The Bulwark Podcast

Governor Andy Beshear, chair of the Democratic Governors Association, discusses the impact of SNAP cuts and tariffs on Kentuckians, emphasizing community support amidst federal neglect. He advocates for clear messaging to rural voters, focusing on jobs and healthcare. Meanwhile, Terry Moran, a former ABC correspondent, shares insights from Chicago's immigration raids, highlighting local resistance by faith leaders and community members. The two tackle pressing political issues while reflecting on journalistic integrity and the importance of holding truth to power.

Bill Kristol, a prominent political commentator and founder of conservative publications, joins Tim Miller to dissect Trump's recent '60 Minutes' interview. They delve into CBS News' edits and the controversy surrounding Trump's claims of being paid off. The duo critiques Trump's 2020 election lies, his pardoning of a crypto figure tied to the Trump family, and escalating rhetoric about war and immigration. They also discuss the growing need for Democrats to present a united front against Trump as they navigate upcoming elections.

Catherine Rampell, economics journalist and newly appointed economics editor at The Bulwark, dives deep into the current state of the economy. She discusses how tariffs impact businesses, particularly in rural communities, and links tight immigration policies to labor shortages and rising food prices. Rampell critiques the government's equity stake in companies as a form of 'socializing' the economy, while also exploring the implications of AI on job markets and investment. Plus, she shares insights on the evolving political landscape in NYC.

Heidi Heitkamp, former U.S. Senator from North Dakota and chair of the One Country Project, dives deep into the impact of Trump’s trade chaos on farmers. She reveals how his trade deals have harmed agricultural markets, particularly soybeans. Heitkamp addresses the challenges facing rural economies and urges Democrats to reconnect with voters through authentic economic policies. She advocates for grassroots solutions to political gridlock while assessing the need for bold, nontraditional candidates to energize the party.

Abby Phillip, anchor of CNN NewsNight and author of "A Dream Deferred: Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power," dives into the complexities of modern governance and social media's influence. She discusses the unusual dynamics of the government shutdown and how it impacts SNAP and Obamacare. Abby critiques the meme-driven political landscape and champions open debate on her show. She also explores Jesse Jackson's lasting impact on populism and modern political figures like Bernie Sanders and Trump, highlighting the intersection of race and activism.

Sam Stein, Managing Editor at The Bulwark and a sharp political analyst, teams up with Francis Fukuyama, renowned political scientist and author. They dive deep into the aggressive deportation tactics emerging in Chicago and how Trump's allies are eager to escalate this nationwide. Fukuyama examines why populism thrives even in prosperous times, linking it to the dynamics of social media and cultural grievances. The duo also critiques liberalism’s challenges and explores how enforced social norms can alienate potential supporters.

Bill Kristol, a renowned political commentator and conservative analyst, joins to discuss the latest chaos in U.S. trade policy. He critiques Trump's tariffs on Canadian goods, exposing how they harm American farmers. Kristol delves into the alarming corruption linked to Trump Jr. and highlights corporate America's complicity with the administration. He also considers the potential for reform-minded Democrats in this populist age and reflects on the risks of a Trump VP candidacy in 2028. The discussion balances dark political realities with a glimmer of hope for democracy.

Ryan Holiday, an author and expert on Stoic philosophy, shares insights from his latest book, Wisdom Takes Work. He emphasizes the importance of opposing bootlicking in politics and how ancient wisdom remains relevant in today's landscape. Ryan discusses the dangers of echo chambers, particularly for figures like Elon Musk and Trump, noting how their media diets skew reality. He offers advice on avoiding groupthink, urging listeners to seek diverse information sources. Plus, he suggests ways to engage modern men with Stoic values.

Anna Bower, a Senior Editor at Lawfare and investigative reporter, shares her surprising communication with U.S. Attorney Lindsey Halligan, discussing the peculiar norms surrounding prosecutors reaching out to the media. Meanwhile, Ben Wittes, Editor-in-Chief of Lawfare, delves into the implications of Trump's outrageous demand for $230 million in damages from the DOJ, highlighting ethical conflicts for involved attorneys. The duo navigates through legal intricacies and absurdities surrounding high-profile prosecutions with sharp insight and wit.

Jon Favreau, co-founder of Crooked Media and a former White House speechwriter, discusses vital issues facing America, including the alarming practices of ICE and the impact of public perception on immigration enforcement. He highlights the troubling fitness standards for ICE recruits and the dangerous consequences of political rhetoric labeling Democrats as terrorists. Favreau advocates for relatable candidates in politics, emphasizing the need to win working-class voters and strategize effectively against authoritarian threats.