
workshops work
Welcome to “workshops work,” the podcast that transforms how professionals engage, inspire, and lead groups. Ranked among the top 5% most popular podcasts globally, it is hosted by Dr Myriam Hadnes, a behavioural economist and facilitation expert. Each episode delves into the techniques and mindsets that make workshops truly impactful.Join us every week as we sit down with world-renowned facilitators and uncover their secrets to creating psychological safety, fostering collaboration, and sparking innovation. Whether you’re a Facilitator, L&D professional, HR leader, manager, coach or trainer, you’ll find practical tips, inspiring stories, and actionable insights to elevate your group dynamics.From navigating conflict to unlocking creativity, “workshops work” blends theory with practice, ensuring you walk away with tools you can immediately apply. Dr Myriam Hadnes doesn’t just interview; she facilitates enriching conversations that shift perspectives and deepen understanding.Subscribe now to change the world, one workshop at a time.
Latest episodes

May 30, 2023 • 1h 12min
219 - Unlocking Collaboration: Lessons from Zen about Facilitation with Sunni Brown
Share your thoughts about our conversation!Keynote speaker, published author, zen student, innovator-in-residence, and facilitator — Sunni Brown has a whole village’s worth of knowledge, but, somehow, contains it all within just one conscientious and clever human.Sunni’s fingerprints can be found on many resources and THINGS you’ll be familiar with as a facilitator: Gamestorming, The Doodle Revolution, and Deep Self Design.Safe to say, Sunni is well-placed to discuss the finer details of collaboration — and to highlight some of the ways we might learn about it more deeply from unexpected sources. Explore the art of zen and facilitation, how to get out of our own way, and why a dispassionate facilitator can be more helpful to a group than an overly committed one.Find out about:What Sunni has learned about facilitation since becoming a student of ZenHow our work might change if collaboration was seen as a skill, rather than an outcomeHow to help a group walk the thin line of doable discomfortWhy a saviour complex is a fatal flaw for facilitators — and how to avoid itWhy you can recover from poor workshop design, but not poor trust-buildingHow to take responsibility for our emotional responses, so we can remain in service to the groupWhy facilitators see big changes when they stop taking resistance personallyDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.LinksWatch the video recording of this episode on YouTube.Connect to Sunni:On LinkedInOn InstagramOn TwitterSupport the show✨✨✨Subscribe to our newsletter to receive a free 1-page summary of each upcoming episode directly to your inbox, or explore our eBooks featuring 50-episode compilations for even more facilitation insights. Find out more:https://workshops.work/podcast✨✨✨Did you know? You can search all episodes by keyword to find exactly what you need via our Buzzsprout page!

May 23, 2023 • 1h 11min
218 - Insights and Challenges in the World of Facilitators: SessionLab's State of Facilitation Report 2023 with Filip Kis
Share your thoughts about our conversation!What emerges when you survey 1,124 facilitators from 93 countries? The State of Facilitation — a snapshot of our profession for the year and a report packed with insights and direction for our continued development.SessionLab has conducted the first ever State of Facilitation report and Filip Kis, co-founder and CEO, was kind enough to run through the findings in this episode.How do facilitators define themselves? What trends are emerging in our work? And how do we structure our work? All of these questions (and more) were answered in the survey — then dissected and explored in this episode!Find out about:A review and analysis of the State of Facilitation 2023 reportWhether the majority of facilitators are solo or in-houseHow solo facilitators avoid a feeling of lonelinessHow digital tools are evolving into co-facilitators in their own rightWhy conversations remain the perfect preparation for a workshopDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.LinksWatch the video recording of this episode on YouTube.The State of Facilitation 2023 report.Connect to Filip:On LinkedInSupport the show✨✨✨Subscribe to our newsletter to receive a free 1-page summary of each upcoming episode directly to your inbox, or explore our eBooks featuring 50-episode compilations for even more facilitation insights. Find out more:https://workshops.work/podcast✨✨✨Did you know? You can search all episodes by keyword to find exactly what you need via our Buzzsprout page!

May 16, 2023 • 1h 5min
217 - Finding Your Facilitator Flow: The Art of Balancing Presence and Process with Sean Blair
Share your thoughts about our conversation!Do you have a presence when you facilitate? (Hint: we all do, whether we mean to or not!)The thing is, not all of us know it or practice it. Our presence is a combination of how we show up and how we give out our energy to the room. It’s not just about being present, but the way we do it.Sean Blair has been experimenting with his presence for many years now and has found some surprising results. He’s learned that presence is a flexible force that can positively influence outcomes and experiences in workshops - now he wants to help other facilitators understand and use it.Find out about:What Sean defines as presence and how it differs being from presentWhy a facilitator’s presence is best when it’s flexible and adaptableHow to assess a group or situation and dial in your presence to suit itWorking out when it’s right to provoke the group and when to hold backThe variables that affect how a group behaves and receives you - and how presence can influence thatHow to harness our energy and direct it in a way that is beneficial for the groupHow to relate to the group before you meet them and why it can be so helpfulDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.LinksWatch the video recording of this episode on YouTube.Connect to Sean:On LinkedInSERIOUSWORK, Sean’s LEGO® Serious Play™ companyProMeet, Sean’s facilitation businessSupport the show✨✨✨Subscribe to our newsletter to receive a free 1-page summary of each upcoming episode directly to your inbox, or explore our eBooks featuring 50-episode compilations for even more facilitation insights. Find out more:https://workshops.work/podcast✨✨✨Did you know? You can search all episodes by keyword to find exactly what you need via our Buzzsprout page!

May 9, 2023 • 56min
216 - Mastering Difficult Conversations: The Art of Communication through Role-Play with Kate Crawshaw
Share your thoughts about our conversation!A difficult conversation can take many forms — emotionally intense, sharing unexpected information, challenging someone, reasserting boundaries.Whatever ‘difficult’ looks like to you, we all have something in common: we’re terribly under-practiced in having these conversations.For Kate Crawshaw, role play can be the missing piece of the puzzle when it comes to feeling confident about difficult conversations. Creating a container and taking the time to practice, rehash, and become familiar with our ‘difficult’ selves can make every conversation feel more manageable and ourselves more grounded.Vital work for facilitators, you’ll no doubt agree.Find out about:How role play can give us a second chance — or a practice run — with difficult conversationsWhy difficult conversations are made more difficult by their scarcityHow to set the rules in role play and maintain a non-judgement practiceWhy it’s fruitless to role play as yourselfWhy judgement is a core part of facilitation and why it can feel so difficult to defer itHow controlling the tempo of your conversations can settle your nervesHow to stop focusing on your own ‘performance’ by refocusing on the learning outcomeDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.LinksSerious WooConnect to Kate:On LinkedInSupport the show✨✨✨Subscribe to our newsletter to receive a free 1-page summary of each upcoming episode directly to your inbox, or explore our eBooks featuring 50-episode compilations for even more facilitation insights. Find out more:https://workshops.work/podcast✨✨✨Did you know? You can search all episodes by keyword to find exactly what you need via our Buzzsprout page!

May 2, 2023 • 1h 21min
215 - Thinking Tools: Unlocking Companies’ Potential with Stefan Fothe
Share your thoughts about our conversation!Organisations will go to great lengths to create style guides, knowledge hubs, and team guides… so why aren’t they doing the same for problem-solving?Stefan Fothe believes organisations should be prioritising ‘thinking tools’ — a set of codes, methods, and skills that are shared among groups to problem-solve and ideate with autonomy and ease.Just as we develop shared technical languages and social hierarchies, we can surely add thinking tools to the mix! Learn how Stefan developed this important theory, why we need to lean into tension, and how you can prioritise thinking tools in your work with this episode.Find out about:What thinking tools are - with practical examples - and how they help groups solve problemsWhy companies are held back by not having a shared problem-solving methodologyWhy solutions have to be engineered from within, rather than presented by consultantsWhen to ask questions and when to provide suggestions — and how this can reduce overloadWhat happens when we treat tension as a valuable commodity, rather than a problemWhy consultants are storytellers and what everyone can learn from this approachHow to take ownership of tension and use it, constructively, to the company’s advantageDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.LinksStefan’s website https://ownity.com.au/Stefan’s short video on one Thinking Tool exampleConnect to Stefan:On LinkedInSupport the show✨✨✨Subscribe to our newsletter to receive a free 1-page summary of each upcoming episode directly to your inbox, or explore our eBooks featuring 50-episode compilations for even more facilitation insights. Find out more:https://workshops.work/podcast✨✨✨Did you know? You can search all episodes by keyword to find exactly what you need via our Buzzsprout page!

Apr 25, 2023 • 1h 18min
214 - Changing Change: How to Create Community and Culture Amidst Chaos with Rhys Cranney
Share your thoughts about our conversation!An organisational change process is a big deal. The whole operating system of a business can change, the context switches, the foundations can falter.But systems are systems — they are malleable and hard-wearing. People, on the other hand, are sensitive and emotional and often hugely resistant to change. And it is people who have to live, work, and operate within these new systems.Rhys Cranney wants the whole concept of change management to move away from a focus on systems to a focus on people and the emotional impact it brings. After hearing him speak so passionately in this episode, I think he will have many people supporting this belief!Find out about:Why the human desire for control makes the change process so complicatedWhy inclusion makes change so much more palatableHow the process changes when we acknowledge the emotional cost it entailsHow facilitation affects physical, emotional, and mental wellbeingWhy a bottom-up, individuals-first, approach can be helpful when planning changeWhat’s different when everybody understands both the ‘why’ and the ‘how’ behind a changeDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.LinksWatch the video recording of this episode on YouTube.Connect to Rhys:On LinkedInSupport the show✨✨✨Subscribe to our newsletter to receive a free 1-page summary of each upcoming episode directly to your inbox, or explore our eBooks featuring 50-episode compilations for even more facilitation insights. Find out more:https://workshops.work/podcast✨✨✨Did you know? You can search all episodes by keyword to find exactly what you need via our Buzzsprout page!

Apr 18, 2023 • 1h 23min
213 - Unleashing Autonomy: Facilitating Self-Organising Systems with Bob Dick
Experienced Bob Dick delves into self-organising groups, hierarchy removal, and the path to self-organising systems. Discusses honesty, empathy, storytelling, and the Australasian Facilitator Network. Explores the role of a facilitator, autonomy in education, and community building. Touches on virtual meetings, structured vs self-organising facilitation, mystical practices, and embracing autonomy and effective facilitation.

Apr 11, 2023 • 1h 8min
212 - Why Conflict is a Gift: The Inner Journey of a Skilled Facilitator with Sarah Norton & Steve Ray
Share your thoughts about our conversation!Conflict in workshops is common, but how many of us seek to avoid it instead of embracing it?It’s understandable, and dare I say natural, to do so, but as Sarah Norton and Steve Ray explain in this episode, conflict is a growth opportunity. The journey through conflict can be uncomfortable, but the destination beyond it is one of radical difference.Sarah and Steve have trained countless facilitators in the art of conflict facilitation — not ‘management’ or ‘resolution’, but precisely ‘facilitation’ — and share their key takeaways, common realisations, and secrets to success in this episode.Find out about:How to use conflict as a growth opportunity and why it’s important to do soWhat work facilitators shall do to prevent themselves being triggered in conflictsWhy well-facilitated conflict can be so powerful — and what can happen when it isn’’t facilitatedWhy a focus on inner work will serve facilitators better than learning more tools or methodsHow to create coherent and memorable principle statements for yourselfWhy facilitators are in the room to protect the space, rather than direct itHow and why Sarah and Steve train facilitators to be consciously incompetentDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.LinksGroupwork Centre website.Connect to Sarah and Steve:Sarah on LinkedInSteve on LinkedInSupport the show✨✨✨Subscribe to our newsletter to receive a free 1-page summary of each upcoming episode directly to your inbox, or explore our eBooks featuring 50-episode compilations for even more facilitation insights. Find out more:https://workshops.work/podcast✨✨✨Did you know? You can search all episodes by keyword to find exactly what you need via our Buzzsprout page!

Apr 4, 2023 • 1h 11min
211 - An Insider View into the Worklife of a Corporate Facilitator with Lani Beer
Share your thoughts about our conversation!An external facilitator enters the building with a clear purpose and a single-minded focus. An internal facilitator enters the building five days a week, most weeks of the year, in the middle of all the idiosyncratic relationships, needs, and culture that exists.The two are in very different positions and so different skills, approaches, and mindsets are necessary.More often than not, I speak with independent facilitators — freelancers or solopreneurs — so an insight into the world of corporate facilitation felt important. It also felt incredibly enlightening, thanks to Lani Beer’s openness and thoughtfulness when sharing her vast experience. Lani has been facilitating in-house for 20 years (give or take) and calls on all of those years of rich experience in this episode.Find out about:Why facilitators can find a new (or another) home with the title of ‘innovator’How Lani combines design thinking, Agile, and facilitation skills to work with bankers and lawyersWhat an internal facilitator does when they aren’t hosting or planning workshopsHow to avoid ‘shiny new object’ syndrome when you have a voracious appetite for learningWhy a ‘worry list’ should sit alongside your to-do list — and why it’s so effectiveHow to triage requests (from clients or colleagues) to identify learning opportunities and protect your boundariesHow using non-verbal communication can help well-spoken participants unlock new answersDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.Connect to Lani:On LinkedInSupport the show✨✨✨Subscribe to our newsletter to receive a free 1-page summary of each upcoming episode directly to your inbox, or explore our eBooks featuring 50-episode compilations for even more facilitation insights. Find out more:https://workshops.work/podcast✨✨✨Did you know? You can search all episodes by keyword to find exactly what you need via our Buzzsprout page!

Mar 28, 2023 • 54min
210 - Bridging the World of Play and Corporate Life with Pauline McNulty
Share your thoughts about our conversation!No CEO or board is going to sign off on a project to make work more playful. This is because the misconception that play = games persists.The reality, however, is that more play at work will lead to more effective teams and better collaboration.Pauline McNulty joins me in this episode to explain why play, enjoyment, engagement, and purpose are all faces of the same die. When we roll it, they are all possible outcomes and they are all connected.If we are bringing a group together to deliver on a goal (or goals), the opportunity for play is inescapable. It’s up to us to embrace it — and Pauline explains how and why that’s such a good idea.Find out about:How to create a work culture that prioritises joy — and how play connects with itWhy the path to play in work starts with reexamining what work really meansHow to get in touch with your preferred way to playWhy Pauline wants use to stop conflating play and gamesWhat the four levers to make work more playful are — and how to activate themWhy reframing situations is the most powerful tool for playful workDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.LinksWatch the video recording of this episode on YouTube.Why Play Works podcastThe Play Works CollectiveThe Play Works’ Meet-Up pagePlayfilledPlay: How It Shapes the Brain, Opens the Imagination, and Invigorates the Soul by Dr Stuart BrownDr Stuart Brown’s TED talkConnect to Pauline:On LinkedInSupport the show✨✨✨Subscribe to our newsletter to receive a free 1-page summary of each upcoming episode directly to your inbox, or explore our eBooks featuring 50-episode compilations for even more facilitation insights. Find out more:https://workshops.work/podcast✨✨✨Did you know? You can search all episodes by keyword to find exactly what you need via our Buzzsprout page!
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