The Bulwark Podcast Bill Kristol: Fake News on '60 Minutes'
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Nov 3, 2025 
Bill Kristol, a prominent political commentator and founder of conservative publications, joins Tim Miller to dissect Trump's recent '60 Minutes' interview. They delve into CBS News' edits and the controversy surrounding Trump's claims of being paid off. The duo critiques Trump's 2020 election lies, his pardoning of a crypto figure tied to the Trump family, and escalating rhetoric about war and immigration. They also discuss the growing need for Democrats to present a united front against Trump as they navigate upcoming elections.
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60 Minutes' Omission Suggests Compromised Coverage
- CBS heavily edited Trump's 60 Minutes interview, removing his 2020 lies and the segment where he claimed 60 Minutes paid him off.
- Tim and Bill argue that omission suggests potential media compromise and harms journalistic accountability.
Believed Lies Are More Dangerous Than Lying
- Trump's insistence that the 2020 election was stolen signals either deliberate deception or sincere delusion.
- Bill warns that a leader who believes falsehoods poses a unique long-term danger to democratic norms.
Make Corruption A Central, Learnable Issue
- Democrats should emphasize corruption as a central campaign theme and learn the crypto story's basics.
- Tim recommends the party study crypto so corruption narratives around Trump family's deals become politically effective.