
The Hard Part with Evan McCann
The Hard Part with Evan McCann shares the stories, tactics and playbooks of Canada's top founders, investors and leaders. Canadians are undercover compared to their American counterparts. The Hard Part is changing that.
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Nov 18, 2024 • 47min
David Gaylord from Bushbalm
David Gaylord is the Co-Founder and CEO of Bushbalm.
Takeaways
Growing up in a family business and jumping into e-commerce early
Working at Shopify and learnings there
Genesis story behind Bushbalm
Going full-time with Bushbalm after a few years and over $4M in revenue
Why salons/professional channel has been so powerful for the brand
Advantages of wholesale from distribution and beyond
Effectively using 3PLs
How to do retail partnerships well
Doing great product launches
Limited Edition products
Product launches around seasonal demand
Black Friday strategies
Bootstrapping
Cash flow dynamics and how to use them as an advantage
Chapters
00:00 The Evolution of a Family Business
05:20 The Birth of Bushbalm
10:44 Navigating Distribution Channels
16:16 Wholesale vs. Direct-to-Consumer
22:30 Leveraging Social Media for Growth
29:45 Timing and Strategy for Seasonal Product Launches
36:05 Cash Flow Management: Lessons from Gymshark
41:30 Looking Ahead: Goals for the Upcoming Year
Keywords
e-commerce, Shopify, Bushbomb, product-market fit, family business, direct-to-consumer, retail, distribution channels, trade shows, 3PL, retail partnerships, product launches, Black Friday strategies, pricing strategies, bootstrapping, cash flow management, supplier relationships, company culture, business growth, consumer engagement

Nov 15, 2024 • 48min
Mike Gozzo from Ada
Mike Gozzo is the Chief Product and Technology Officer (CPTO) at Ada.
Mike is also an Operating Advisor at Bessemer Venture Partners. Previously Mike founded Smooch.io which Zendesk acquired. He then worked as SVP of Product at Zendesk.
Takeaways
Smooch.io was born from a unique incubation experience.
The story behind the acquisition by Zendesk for $80M.
Cultural alignment was a key factor in choosing Zendesk.
Why he left his role at Zendesk to join Ada.
After joining Ada why he cut the number of products and narrowed the company's focus.
AI is reshaping product development and customer interactions.
Flexibility in software design.
The importance of delivering high-quality automated resolutions.
Product teams should be structured around key metrics.
How Ada structures their product and technical teams.
Inference and intelligence in AI will become commoditized.
Early-stage founders should focus on customer feedback.
His work with Bessemer, angel investing and advice for founders.
Chapters
00:00 The Genesis of Smooch.io
12:45 Navigating the Acquisition by Zendesk
13:01 Cultural Integration and Reflections Post-Acquisition
18:02 The Decision to Leave Zendesk for Ada
20:27 Impactful Decisions at Ada
22:58 AI's Influence on Product Development
25:45 The Evolution of AI in Customer Service
30:14 Building Effective Product Teams
36:27 The Future of AI Applications
39:49 Insights from Venture Capital and Angel Investing
42:13 Advice for Early-Stage Founders
44:41 Personal Growth and Professional Excitement
47:02 Navigating Challenges as a Founder
Keywords
Smooch.io, Zendesk, acquisition, startup culture, product management, AI, customer experience, entrepreneurship, Canadian startups, innovation, AI, customer service, product management, venture capital, early-stage startups, founder advice, machine learning, automated resolutions, product teams, investment strategies

Nov 13, 2024 • 43min
Gregory Macdonald from Bathorium
Gregory Macdonald is the Founder and CEO of Bathorium.
Bathorium was founded on the concept of benefits based on bathing; bath soaks that invigorate, restore and rejuvenate the end user. From day one this Canadian company's mandate is to create a truly memorable bath experience focusing on the bathers' well-being.
Takeaways
Bathorium was inspired by a transformative bath experience in Italy
The company started in local markets
Sourcing quality ingredients
A feature on Good Morning America propelled their growth
Channels, DTC, wholesale and more
Thinking behind product offerings
Pricing strategies and positioning
The importance of brand
Buying out his co-founder
The second decade of the brand
Chapters
00:00 The Genesis of Bathorium
05:01 Sourcing Ingredients and Building a Supply Chain
10:14 Pivotal Moments in Bathorium's Journey
15:26 Navigating Channels and Market Strategies
22:07 The Impact of Pricing and Brand Positioning
28:06 Looking Ahead: The Second Decade of Bathorium
34:38 The Role of Mentorship in Business
Keywords
Bathorium, entrepreneurship, clean beauty, wellness, product sourcing, market strategy, co-founder dynamics, brand positioning, mentorship, retail partnerships

Nov 12, 2024 • 40min
Xavier Hébert-Couturier from Picketa Systems
Xavier Hébert-Couturier is the CEO and Co-Founder of Picketa Systems.
Picketa Systems offers real-time plant tissue sampling for growers and agri-businesses to conduct nutrient analyses rapidly and independently.
An online platform informs farmers instantly of nutrient deficiencies, enables agronomists to tailor nutrient critical levels and delivers a comprehensive overview of crop needs at the glimpse of a dashboard"
Takeaways
Genesis story of Picketa
How the business model has evolved
How real-time nutrient analysis is a gamechanger
Building their prototype
How Picketa fits into a farmer's typical process
Creating a seamless user experience
Grassroots marketing and getting in front of farmers
The focus on agronomists as their super users
Hardware + software integration and how to make it a great product
Selecting what crops to focus on early on
Industry trends show consolidation and a focus on precision agriculture
Platform integrations
Chapters
00:00 The Genesis of Picketa Systems
06:27 Business Model Evolution
11:52 Adapting Technology for Diverse Environments
17:23 Hardware and Software Integration
23:23 Navigating Industry Trends
33:06 Ecosystem and Platform Integration
Keywords
Picketa Systems, agriculture technology, crop analysis, tissue sampling, agronomy, business model, user experience, data utilization, marketing strategies, hardware integration

Nov 4, 2024 • 46min
Paige Cey from Benny
Paige Cey is the Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Benny.
Benny is a new take on energy drinks.
Takeaways
The idea for Benny emerged from a shared love for adaptogens.
The adaptogen trend and tailwind.
Where the name Benny came from.
The brand targets a millennial and Gen Z audience.
In-person events.
Building community for Benny.
Social media strategy.
Wholesale distribution.
Flavor decisions.
Relationships with co-packers.
US expansion plans.
Co-founder relationships.
Thoughts on pricing.
Hints at future products.
Chapters
00:00 The Genesis of Benny: A Startup Journey
02:54 Crafting the Product: From Idea to Reality
06:11 Branding and Community: Building Friends with Benny
09:06 Navigating Production: The Co-Packer Experience
12:06 Marketing Strategies: In-Person Events and Community Engagement
15:11 Wholesale vs. E-Commerce: Balancing Distribution Channels
18:10 Flavor Decisions: Crafting Unique Taste Experiences
20:46 Customer Relationships: Engaging with Benny Drinkers
24:19 Innovative Beverage Launch and Consumer Engagement
26:46 Understanding Adaptogens and Their Benefits
30:04 Social Media Strategy and Community Building
32:12 The Importance of Authenticity in Brand Storytelling
36:09 Plans for U.S. Expansion
39:16 Co-Founder Dynamics and Relationship Building
41:42 Personal and Professional Growth
44:07 Mindset and Resilience in Entrepreneurship
Keywords
Benny, startup, adaptogens, yerba mate, branding, community, e-commerce, wholesale, flavors, marketing, Beverage industry, energy drinks, pricing strategy, adaptogens, retail strategy, social media marketing, community building, U.S. expansion, funding, co-founder relationships, entrepreneurship

Oct 30, 2024 • 50min
Yuri Sagalov from Wayfinder Ventures
Yuri Sagalov, Managing Partner of Wayfinder Ventures, shares his journey from Russia to the U.S. and how it shaped his entrepreneurial spirit. He discusses the evolution of Y Combinator and the glamour of being a founder compared to an investor. Yuri reflects on his angel investing successes and highlights 'velocity' as a crucial predictor of startup success. He also explains Wayfinder's unique approach to supporting founders and the growing accessibility of angel investing, revealing his contrarian views in the venture capital landscape.

Oct 25, 2024 • 47min
Gennady Pekhimenko from CentML
Gennady Pekhimenko is the CEO and Co-Founder of CentML.
Gennady is also an Associate Professor at the University of Toronto and a Faculty Member at Vector Institute.
Takeaways
Genesis of CentML - from academia to industry
Commercializing university research
Tailwinds behind AI and market opportunities
Three Pillars of AI - models, data and hardware
Enterprise adoption of AI - trends and insights
The future of AI models - commoditization vs. innovation
Raising $30M+ from Gradient Ventures, Radical Ventures, Deloitte Ventures, Nvidia, Thomson Reuters Ventures and more
Attracting talent - competitive AI job market
The UofT AI talent pool with Geoff Hinton, Raquel Urtasun, Aidan Gomez and many more
What the federal government should do with the $2.4B in AI funding
Why compute in Canada is critical to our AI success
The role of Vector Institute
Personal growth as a CEO and constantly learning
Chapters
00:00 The Genesis of CentML: A Journey Through Academia and Industry
04:31 Commercializing University Research: The Builder Mindset
07:47 The Tailwinds of AI: Market Opportunities and Challenges
11:01 Three Pillars of AI: Models, Data, and Hardware
15:19 Enterprise Adoption of AI: Trends and Insights
18:37 The Future of AI Models: Commoditization vs. Innovation
21:46 Building a Flexible and Scalable AI Business
25:35 Attracting Talent: Competing in the AI Job Market
29:06 The Power of Networking: The Toronto AI Ecosystem
32:11 Government Initiatives: Building AI Infrastructure in Canada
37:42 AI Adoption in Enterprises: A Gradual Shift
40:57 Personal Growth: The Journey of a Startup CEO
Keywords
CentML, AI, machine learning, commercialization, university research, enterprise adoption, AI infrastructure, talent acquisition, Toronto AI ecosystem, government initiatives

Oct 24, 2024 • 35min
Olivia Steedman from Teachers' Venture Growth
In this chat, Olivia Steedman, Executive Managing Director of Teachers' Venture Growth, shares her journey from civil engineering to shaping late-stage venture investments in tech. She discusses the pivotal role of AI in sectors like fintech and health tech, highlighting emerging trends. Olivia explains the importance of a global investment strategy and the collaboration within her diverse team across key markets. Her insights on investment criteria and recent deals offer a fascinating look at building better businesses for the future.

Oct 23, 2024 • 37min
Brook Papau from Orennia
Brook Papau is the Co-Founder and CEO of Orennia.
Orennia is your all-in-one platform for accurate data, predictive analytics and actionable insights across the energy transition.
Make more efficient capital-allocation decisions and maximize returns across the solar, wind, storage, power, RNG, CCUS, clean fuels and hydrogen sectors. The technology that powers Orennia’s platform delivers an unparalleled experience, distilling information into actionable insights to give you a competitive edge.
Takeaways
The evolution of RS Energy as a business and exiting for $1B
Lessons from a decade at RS Energy
Orennia genesis story
The $2.5 trillion opportunity with renewables
Ground truths in renewables which can be a polarizing subject
Regional dynamics for energy (ie. wind versus solar)
Orennia's AI strategy
Building a strong culture
Product differentiation and building a new category
Dive deep into sales and thoughts on product
Raising capital
Chapters
00:00 The RS Energy Journey
03:25 Lessons from a Decade at RS Energy
08:13 Successful Business Model Shifts
11:16 Genesis of a New Venture
16:05 The $2.5 Trillion Renewable Opportunity
19:31 Ground Truths in Renewables
22:37 Regional Dynamics of Energy Sources
25:29 Product Differentiation in Energy Data
27:40 Leveraging AI for Data Solutions
30:30 Navigating Capital Raising Challenges
33:18 Sales and Product Integration
35:01 Building a Collaborative Culture
39:00 Personal and Professional Excitements
40:12 Coping with Challenges as a Founder
Keywords
RS Energy, energy transition, technology company, renewable energy, capital raising, AI in energy, business model shift, Calgary tech ecosystem, data analytics, founder mindset

Oct 21, 2024 • 49min
Neil Grunberg from Storytime Capital
Neil Grunberg is the Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Storytime Capital.
Storytime Capital is a VC focused on early-stage (Pre-Seed & Seed) investments. They primarily focus on technology solving the Future of Work.
Previously Neil was a Co-Founder at AlayaCare (~$300M raised) and was at Workbrain and part of the "Workbrain Mafia".
Takeaways
What made Workbrain so special and Neil's experience there.
Genesis story of AlayaCare.
What made AlayaCare's culture so strong and leading with empathy.
Building and maintaining Co-Founder relationships.
Fundraising insights (AlayaCare raised close to $300M)
Checking your ego and Neil's experience working on product, strategy, corp dev, etc.
How a founder's role changes throughout the life of a company.
How to build a strong corp dev function.
Why start a VC firm and what it is like having perspective as an operator, founder and now investor.
Why the future of work thesis.
Major shift in software solutions.
Chapters
00:00 The Workbrain Experience
06:20 The Genesis of AlayaCare
10:39 Co-Founder Relationships and Empathy
14:33 Fundraising Insights
17:06 Evolving Roles in Startups
23:38 Corporate Development Lessons
29:23 Building a Community as an Investor
34:27 Future of Work Thesis
38:21 The Shift in Software Solutions
41:03 The Investor's Perspective
45:29 Personal and Professional Excitement
48:09 Handling Hard Times
Keywords
Workbrain, AlayaCare, co-founder relationships, fundraising, corporate development, future of work, software solutions, investor insights, community building, resilience
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