what a scientific study is really saying, therefore people have to rely on news outlets Low-Carb diets can shorten life expectancy study Similar study in 2010, these studies just follow various individuals for many years and see who gets certain medical conditions and look for associations Low-Carb and longevity study looked at low carb diets in which 37% of calories came from carbs, these are not true low carb diets The collected data from this study was drawing associations rather than causations This study includes a paragraph stating how at baseline the individuals on low carb diets tended to smoke more, exercise less, and were a higher percentage at diabetics (they were less healthy from the beginning of the study and the study cannot control these factors) This study only collected data twice and asked participants to fill out a questionnaire based on what they can remember about what they ate over the course of the past several years Senator McGovern’s warnings High fat diet causes diabetes study, mice were force fed crisco and got diabetes Harvard researcher talking about saturated fat in coconut oil https://www.theguardian.com/food/2018/aug/22/coconut-oil-is-pure-poison-says-harvard-professor Minnesota coronary experiment Sydney diet heart study       Carrie Diulus LDL responds to injury in the vessel wall LDL to HDL ratio is a far more effective way to measure cholesterol rather than just being frightened by a high LDL     Low carb approach is not one size fits all, however all doctors should at least consider it as a potential tool Making it financially viable to actually take care of patients in big healthcare institutions   Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg   Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Today we’re hearing from Gary Taubes who I got a chance to interview for Food Lies a couple months ago when he was in LA. Gary is an investigative science and health journalist who for the past 20 years has been questioning the bad science that’s been done along with the mainstream nutritional wisdom. He’s written some groundbreaking articles in the New York Times and has written multiple best selling books. He’s won various awards for his journalism and is a real authority on nutrition science  so it was a treat to hear his musings on all of this. He generously lent me 2 hours of his time so we covered a lot - there’s a ton of links in the show notes. We get into some interesting details at the end so stick around. This actually will be the last episode of the season. I already have an almost fully booked next season of episodes and have begun interviewing. There will be a a little break because these episodes are a lot of work even if it doesn’t seem like it. I’ll also be busy for a couple weeks on a film tour across the US next week followed by some other filming and editing. The big news is we are starting a new crowdfunding campaign as of today, this time on Indiegogo. Too many people missed out on pre-ordering the film and have been reaching out to me. You also can’t make a documentary on the $30k we did on Indiegogo. So please support us by searching for Food Lies on Kickstarter.com or clicking through from the show notes. Now here’s Gary. Pre-order the film on Indiegogo http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post     Show Notes   Nutrition science is almost impossible to do well and people become almost religious about their pet theories Good Calories, Bad Calories https://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Science/dp/1400033462/ Historical context of good science and then nutrition science Vilhjalmur Stefansson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilhjalmur_Stefansson Dr. Shawn Baker and thousands of carnivores http://MeatHeals.com My call with Professor Daniel Lieberman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Lieberman Fiber Thomas L. (Peter) Cleave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_L._Cleave Sir Richard Doll https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Doll Burkitt’s Lymphoma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burkitt%27s_lymphoma Interviewing doctors who prescribe low carb diets Most people understand what a healthy diet is supposed to be and that they should exercise Calories in vs. calories out analogy Eat more, move less Why We Get Fat: And What to do About It https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259/ Why do obese people’s body hang onto fat while skinny people’s bodies don’t. This is the question that needs to be asked Hormones Psychologists and psychiatrists used to be the ones looking at obesity - why do they eat so much? The study of obesity was somehow divorced from the basic science of endocrinology Group think What kind of studies can we make to prove this? But sugar calories are different Cold fusion fiasco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion Bad Science book https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Science-Short-Weird-Fusion/dp/0394584562 Francis Bacon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon “You start accumulating evidence to prove you were right all along” Philosophising on vegan diets and longevity Can we ever know the answers? How fat works on a cellular level How do very low fat diets even work? Are vegans more starch tolerant? Why is sugar uniquely fattening and not just another calorie The Case Against Sugar https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Sugar-Gary-Taubes/dp/0307701646 Salt and what we got wrong http://science.sciencemag.org/content/281/5379/898 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/opinion/sunday/we-only-think-we-know-the-truth-about-salt.html? More Daniel Lieberman bogus ideas Earliest humans probably ate high fat large animals Are we making progress? Swiss Re conference http://institute.swissre.com/events/food_for_thought_bmj.html This giant re-insurance company has a lot to gain financially if they figure out what the right diet is to prevent or cure diabetes is Smart people and good scientists ask questions and don’t speak in absolutes A theory is supposed to get stronger with time, not weaker. So why is there a new headline every week, showing another exception? Fat is bad paradigm gets weaker and weaker Send topics and questions for the “Meeting of the minds” with Gary Taubes, Prof. Tim Noakes, Nina Teicholz, and Dom D’Agostino to me @FoodLiesOrg on Twitter and @food.lies on Instagram Pre-order the film on Indiegogo http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org Podcast site: http://peak-human.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg   Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

Today we have Peter Ballerstedt who has a Phd in forage production and utilization. He’s also an expert in ruminant nutrition (this means cows, sheep, bison, etc.) He travels around the US and world giving lectures on the necessity and benefits of animal agriculture, for the health of our environment and human nutrition. I love him because he presents facts that go against the mainstream narrative and the animal rights propaganda that is absolutely rampant and taking over the conversation. He’s one of the only voices we have, so appreciate him and listen to his wise words. You may have noticed I skipped a week putting out episodes - I had to prep for our upcoming film tour and make the Shawn Baker and Ted Naiman videos - check them out on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies It’s the last days of the Food Lies film Indiegogo campaign - please pre-order the film. It’s the only way to be sure to be able to get it and share it with family and friends. It could take months to get to Netflix or never even make it there. Who knows. Just know you’ll likely get the film  3 months in advance if you pre-order now on Indiegogo before the campaign ends on August 10th.  http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post I really appreciate all the support so far, we can’t do it without you all. Let’s hear what the leader of the Ruminant Revolution has to say.   Show notes What Peter does for a living - forage agronomist Eating beef is not only good for you, it is in fact good for the environment as well. All cows spend the majority of their life on pasture The facts around animal agriculture are skewed and basically the opposite of what the mainstream narrative has led us to believe We’re removed from the entire process of raising animals Very small and well-funded minority of animal rights activists with the loudest voices They claim the majority of the land is used for animal agriculture. The truth is there’s 4 times as much rangeland we can use for cows or other ruminants that can’t be used for crops The vegan rope starts unraveling Wildly exaggerated claims of environmental impact if we ate less meat Let’s look at insulinemia and diabetes Animal agriculture more greenhouse gas emissions than transportation based on a flawed and retracted study Cows aren't alchemists. The CO2 containing compounds they release came from the grass they are which got it's CO2 from the atmosphere. They’re finding it harder and harder to try to claim eating meat is bad for you so they’re trying harder and harder to claim it’s bad for the environment Don’t feel guilty if you’re eating some or all animal products in your diet and restoring your health If you haven't heard of Mikhaila Peterson http://mikhailapeterson.com here’s an articel https://www.healthline.com/health-news/meat-only-diet-eased-autoimmune-disease-symptoms#7 Jordan Peterson talks about his carnivore diet on Joe Rogan’s podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGikB-54Lwk We talk about soil health The role of ruminants in reducing agriculture's carbon footprint in North America http://www.jswconline.org/content/71/2/156.short Climate change and CO2 How the carbon cycle actually works with grasses and grazing cows CO2 helps plants to grow faster The great horse manure crisis of 1894 https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Great-Horse-Manure-Crisis-of-1894/ plant protein and micronutrient content is far less than animal equivalent Study with oysters, beans, and corn tortillas showing zinc absorption https://www.researchgate.net/publication/22684528_Studies_on_the_bioavailability_of_zinc_in_man_II_Absorption_of_zinc_from_inorganic_sources We can study the diet and outcomes of animals and make lots of conclusions, but can’t do that for humans “Our animals have never been healthier, and humans have never been sicker” Modern societies are dependent on ruminant animals. We need to meet the growing need for animal protein with the growing population. For an ancient food to cause a modern disease is ludicrous The danger of nitrates and nitrites has been debunked Omega 3 and Omega 6 What’s going on with this carnivore thing? All plant diets = healthy hero. All meat diet = insane person who’s going to die “Diet for a Small Planet” and “Population Bomb” Lab grown meat How’d the margarine experiment go? Can you really replicate all the intricacies of meat? It's not just a protein matrix. Do we trust the makers to even get the ratios of fat/protein correct? Ruminants are part of the lifecycle of grasslands and soil health, we shouldn’t exclude them. Essential for watersheds, carbon cycle - what’s their replacement? We shouldn't put a big portion of our food supply into the hands of one company that gets the patent or a few big companies Where are the nutrients going to come from? They’re starting from a false nutritional premise What about other wealth generation from cows, especially in developing countries What about the energy it would take to cool and produce all this lab grown meat? Same thing that’s going on in the healthcare system - we’re making a medication for each disease instead of treating the root problem Eating beef is beneficial to you and the environment Buy the animal products you can afford to feed yourself and your family and don’t let the other side and their fear-mongering influence you.   Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg   Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

One of my favorite humans I have never met in person, Lierre Keith, shares a ton of information with us today. We talked for almost 2 hours and could have gone longer. You may recognize her from the Netflix film The Magic Pill - she was a hardcore vegan for 20 years and lived the lifestyle with passion. I won’t give away everything, but she wholeheartedly enjoys animal products now and wrote a book that thoroughly refutes the three major tenets vegans and vegetarians stand on. They claim a plant based diet is better morally, better for the environment, and superior nutritionally. As I know, and you at home probably are aware of by now, the opposite is true on all accounts.   We also bring up the Sapien Movement near the end as a way to join together and fight the vegan propaganda, spread the truth, and work to improve the way we do agriculture and human nutrition. The site is live at SapienMovement.com and you can also find the group on Facebook and the twitter and instagram accounts, all under that name. The goal is to “End industrial agriculture and eat ancestrally” - other than that, It’s not defined yet. Join us and help us figure out what we can do to make a difference.   As we speak, I’m in San Diego filming with some awesome researchers and doctors. We still really need your help if you haven’t pre-ordered or contributed to the film - it’s called Food Lies and it’s on http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Thanks so much to everyone who has supported us so far. Let’s hear from Lierre!   Show notes: How she got caught in the vegan ideology Body began to degrade, but she ignored it due to beliefs Blood sugar and insulin problems Not getting enough protein, fat, or cholesterol Honeymoon of phase where veganism works Her spine and joints started falling apart Skin problems, reproductive problems Nasty soy and hormone problems Damaged stomach and can’t produce proper acid Reach out to her at http://lierrekeith.com if you are a vegan and having problems Her book The Vegetarian Myth begins with breakin down the moral argument Where we went wrong with salt https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/08/health/salt-health-effects.html Plants are beginning to become dependant on humans to plant them because they are too big, humans have to clear land Monocropping only takes from land, plants don’t give back and chemicals/fossil fuel is required in large amounts Most vegans don’t understand the negative traits of monocropping The water table has dropped far due to monocropping, oil drilling is used to get to the water Ruminants and grass coevolved Cows should not be fed corn Cows stimulate the growth of grass Bison make mini wetlands with their horns by stabbing land above water E. coli is a result of factory farming and over usage of antibiotics Cowspiracy is not based on real evidence and some of the individuals involved admitted they were wrong It is hard to present facts to groups of individuals who are always convinced that their ideology is correct despite what any evidence points to Grow your own food to reduce carbon footprint Lierre talks about her gardening experience/realization about the cycle of life Many vitamins are only available in animal fat Some individuals need to eat meat because they can’t make the enzyme that converts the vitamin a found in carrots There is not any plant source for vitamin B12, this has caused physical harm to some vegans such as damaged vision or hearing Omega-3’s and omega-6’s get converted into fats USDA used to not even consider soy a food Studies showing higher mortality rates for people using vegetable oils [LINK] Big health organizations have admitted that they have made mistakes when telling us what to eat The govt. is subsidizing the worst food for us, corn, wheat and soy Wheat is addictive 1800 marks the beginning of the fossil fuel age Agriculture requires intensive labor and is resulting in poor nutrition Lierre talks about agriculture during the age of empires to explain some of the negative traits of agriculture that are still relevant today Phytoestrogens in soy are harmful Soy consumption among children contributes to precocious puberty Soy disrupts the hippocampus which can lead to memory problems The Japanese eat soy as a condiment rather than as a protein substitute Quick overview of what Weston Price did Overview of “Nutrition and Physical Degeneration” Vegans have to cheat on their diet to maintain health Discussion about the two different metabolic states humans can exist in Noticed less low fat products when filming B-roll at the store It’s all about information - we know fast food and sugar are bad This Sapien Movement is a real thing. Go to http://SapienMovement.com and @SapienMovement on twitter and Instagram, and join the private Facebook group I talk more and more about her book and how everyone should read it - find it at http://lierrekeith.com   Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Film site: http://FoodLies.org Podcast site: http://peak-human.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg   Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/