For The Long Run: Exploring the Why Behind Running

At just 9 years old, Sebastian Salsbury ran his first ultramarathon race. He knew even then that he had to become one of the best in the sport someday. Now, Sebastian is an 18-year-old professional trail runner in Santa Barbara, CA who’s found a second family in the trail running community. He believes that anyone at any age can start running. Listen to this episode to hear about: What it was like to be raised in the mountain ultra community Transitioning to competitive running in middle school Being coached by Hayden Hawks and crewing him at Western States The importance of having non-runner friends Working with brands as an athlete The lure of the 100-mile distance Stay connected: Sebastian on Instagram: instagram.com/sebrunsfar Follow Sebastian Salsbury on Strava For The Long Run Podcast on Instagram: ⁠instagram.com/forthelrpod⁠ Jon Levitt on Instagram: ⁠instagram.com/jwlevitt⁠ Join the For The Long Run email community: ⁠for-the-long-run.beehiiv.com⁠ This episode is supported by: Hyperice: Innovative recovery tools for all types of training. My favorite are the Normatec leg boots and Normatec Go portable calf sleeves. Get 10% off with code LONGRUN10 at hyperice.com. Tifosi Optics: Fantastic sunglasses for every type of run. Anti-bounce fit, shatterproof, and scratch resistant. Use code FTLR for 15% off your pair at ⁠https://alnk.to/3ybGCzH⁠.

What sounds more challenging: Running a hard 10k, or sitting still for three days without exercise? Dr. Lara Pence is a licensed clinical psychologist working with elite and professional athletes. She helps them not only improve their performance in sport but also connect more deeply with the entire life experience. Lara’s also the founder of The Coaches Collective, a program for ambitious sport coaches looking to increase their skills in human behavior and psychology. Listen to this episode to hear about: Common identity challenges runners face in everyday training and injury The intersection of therapy and endurance sports Dr. Pence’s clinical experience with athletes with disordered eating Superficial connections in society and the need for deeper relationships Why athletes need to slow down and rest (and even get bored) Stay connected: Dr. Lara Pence on Instagram: instagram.com/drlarapence  The Coaches Collective: drlarapence.com/coaches  For The Long Run Podcast on Instagram: instagram.com/forthelrpod Jon Levitt on Instagram: instagram.com/jwlevitt Join the For The Long Run email community: for-the-long-run.beehiiv.com This episode is supported by: PUMA: My current top shoe is the Deviate Nitro First Mile. Get 20% off any PUMA run or train products from shoes to apparel with code FTLR24 at www.puma.com. Tifosi Optics: Fantastic sunglasses for every type of run. Anti-bounce fit, shatterproof, and scratch resistant. Use code FTLR for 15% off your pair at https://alnk.to/3ybGCzH. Hyperice: Innovative recovery tools for all types of training. My favorite are the Normatec leg boots and Normatec Go portable calf sleeves. Get 10% off with code LONGRUN10 at hyperice.com.

How does a runner go from self-described bench warmer to podium finisher at one of the most renowned 100 milers in the world? Zoë Rom is a writer and journalist based in Carbondale, CO. She’s the host and producer of The Trailhead Podcast and Your Diet Sucks, and author of the book “Becoming a Sustainable Runner.” And she was the second female finisher at the 2024 Leadville Trail 100 Run! Listen to this episode to hear about: A race day recap of Zoë’s 2nd female finish at Leadville The difference in her mindset compared to her previous Leadville DNF: embracing her multifaceted self, creating space, sharing goals, and running purely for herself Mental strategies and flexible plans that helped her roll with the punches What it felt like to know she was in second place mid-race, and mutual support with women’s first place runner Mary Denholm Goals for the future and why a clear vision matters Stay connected: Zoë on Instagram: instagram.com/carrot_flowers_z  Zoë’s book with Tina Muir, Becoming a Sustainable Runner: www.becomingasustainablerunner.com  For The Long Run Podcast on Instagram: instagram.com/forthelrpod Jon Levitt on Instagram: instagram.com/jwlevitt Join the For The Long Run email community: for-the-long-run.beehiiv.com Other FTLR episodes with Zoë 282. Tina Muir and Zoë Rom: Running for Life, Community, and Planet https://open.spotify.com/episode/7rjg8YvpyYUD3LYPwHkR7i?si=253d4925591b4e67  117. Failure Makes You a Better Athlete and Human https://open.spotify.com/episode/7yCYgO6UMhaSQ2Bc2psAxC This episode is supported by: Boulderthon: Our favorite Colorado race event with a variety of distances. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off the marathon or half marathon when you register at ⁠www.boulderthon.org⁠. 2Before: Get a performance boost with New Zealand Blackcurrant berries. Use code FTLR for 30% off of multi-serve and 20 packs over at www.2before.com. Tifosi Optics: Fantastic sunglasses for every type of run. Anti-bounce fit, shatterproof, and scratch resistant. Use code FTLR for 15% off your pair at ⁠⁠https://alnk.to/3ybGCzH⁠⁠.

What does it take to win the Leadville Trail 100 Run during your first-ever year of competing on trail? Mary Denholm cracked the code after racing almost exclusively on roads from 2015-2024. During that time, she took her road marathon personal record from 3:39 to 2:36 and qualified twice for the Olympic Marathon Trials. Mary decided to shift to ultrarunning in early 2024, and on August 17th, she won Leadville’s legendary 100 mile race. Listen to this episode to hear about: How and why Mary transitioned from road to trail Strength training and injury recovery leading up to Leadville Mary’s recap of her Leadville victory Tips for taking care of yourself during training and racing Stay connected: Mary on Instagram: instagram.com/eatrunandbemary For The Long Run Podcast on Instagram: instagram.com/forthelrpod Jon Levitt on Instagram: instagram.com/jwlevitt Join the For The Long Run email community: for-the-long-run.beehiiv.com This episode is supported by: Boulderthon: Our favorite Colorado race event with a variety of distances. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off the marathon or half marathon when you register at www.boulderthon.org. Tifosi Optics: Fantastic sunglasses for every type of run. Anti-bounce fit, shatterproof, and scratch resistant. Use code FTLR for 15% off your pair at https://alnk.to/3ybGCzH. PUMA: My current top shoe is the Deviate Nitro First Mile. Get 20% off any PUMA run or train products from shoes to apparel with code FTLR24 at www.puma.com.

This episode is with Carolina Rubio-MacWright: mom and ultrarunner who recently completed the 2024 Western States 100 miler. She describes herself as a dreamer who is happier in the woods and passionate about building a better world than we have now. Carolina immigrated to the United States from Colombia, and now works as an immigration lawyer in New York.  In this episode we talk about: -representation and diversity at the Western States 100 miler -running for freedom and joy -from beginner trail runner to 100 mile finisher -the power of community and connection  -increasing diversity in trail running; being a changemaker  -the reality of creating change: longer timeframes, collective efforts and ripple effects  We mentioned For The Long Run Episode 250. Jad Daley: The Marathon Owes You Nothing. Find out more about Carolina Rubio-MacWright and her Touching Land program. Follow Carolina on Instagram @carustol and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  If you want to join us for exclusive deals, giveaways, and community connection with other listeners of the show, head to the link in the show notes to join our brand new community, The Group Run. No paywall, just sign up to be part of our community and have the chance to win cool stuff and connect with me and other audience members! https://app.dropstation.io/forthelongrun --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! Boulderthon Boulderthon is Colorado's premier fall event and was just rated top 10 in America by USA Today. This annual sell-out race is one of the fastest-growing in the country, and features a 5K, 10K, Half, Full and even a Kids Run. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off Half or Full to reserve your sport and save! Register today at www.boulderthon.org. 2Before 2Before is a natural sports performance supplement made from New Zealand Blackcurrant berries that have exceptionally high antioxidant levels and are proven to enhance athletic performance, improve endurance, help kick-start recovery, and strengthen immunity. Use code FTLR at 2before.com to save 30% on 20 and multiserve packs.

This episode is with Molly Hurford, an extremely multifaceted human. Molly is a long-time sports journalist, author, the co-founder of the Consummate Athlete podcast with her husband, and most recently started her own publishing company “Strong Girl Publishing” to inspire girls and young women to stay active and enjoy reading. She is also a seasoned endurance athlete, participating in cycling, Ironman triathlon, trail and ultrarunning, and is mom to an adorable little Dachshund named DW.  In this episode we talk about: -how to juggle many jobs and passions -enjoying the outdoors; finding endurance sports and ultrarunning -increasing women in sports -biking racing and becoming a cycling fan -training for and racing the Leadville 100 -problem solving on the run -Consummate Athlete podcast and coaching Check out the Consummate Athlete and Strong Girl Publishing. Follow Molly on Instagram @mollyjhurford Consummate Athlete @consummateathlete Strong Girl Publishing @stronggirlpublishing and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  If you want to join us for exclusive deals, giveaways, and community connection with other listeners of the show, head to the link in the show notes to join our brand new community, The Group Run. No paywall, just sign up to be part of our community and have the chance to win cool stuff and connect with me and other audience members! https://app.dropstation.io/forthelongrun --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! BetterHelp BetterHelp, you can tap into a network of over 25,000 licensed and experienced therapists who can help you with a wide range of issues. If you’re ready to do the internal work, go to betterhelp.com/FTLR. Tifosi With an anti-bounce fit, shatterproof and scratch resistant lenses, and rubber pads on the nose so that sweat doesn’t get in the way of being able to see, Tifosi sunglasses are made with activity in mind. Use code FTLR for 15% off a pair through this link. I suggest the Swank or Tsali models. Boulderthon Boulderthon is Colorado's premier fall event and was just rated top 10 in America by USA Today. This annual sell-out race is one of the fastest-growing in the country, and features a 5K, 10K, Half, Full and even a Kids Run. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off Half or Full to reserve your sport and save! Register today at www.boulderthon.org.

This episode is with runner and entrepreneur Albie Masland. Albie is a husband, father and friend, a builder, dreamer, doer, entrepreneur and endurance athlete. A former college lacrosse player, Albie found distance running as an outlet for disappointment and failure, and to help balance out his other identities and life priorities. In 2012, and with little training, Albie ran across the United States, from California to Washington, D.C. In this episode we talk about: -running to overcome failure and life challenges ‘ -running across America on a whim -founding the brand “Levitate”: helping people do more with cannabinoids and functional mushrooms -the importance of being relentless and curious -the intersection between endurance and entrepreneurship  Shop Levitate and get 25% off your first purchase with code FTLR25. Follow Albie on Instagram @albie_tross Levitate @get.levitate and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  If you want to join us for exclusive deals, giveaways, and community connection with other listeners of the show, head to the link in the show notes to join our brand new community, The Group Run. No paywall, just sign up to be part of our community and have the chance to win cool stuff and connect with me and other audience members! https://app.dropstation.io/forthelongrun --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! Tifosi With an anti-bounce fit, shatterproof and scratch resistant lenses, and rubber pads on the nose so that sweat doesn’t get in the way of being able to see, Tifosi sunglasses are made with activity in mind. Use code FTLR for 15% off a pair through this link. I suggest the Swank or Tsali models. PUMA This episode of the For The Long Run Podcast is sponsored by PUMA.  I’ve been running in the Deviate Nitro First Mile and I love how it has a focus on sustainability, made from at least 20% recycled material. Check out a pair for yourself at PUMA.com and use the code FTLR24 for 20% off any PUMA run or train products. Boulderthon Boulderthon is Colorado's premier fall event and was just rated top 10 in America by USA Today. This annual sell-out race is one of the fastest-growing in the country, and features a 5K, 10K, Half, Full and even a Kids Run. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off Half or Full to reserve your sport and save! Register today at www.boulderthon.org.

This episode is with Dr. Grant Lipman, founder of GOES Health, a wilderness medicine resource designed to democratize outdoor health through an app. Dr. Lipman is fascinated by how humans adapt and perform in extreme environments, including athletes at altitude. He also enjoys trail running with his dog, climbing mountains and skiing.  Topic timestamps: 3:20 Introduction to Dr. Grant Lipman and this episode 8:40 Altitude: the effects on the body and performance; acclimatization and training 20:35 Heat/ cooling: hydration; performing in hot conditions; cooling strategies 31:10 Anti Inflammatories: potential risks; pain management during races  35:20 Blisters: prevention and treatment with paper tape 39:40 GOES app: an outdoor medicine resource; GOES founding story 51:50 What did we miss? Sodium supplementation; ice baths, sauna and heat Check out GOES and reach Dr. Lipman at drgrant@goes.health  Here are the links to the studies Dr. Lipman referenced: Ibuprofen prevents altitude illness  High altitude sleep tents Acetazolamide on sleep Chemical cold packs for cooling Acute kidney injury in ultramarathon runners Ibuprofen effect on AKI in ultramarathons  Blister treatment Factors contributing to successful ultramarathons Paper tape for blister prevention Chemical cold packs for cooling Sodium supplements and performance in ultramarathons Large volume hypertonic saline for exercise-associated hyponatremia Follow GOES on Instagram @goeshealth and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  If you want to join us for exclusive deals, giveaways, and community connection with other listeners of the show, head to the link in the show notes to join our brand new community, The Group Run. No paywall, just sign up to be part of our community and have the chance to win cool stuff and connect with me and other audience members! https://app.dropstation.io/forthelongrun --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! PUMA This episode of the For The Long Run Podcast is sponsored by PUMA.  I’ve been running in the Deviate Nitro First Mile and I love how it has a focus on sustainability, made from at least 20% recycled material. Check out a pair for yourself at PUMA.com and use the code FTLR24 for 20% off any PUMA run or train products. Boulderthon Boulderthon is Colorado's premier fall event and was just rated top 10 in America by USA Today. This annual sell-out race is one of the fastest-growing in the country, and features a 5K, 10K, Half, Full and even a Kids Run. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off Half or Full to reserve your sport and save! Register today at www.boulderthon.org. Tifosi With an anti-bounce fit, shatterproof and scratch resistant lenses, and rubber pads on the nose so that sweat doesn’t get in the way of being able to see, Tifosi sunglasses are made with activity in mind. Use code FTLR for 15% off a pair through this link. I suggest the Swank or Tsali models. https://tifosioptics.com/?avad=330693_b3b6ec139

This episode is with sports fanatic and entrepreneur Jamie Mittelman. Jamie describes herself as a 36-year old from Boston who grew up obsessed with sports and decided to make a career out of it. She is a lifelong athlete who played soccer in college, before mixing her passion with her profession, and founding Flame Bearers to share unsung stories of resilient women. In this episode we talk about: -blending passion with profession  -Flame Bearers: Jamie’s media, production, and content company, telling stories of female athletes -elevating women in all sports, of all backgrounds, in the Olympics and Paralympics -athlete representation, sponsorship, compensation, and networking -3 ways to support women's sports and athletes: (1) Watch women’s sports (2) Buy women’s swag; support female athletes’ businesses and side hustles (3) Call out gender inequities Check out Flame Bearers on Instagram and YouTube @flamebearers and https://flamebearers.com/  We mentioned: For The Long Run Episode 263. Dani Aravich: Fighting For Inclusivity in Sport Parity: a platform for pro women athlete partnerships  https://paritynow.co/ and this study: https://impact.paritynow.co/largest-global-study-of-its-kind-reveals-womens-sports-fandom-is-moving  Follow Jamie on Instagram @jamiemittleman and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  If you want to join us for exclusive deals, giveaways, and community connection with other listeners of the show, head to the link in the show notes to join our brand new community, The Group Run. No paywall, just sign up to be part of our community and have the chance to win cool stuff and connect with me and other audience members! https://app.dropstation.io/forthelongrun --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! 2Before 2Before is a natural sports performance supplement made from New Zealand Blackcurrant berries that have exceptionally high antioxidant levels and are proven to enhance athletic performance, improve endurance, help kick-start recovery, and strengthen immunity. Use code FTLR at 2before.com to save 30% on 20 and multiserve packs.  Boulderthon Boulderthon is Colorado's premier fall event and was just rated top 10 in America by USA Today. This annual sell-out race is one of the fastest-growing in the country, and features a 5K, 10K, Half, Full and even a Kids Run. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off Half or Full to reserve your sport and save! Register today at www.boulderthon.org. Tifosi With an anti-bounce fit, shatterproof and scratch resistant lenses, and rubber pads on the nose so that sweat doesn’t get in the way of being able to see, Tifosi sunglasses are made with activity in mind. Use code FTLR for 15% off a pair through this link. I suggest the Swank or Tsali models.

This episode is with Olympian and professional marathon runner Rory Linkletter. He is a father of two, avid sports fan, passionate runner, and a Christian. Rory is currently training for the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris, where he will represent Team Canada in the marathon. He ran a 2:08:01 marathon to qualify for the Olympics by only 9 seconds!  In this episode we talk about: -the importance of trusting the process -qualifying and training for the 2024 Olympics -running professionally for PUMA: shoe development, athlete and community support, brand marketing  -athletes as influencers and content creators -mixing running with faith as a Christian -athlete and male mental health and therapy Check out Rory’s YouTube channel @LinkletterRory and Strava at Rory Linkletter Follow Rory on Instagram @rory_linkletter and For The Long Run @forthelrpod  If you want to join us for exclusive deals, giveaways, and community connection with other listeners of the show, head to the link in the show notes to join our brand new community, The Group Run. No paywall, just sign up to be part of our community and have the chance to win cool stuff and connect with me and other audience members! https://app.dropstation.io/forthelongrun --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support  Past guests on For The Long Run include: 177. Molly Seidel; 226. Mike "Kofuzi"; 228. Kara Goucher; 59. Shalane Flanagan; 234. Camille Herron; 198. Courtney Frerichs; 229. Jes Woods; 207. Tyler Andrews; 197. Dean Karnazes; 206. Katie Arnold; 220. CJ Albertson; 153. Joe Holder; 199. Kelly Roberts; 188. Gwen Jorgensen; 205. Emily Abbate; 209. Sara Vaughn; 174. Nick Bare; 97 Amelia Boone; 101. Courtney Dauwalter, 219. Dylan Bowman; 191. Matt Chittim; 200. David Roche; and more! Boulderthon Boulderthon is Colorado's premier fall event and was just rated top 10 in America by USA Today. This annual sell-out race is one of the fastest-growing in the country, and features a 5K, 10K, Half, Full and even a Kids Run. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off Half or Full to reserve your sport and save! Register today at www.boulderthon.org. Tifosi With an anti-bounce fit, shatterproof and scratch resistant lenses, and rubber pads on the nose so that sweat doesn’t get in the way of being able to see, Tifosi sunglasses are made with activity in mind. Use code FTLR for 15% off a pair through this link. I suggest the Swank or Tsali models. HydraPak HydraPak create better hydration solutions for performance-driven people, and have been helping us stay hydrated and happy out on the trails for years! Use code FTLR for 20% off HydraPak hydration hand-helds, filtration, collapsible flasks, and reservoirs, and to show your support of the For The Long Run team. Ketone-IQIf you’re curious about ketones and want sustained energy and mental clarity, head over to Ketone-IQ at ketone.com/FTLR link in the bio to get 30% off your subscription.