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WealthTech on Deck is a show featuring meaningful conversations with financial services leaders. Our host, Jack Sharry, engages financial services executives that are solving specific challenges around fintech ecosystems and household wealth technology.
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Oct 15, 2024 • 35min
WealthTech in the Weeds with Eric Lordi and Martin Cowley
WealthTech in the Weeds is a series covering the broad yet critical path to financial services. The goal is to get together with industry experts and get into the details of building an effective, productive, coordinated, and comprehensive advice system.Comprehensive advice platforms have been a significant development in wealth management. They streamline portfolio management, optimize returns, and enhance investors' financial efficiency. However, implementing these platforms has its challenges. As technology continues to reshape the industry, the lessons and experiences learned from early adopters provide invaluable insights that significantly impact the industry's future and empower investors to achieve their financial goals.In this episode, Jack is joined by Eric Lordi and Martin Cowley. Eric is the Managing Director at J.P. Morgan and has extensive experience in wealth and asset management. He builds modern wealth management systems that deliver better client outcomes and embraces goals-based investing.Martin is the Chief Product Officer at LifeYield and has more than 14 years of experience building comprehensive wealth management platforms. In his role, Martin oversees product strategy for portfolio rebalancing, tax optimization, and retirement income, using LifeYield's API-first product suite to address a wide range of client needs. Martin has worked with numerous firms to help them integrate and optimize their systems for improved user experience and financial outcomes.Eric and Martin talk with Jack about the challenges, benefits, and lessons learned from building comprehensive advice platforms. They dive into the importance of multi-account management, asset location, and tax optimization in improving clients' financial outcomes. The conversation also touches on the operational aspects of implementing these platforms and the need for integration and coordination across different systems. In this episode:
[02:25] -The challenges and goals of building a modern wealth management system.
[04:27] - Lessons Martin learned during the early days of LifeYield.
[06:17] - The dynamics of multi-account management.
[09:22] - How LifeYield coordinates and optimizes multiple accounts.
[12:50] - Asset location and its importance in generating tax efficiency.
[15:55] - How asset location adds tax efficiency across different account programs.
[20:05] - The operational challenges of implementing asset location.
[22:20] - The three types of withdrawals and how they need to operate.
[29:22] - The purpose of tax management systems.
Quotes[02:54] - "We're currently in a world where lots of products and programs have been built vertically over time. How do you start to think horizontally from an advisor standpoint? The biggest mental shift is just moving from an account-based structure to a relationship-based one." ~ Eric Lordi[10:17] - "Coordinating isn't just about getting the sum of the parts and then working with them. It's about recognizing that some parts fit together better than others." ~ Martin Cowley[14:08] - "Tax management isn't just tax slots. It's the location and having a machine that is not dependent on underlying trading systems but looks across all these things as holdings that we can score anywhere." ~ Eric Lordi[30:47] - "Everything we've done has to be flexible because we are looking across multiple companies and client firms. It doesn't have to all be stitched tightly on day one. Those walls aren't going to break down overnight. So, we're building little tunnels between the silos." ~ Martin CowleyLinks
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J.P. Morgan Private Bank
Morgan Stanley
55ip
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Oct 8, 2024 • 31min
WealthTech in the Weeds with Ted Dimig and Mark Hoffman
WealthTech in the Weeds is a series in which we talk to industry experts about the details of building an effective, productive, coordinated, and comprehensive advice system.In this episode, Jack Sharry talks with Ted Dimig, Global Head of Wealth Management Advisory Solutions at J.P. Morgan, and Mark Hoffman, CEO, Chairman & Founder at LifeYield.They discuss trends like tax optimization and the role of modern technology in enhancing advisory practices. They explore the challenges and strategies involved in operationalizing these innovations, emphasizing the necessity of embracing technology to improve client outcomes. They also touch on advisor adoption, the benefits of models-based practices, and the industry's trajectory toward increasingly personalized financial services.In this episode:
[02:05] - Major trends in asset management
[03:56] - Ted's role in fintech
[06:11] - The importance of tax optimization in the investment ecosystem
[09:29] - Ted's operational approach to tax management
[11:41] - How LifeYield helps clients manage their taxes
[13:51] - Why tax matters to clients and advisors
[16:31] - How firms can get started with tax management
[20:43] - What drives advisors to adopt tax-smart technologies
[25:15] - Ted's outlook on the future of wealth management
[27:14] - Ted's key takeaways
[28:23] - Ted's interests outside of work
Quotes[02:22] - "The first big trend in asset management is the importance and the need to personalize investments. The more you can get a client's goals to match their investment solutions, the higher the probability that they're going to stick with their investments over the long run." ~ Ted Dimig[11:42] - "You want to build your ecosystem in a way that is easy to explain to the client. Being able to explain to them the savings and why you're doing certain things reduces the trading that you have to do." ~ Mark Hoffman[17:11] - "Technology allows you to be more holistic. It allows you to make all the connections and to do things right. And that frees up the advisor to have a conversation at the client's own level." ~ Mark Hoffman[26:06] - "You need to embrace technology if you want to be a winner in the personalization space, in the end-to-end client investment journey, and in the tax space. So those who don't adopt will be left behind." ~ Ted DimigLinks
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Oct 1, 2024 • 25min
Building a Winning Culture with John Drahzal
Leadership is more than titles and responsibilities. It involves building a winning culture—a culture that isn't just a tagline or value statement but a living, breathing system encompassing a firm's operations. It is a culture where individuals collectively achieve extraordinary results. Organizations that embrace this kind of culture promote honesty and transparency, empower employees to contribute their unique perspectives, and are united by a shared vision.In this episode, Jack Sharry talks with John Drahzal, President and CEO at Horizon Investments. John oversees the company's growth and acquisition initiatives and all aspects of the company's operations, which includes investment management, consulting, sales and marketing, technology, finance, and legal. He joined Horizon Investments in 2017 and previously served as President. John and Jack discuss leadership and how a winning culture drives success. John talks about how Horizon Investment builds its culture and operating principles and the importance of the human element in wealth management.In this episode:
[02:19] - How John got into financial services
[08:55] - John's transition to CEO
[10:39] - Horizon Investment operating principles
[17:34] - How a winning culture drives innovation
[19:41] - John's thoughts on the future of the industry
[21:25] - John's key takeaways
[22:09] - John's interests outside of work
Quotes[13:04] - "Leadership is about building a winning culture. It's a culture that drives success and where people will work together." ~ John Drahzal[16:29] - "If you instill this culture of coaching and winning through culture, and the employees develop in that culture, it is amazing to see what they can do. Watching that development is amazing." ~ John Drahzall[20:56] - "While the firm will drive efficiencies with technology, I firmly believe that this will continue to be a people-led business and that humans need that because these are really important decisions. We're responsible for their dreams. And that requires the human element." ~ John DrahzalLinks
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Horizon Investments
Victory Capital
Robbie Cannon
Trillion Dollar Coach
Danielle Learned
Money Management Institute
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Sep 24, 2024 • 40min
Navigating the Future of Wealth Tech: Insights from 150+ Industry Leaders with Jack Sharry
Over the past three years, Jack Sharry has hosted the WealthTech on Deck podcast, featuring interviews with some of the best and brightest financial services leaders. Through these conversations, Jack has learned valuable lessons that will shape the future of the retirement industry.In this episode, we flip the script as Jack takes the guest seat, and Matt Nollman, VP of Marketing at LifeYield, hosts the show. They discuss the evolution of the retirement industry, reflecting on 150+ episodes of the podcast. They cover key lessons such as the rise of Unified Managed Households (UMH), the critical importance of tax management, and strategies for organic growth. They also discuss the transformative potential of AI in wealth management, and share valuable career advice, emphasizing the power of deep, intentional listening.In this episode:
[02:33] - Five lessons from 150+ wealth tech leaders
[05:33] - Unified Managed Household (UMH) Explained
[10:25] - Why firms invest so much in tax management technology
[15:41] - Four factors consumers look for when planning their finances
[18:12] - Top firms that grow organically and how they do it
[23:22] - The role of technology and AI in financial services
[31:14] - Jack's key takeaways
[34:58] - Jack's advice for aspiring industry leaders
Quotes[10:49] - "Studies show that the biggest cost investors incur is taxes. So, if you're going to improve outcome, you have to figure out how to minimize tax and maximize outcome, whether for accumulation or income." ~ Jack Sharry[15:45] - "The top four things consumers are looking for are tax planning, retirement planning, investment management, and cash flow planning. So, what they're looking for is to reduce paying taxes." ~ Jack Sharry[16:11] - "If you're going to improve the outcome, it's a multi-account exercise. You can't improve one account at a time. You need to do it in a coordinated fashion." ~ Jack SharryLinks
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Retirement Leadership Forum
FA Mag
Edmund Murphy
Empower
Natalie Wolfsen
Orion Advisors Solutions
Jed Finn
Morgan Stanley
Rose Palazzo
Edward Jones
Aaron Schumm
Vestwell
Jasmine Jirele
Allianz Life
John Thiel
Merrill Lynch
Envestnet
Vanguard
EY
Morningstar
55ip
Chip Roame
Tiburon Strategic Advisors
Fidelity Investments
Charles Schwab
Amy Young
Microsoft
Rob Pettman
TIFIN
Jud Mackrill
Milemarker
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Sep 17, 2024 • 32min
The Legends of WealthTech with Paul Hatch
The Legends of WealthTech is a series about the history and evolution of the advisory business, featuring professionals who have powerfully shaped the industry.This week, Jack talks with Paul Hatch, Founding Partner and CEO at Vestria Capital. Paul oversees the firm's strategic vision, operations, and growth. Before becoming an entrepreneur, Paul held senior leadership roles at Citibank, UBS, and Morgan Stanley, responsible for developing and managing a wide range of investment products, services, and markets for the wealth management divisions.Jack and Paul talk about the history of managed money, its growth from a niche offering to a cornerstone of modern wealth management, and how it drove the evolution of industry giants. They also discuss the cultural integration challenges during mergers and acquisitions and how client-centric advisory services overcome these hurdles.In this episode:
[01:28] - How Paul got started in the advisory industry
[04:01] - Paul's transition to managed money
[10:27] - The evolution of managed money
[16:15] - Cultural challenges
[20:09] - Paul's career transition from large firms to independent ventures
[24:44] - Vestria Capital's role in the advisory space
[27:33] - Paul's key takeaways
[28:49] - Paul's interest outside of work
Quotes[11:34] - "UMAs showed they were a better solution for the clients. It brought costs down, and most importantly, it meant that you were managing as a portfolio, not as a series of asset classes." ~ Paul Hatch[17:55] - "When you raise your right hand and swear that you are going to do what is best for the client, that's really what advisory business is all about." ~ Paul Hatch [22:46] - "I don't think it's enough that you service clients. You have to show them the results." ~ Paul HatchLinks
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Vestria Capital
Citi Bank
UBS
Morgan Stanley
Len Reinhart
Frank Campanale
Money Management Institute
Roger Paradiso
James Gorman
Jed Finn
Ben Huneke
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Sep 10, 2024 • 29min
WealthTech in the Weeds with Jeff Benfield and Martin Cowley
WealthTech in the Weeds is a series covering the broad yet critical path to financial services. The goal is to get together with industry experts and get into the details of building an effective, productive, coordinated, and comprehensive advice system.In this episode, Jack talks with Jeff Benfield, Head of Advisor Solutions at SEI, and Martin Cowley, Chief Product Officer at LifeYield. Jeff leads the strategic vision, roadmap, and execution of the financial advisor technology suite of solutions for SEI's independent advisor business. With a focus on relationship-centric platform architecture, Jeff has been instrumental in developing SEI's Wealth Platform, leading the charge in building a multi-account, multi-relationship approach to empower advisors.Martin brings vast experience working with various firms to build comprehensive and coordinated platforms. With a focus on API-first architecture, he helps firms integrate seamlessly and avoid the pitfalls of disparate systems.Jack talks with Jeff and Martin about building multi-account, multi-factor relationship platforms for advisors. Jeff and Martin highlight the challenges and importance of operationalizing complex systems at scale and their strategies for connecting and empowering advisors with more innovative tools and platforms.In this episode:
[02:17] - SEI's approach to building a multi-account UMH platform
[06:02] - How SEI helps advisors achieve better results
[08:32] - How LifeYield uses technology to enhance the user experience
[11:15] - The importance of partnerships in building platforms for advisors
[14:47] - How LifeYied addresses multicurrency and tax in the US and UK
[17:26] - How SEI overcomes the challenge of scaling and operationalizing UMH
[19:40] - LifeYield's approach to operationalizing UMH
[21:52] - Jeff's key takeaways
[24:23] - Martin's key takeaways
Quotes[22:16] - "Tax is the center of what we do. Our ability to lean into that to make sure that we're the platform best suited to solve that problem of the household balance sheet and how we're able to solve the tax problem is where we're going." ~ Jeff Benfield[22:30] - "Utilizing and leveraging the technology that's built and currently coming out to make those smart tools, make them intelligent, and give that personalized feel is where we're leaning into." ~ Jeff Benfield[24:23] - "The move towards householding is happening, and it's widespread. SEI is far ahead in that front just with the new system being built, and the fact that it's multicurrency, multi-jurisdiction is just icing on the cake. It's very powerful." ~ Martin Cowley[25:46] - "It's always good to pick something that's valuable, focus on that, and support people in using it, so they understand the incremental benefit they're getting." ~ Martin CowleyLinks
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Sep 3, 2024 • 26min
The Legends of WealthTech with Arlen Oransky
In this episode, Jack talks with Arlen Oransky, Executive Vice President and Chief Membership Officer at Money Management Institute (MMI). With more than 30 years of experience in the financial industry, Arlen has been instrumental in shaping its growth and evolution. He has significantly contributed to expanding MMI's membership and programs and is known for his behind-the-scenes influence and dedication to promoting industry collaboration and education.Jack and Arlen talk about the historical development of separately managed accounts (SMAs). He shares how MMI grew from a small group of SMA advocates to a robust institution representing the broader advisory solutions market. Arlen also discusses the firm's educational efforts to prepare the next generation of industry leaders and the collaborative approach MMI fosters among asset managers, wealth managers, and solutions providers to drive industry growth and innovation.In this episode:
[03:35] - The evolution of separately managed accounts (SMAs)
[06:56] - How MMI has fueled SMA growth
[08:37] - Growth and Evolution of MMI
[13:41] - MMI's initiative for engaging and educating asset managers
[15:44] - Reflections and personal stories
[18:32] - The evolution of comprehensive advisory services
[21:48] - Arlen's key takeaways and interests outside of work
Quotes[07:13] - "MMI's mandate expanded just above and beyond what we were doing back in the day. It was all around enabling and facilitating industry dialogue and industry growth. And that's at the forefront of where we are now." ~ Arlen Oransky[20:44] - "We want to help create a legacy not only for the Money Management Institute but, more importantly, for individuals who are going to carry this industry forward." ~ Arlen Oransky[22:05] - "Stay educated. Feel free to get outside your comfort zone. That's the only way that you're going to advance and learn." ~ Arlen OranskyLinks
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Money Management Institute
John Thiel
Noreen Beaman
Cheryl Nash
InvestCloud
Lori Hardwick
Len Reinhart
Jim Seuffert
Roger Paradiso
Franklin Templeton Investments
Craig Pfeiffer
John Coyne
Phoenix Investment Partners
Robbie Cannon
Horizon Investments
Thrive | Money Management Institute
Steve Gresham
The New Managed Account Solutions Handbook
Tim Williams
Adri Chocolates
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Aug 20, 2024 • 36min
Developing the Future Leaders of Wealth Management with Tim Williams
In this episode, Jack talks with Tim Williams, Executive Vice President of Education Initiatives at the Money Management Institute (MMI). Tim is a seasoned business strategist with a proven track record in steering cross-functional teams to deliver innovative solutions. With more than three decades of experience in wealth and asset management, he brings deep expertise in business strategy, innovation, change management, and professional development.Jack and Tim discuss MMI’s professional development programs, highlighting initiatives designed to sharpen leadership skills and open doors for career advancement within the industry. Tim also shares his insights on cultivating a growth mindset, the importance of continuous learning, and the value of building a strong network of industry experts.In this episode:
[01:30] - Tim's career path in asset and wealth management
[06:09] - How Tim transitioned into the development side of wealth management
[07:41] - Tim's current projects at MMI
[10:42] - MMI's mentorship program
[14:30] - MMI's upcoming development program
[17:13] - How Tim turns innovative ideas into practical, actionable strategies
[21:47] - Tim’s perspective on leadership within wealth management
[27:43] - Tim's key takeaways
[32:25] - Tim's interests outside of work
Quotes[12:51] - “The number one lesson I’ve learned from participants is how much this program gives them awareness that they’re not in this alone.” ~ Tim Williams[29:50] - "We are so focused on the process that we have forgotten that the best way to innovate, get organic growth, and move the ball forward is a growth mindset—meaning, fail early, fail fast, test, and learn." ~ Tim Williams[31:57] - "We are getting a new era of leaders. We have to embrace them and support them. We can learn a lot from them." ~ Tim WilliamsLinks
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Money Management Institute
Craig Pfeiffer
Len Reinhart
Danielle Learned
NYU Stern
Blackstone
Broadridge
Morgan Stanley
Microsoft
PwC
Academy | Money Management Institute
Executive IQ | Money Management Institute
Leadership Pathway | Money Management Institute
University of Virginia Darden School of Business
Jacquelyn Reardon
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Aug 13, 2024 • 24min
Unlocking AI's Potential in Wealth Management with Rob Pettman
The integration of artificial intelligence is poised to significantly transform wealth management. AI's true value lies in its ability to solve complex business challenges. By understanding the industry's specific pain points, AI can be used strategically to drive growth, boost profitability, and deliver exceptional client experiences.In this episode, Jack talks with Rob Pettman, President & Chief Revenue Officer at TIFIN. In his role, Rob oversees revenue generation strategies, forges strategic partnerships, and drives the company's growth initiatives.Rob talks with Jack about the types of AI used in managing wealth and the efficiency and growth potential it brings. He also shares how TIFIN helps wealth management firms implement AI into their practices.In this episode:
[01:30] - Rob's role at TIFIN
[03:57] - Two types of AI that can be applied to wealth management
[06:59] - How AI supercharges organic growth
[13:20] - How Rob helps wealth management firms implement AI
[15:25] - AI decision-makers
[17:27] - Rob’s thoughts on the future of the industry
[19:14] - Rob's key takeaways
[20:22] - Rob's interests outside of work
Quotes[03:11] - "I met with a lot of technology firms, and everybody will tell you what the technology does. But very rarely does anybody really help you understand the business problems that the technology could solve for you." ~ Rob Pettman[05:04] - "Think about some of the commercial applications for [AI]. It can help with predictive growth. It can help with predictive risk management, whether in a portfolio context or a compliance context. We have massive sums of data in wealth management. And so the ability to be able to train these algos on them and then essentially leverage them to get additional horsepower creates operational efficiency in our decision-making process" ~ Rob Pettman[15:45] - "Supervised AI is an algorithm that learns over time. The sooner I start, the smarter it is over time. So if I start earlier than my competitors, my stuff's going to be a lot smarter than their stuff when they start late." ~ Rob PettmanLinks
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Aug 6, 2024 • 28min
The Evolution of Goals-Based Investing with Robbie Cannon
For decades, the financial world focused on investments. But, eventually, that focus shifted to planning. It wasn't just about the “what” of investing but the “why”. This evolution changed wealth management, and represents a move away from a one-size-fits-all strategy and toward a more flexible, client-driven approach.In this episode, Jack talks with Robbie Cannon, a Board Member at Founders Financial. He is also the Founder of Horizon Investments and a Board Member of the Money Management Institute (MMI). With a background in quantitative finance and goals-based investment strategies, Robbie has made Horizon a leader in the industry. His passion for innovation and client outcomes has driven his success as a leader and influencer in the wealth management sector.Robbie talks with Jack about how he built Horizon Investments from the ground up, the evolution of goals-based investing, and the importance of personalized advice. Robbie also shares his latest venture with Thrive by Money Management Institute, and how AI, blockchain, and quantitative finance is driving a new era of financial planning.Key Takeaways
[01:58] - Robbie's journey in wealth management
[03:28] - How goals-based investing evolved
[07:30] - What the green line represents in wealth management
[10:41] - Horizon Investments' approach to achieving client goals
[12:12] - How Horizon provides guidance to advisors
[13:55] - What it takes to be in the outcome space
[15:55] - What Thrive by Money Management Institute is all about
[20:06] - Robbie's thoughts on the future of the industry
[22:28] - Robbie's key takeaways
[24:29] - Robbie's interests outside of work
Quotes[09:26] - "Entrepreneurship is about weathering the markets and being able to pivot and navigate. At Horizon, flexibility is built inside. It comes with smart individuals wrapped around a singular goal — client outcomes." ~ Robbie Cannon[10:10] - "Advisors enter the business to help people. As asset managers, our job is to help advisors help their clients weather the market." ~ Robbie CannonLinks
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Money Management Institute
Thrive | Money Management Institute
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Fidelity Investments
Morningstar
The Advice Age
Danielle Learned
John Drahzal
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