Treated with Dr. Sara Szal

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Jun 25, 2025 • 1h 3min

Surviving the United States of Dysregulation with Dr. Nicole LePera (The Holistic Psychologist)

Do you always feel a sense of urgency—like you’re on edge, reactive to everything around you? Or, on the other hand, shut down and withdrawn? Then you may be experiencing dysregulation. Dysregulation occurs when the body and mind fall out of balance and struggle to return to a neutral state. Today, clinical psychologist Dr. Nicole LePera (@theholisticpsychologist) joins Treated to explore how and why so many of us live in a constant state of dysregulation. Dr. Sara and Dr. Nicole discuss how our early environments shape the way we respond to stress as adults, what a healthy stress response looks like versus a chronically dysregulated one, and why women are more susceptible to dysregulation. Then they dive into the importance of taking a “bottom-up” approach to healing and explore the role cortisol plays in keeping us stuck in survival mode.Throughout the episode, Dr. Nicole shares personal stories from her own healing journey—from the impact of her mother’s emotional withdrawal during childhood, to using substances to self-regulate in high school, and even how her mother’s stress during pregnancy contributed to her chronic anxiety. To close, Dr. Sara and Dr. Nicole offer practical tools for regulating the nervous system– from setting boundaries to improving sleep.// LEARN MORE FROM DR. NICOLE LEPERA // Visit his website theholisticpsychologist.comFollow her on Instagram @theholisticpsychologist. Purchase all of her books through her website, How To Be The Love You Seek, How To Meet Yourself, How To Do The Work.   // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA //If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsaraWatch Treated on YouTube Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Jun 18, 2025 • 42min

How to Heal: From Surfing to Psychedelics

The common prescription to heal our psyche today is to take an SSRI and go to talk therapy. But as we’ve learned through the past few episodes, this only works for 30% of people. That means we need to explore other ways to heal our consciousness. Today on Treated, Dr. Sara sits down with Dr. Brad Jacobs to learn about the alternative ways he has healed his consciousness. From taking MDMA for the first time in college, to surfing and skiing, doing Ayahuasca in ceremony, and both experiencing and prescribing Ketamine therapy—Dr. Brad Jacobs walks us through how to use the present moment as a tool for mental healing.// LEARN MORE FROM DR. BRAD JACOBS // Visit his website drbradjacobs.com Follow him on Instagram @bradjacobsmd.  Listen to our first conversation here and second one here.  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA //If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsaraWatch Treated on YouTube Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Jun 11, 2025 • 46min

Sisterhood as Medicine (with Dr. Sara’s Sister, Anna Reed)

Join Dr. Sara and her sister, Anna Reed, for an honest, funny, and sincere conversation around navigating the healthcare system in the United States as a woman and learning how to regulate your nervous system with age. Anna is a fourth grade teacher and was diagnosed with endometriosis earlier on in life–-a condition that runs in their family. Today, she’s had three surgeries to remove it and underwent a hysterectomy last year. Anna shares the advice she got from Dr. Sara while going through that period and the health protocols she now follows. Then, Anna opens up about the joys and struggles of being a teacher, the importance of cultivating female friendships, and how she found herself after divorce. They close with practical tips to optimize your health for any stage of life.  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA //If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsaraWatch Treated on YouTube Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 5min

Loosening the Knot: Rob Fisher on the Power of Therapeutic Relationships

Rob Fisher is a marriage and family therapist (MFT), Hakomi trainer, professor, and author. After working in the entertainment industry, he began studying for his master’s degree in psychology. About a decade later, he discovered Hakomi—a body- and mindfulness-centered approach to psychotherapy that emphasizes experiential healing and the importance of the therapeutic relationship. Today, Rob has taught many therapists this practice and is developing “The Compassion Companion,” an AI tool powered by ChatGPT, for patients to use.Rob joins Dr. Sara on Treated to discuss what led him to switch careers, how he found Hakomi, why it’s such an important form of therapy, and what he’s learned about human nature through it. They also explore the power of writing and what inspired him to write both nonfiction and fiction books. Later, Rob shares his hopes and fears about AI and what the impact will be on human connection and in-person therapy. Dr. Sara tests out “The Compassion Companion,” Rob’s AI therapy tool, and they engage in a real-time Hakomi experience. To close, he shares a memory of one of his favorite clients and reflects on how he hopes to be remembered.// LEARN MORE FROM ROB FISHER // Visit his website robfishermft.com Check out the Compassion Companion and use it here. Purchase his book, The Weeping Buddha and Experiential Psychotherapy With Couples, A Guide for the Creative Pragmatist. // OTHER REFERENCES // Research studies on AI and psychotherapy: Kuhail, Mohammad Amin, Mohamed Bahja, Ons Al-shamaileh, Justin Thomas, Amina Alkazemi, and Joao Negreiros. "Assessing the Impact of Chatbot-Human Personality Congruence on User Behavior: A Chatbot-Based Advising System Case." IEEE Access PP (2024): 1-1. doi:10.1109/ACCESS.2024.3402977. // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA //If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsaraWatch Treated on YouTube Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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May 28, 2025 • 49min

We’re Innately Worthy: Kate Northrup on Feeling Safe and Manifesting Abundance

What if the key to financial success and a fulfilling life is slowing down and feeling safe? Kate Northrup is an author, podcaster, and coach who helps people regulate their nervous systems to attract abundance. After the traumatic birth of her daughter in 2016, Kate was left with anxiety and hypervigilance. It was then that she realized she had been using stress and pressure as fuel—and began to strategically relax. When she did, abundance started to flow into her life.In this episode, Kate guides us on how to move more slowly, engage our senses, and strengthen our intuition. Tune in to learn the simple, tangible advice that can lead to a life filled with more joy, peace, and abundance. // LEARN MORE FROM KATE NORTHRUP // Visit his website katenorthrup.com. Follow her on Instagram @katenorthrup.  Listen to her podcast, Plenty, wherever you podcast. Purchase her books, Do Less and Money: A Love Story.  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA //If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsaraWatch Treated on YouTube Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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May 21, 2025 • 28min

Can Microdosing Psychedelics Actually Improve Your Health?

Microdosing psychedelics, like LSD and psilocybin, is gaining traction as a potential alternative for treating depression. Research suggests these small doses may enhance mood, sleep, and even creativity without harmful side effects. However, significant gaps remain, particularly studies focusing on women. The discussion also includes a personal account of microdosing, showcasing its impact on well-being. As the field evolves, the need for more comprehensive research is crucial to understand the full benefits and implications.
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May 14, 2025 • 33min

Yin and Yang: Balancing our Polarities with Dr. Brad Jacobs

How do we balance our polarities—our feminine and masculine, our lightness and darkness? In this episode, Dr. Brad Jacobs and Dr. Sara discuss how to balance our lives to optimize our healthspan by focusing on what is common sense but not common practice. Dr. Brad Jacobs delves into the top health issues he sees in his patients: loneliness, sleep disturbances, and a complete denial of their health. He then explores the complexities of modern masculinity and the pitfalls of traditional masculine models. To conclude, Dr. Brad Jacobs provides practical strategies for men to achieve balance, improve their well-being, and foster healthier relationships.// LEARN MORE FROM DR. BRAD JACOBS // Visit his website drbradjacobs.com Follow him on Instagram @bradjacobsmd.  Follow on // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA //If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsaraWatch Treated on YouTube Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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May 7, 2025 • 47min

Dr. Brad Jacobs on What Mainstream Medicine Gets Wrong About Health and How to Fix It

Dr. Brad Jacobs, a board-certified physician in Internal and Integrative Medicine and Stanford alum, shares his bold perspective on the flaws within the American healthcare system. He reflects on his transformative experiences in medical training and advocates for holistic approaches that empower patients. Dr. Jacobs discusses the importance of wearables, personal awareness, and innovative dietary practices. He dives into the intersection of self-care, martial arts, and the quest for true happiness beyond wealth, challenging conventional medicine for a more fulfilling health journey.
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Apr 30, 2025 • 1h 4min

Kayla Barnes-Lentz Plans to Live to 150. Here’s How She’s Going to Do it.

Can you imagine a world where we all live to be 150 years old? Kayla Barnes-Lentz is trying to make that a reality. Kayla is the owner of a longevity medical clinic and joins Treated to discuss the future of women’s health. She shares her personal protocols, passion for pushing the boundaries of science, and belief that women can live longer, healthier, and more vibrant lives. In this conversation she shares the top two strategies for longevity: sleep and eating a whole food diet. Dr. Sara and Kayla also explain the importance of performing end-of-one experiments and the array of findings Kayla has discovered by doing them. From mitochondrial health and ovarian aging to the truth about toxins and the power of red light therapy, this episode is packed with insights on biohacking. Is 150 the new 100? Kayla Barnes is betting on it. Find out your Total Tox Burden by taking this test.// LEARN MORE FROM KAYLA BARNES-LENTZ // Listen to her podcast, Longevity Optimization with Kayla Barnes-Lentz.Visit her website kaylabarnes.com. Watch her routine for longevity. Follow her on Instagram @kaylabarnes.   // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA //If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsaraWatch Treated on YouTube Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Apr 23, 2025 • 55min

How to Forgive Yourself with Sarah Ann Macklin

Model-turned-nutritionist Sarah Ann Macklin joins Treated for an intimate, raw, and deeply insightful conversation about stress, burnout, and the missing piece in our health: self-compassion. After years in the high-pressure world of modeling, Sarah found herself in the ICU—her body shutting down from extreme stress, malnutrition, and disconnection from herself. What followed was a decade-long journey of healing, studying nutrition, and uncovering the role of cortisol, self-kindness, and emotional health in true well-being.In this episode, we explore: How stress impacts your body and why “clean eating” isn’t enoughThe science of compassion and how it rewires your brain and metabolismWhy burnout happens long before we realize it—and how to reverse itBlue Mind Theory: How water, nature & nervous system resets transform stressA simple exercise to track self-critical thoughts and shift towards self-kindnessSarah also shares her upcoming book, The Compassion Cure, and why tracking your negative thoughts is as important as tracking your macros. If you’ve ever struggled with stress, burnout, or feeling “not enough,” this episode will change the way you approach your health. // LEARN MORE FROM SARAH ANN MACKLIN // Listen to her podcast here.Visit her website.Follow her on Instagram @sarahannmacklin  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA //If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsaraWatch Treated on YouTube Produced by Dear Media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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