2 Pastors and a Mic

After taking the summer off, Channock and Cory are back in the studio for a brand-new episode of Two Pastors and a Mic! In this episode, they share a full summer recap - from wild travel stories in Africa and Guatemala to exciting updates with ReLife, a powerful nonprofit initiative providing housing for single moms.They also dive into the release of Channock’s book, Enough Already, Cory’s new emotional health ebook, and an upcoming 2026 intensive program. Plus, don’t miss the hilarious Ben Stiller story, the royalty necklace ceremony that empowered 80 Guatemalan kids, and a powerful conversation about what it means to live as royalty as sons and daughters of God.00:00 – Welcome Back & Intro00:42 – Audience Feedback on Shane Willard Episodes02:15 – Shoutouts to Listeners & Supporters04:22 – Funny Aldi & Ben Stiller Story06:20 – Global Podcast Audience & Travel Updates07:14 – Summer Recap & Back to Routine09:03 – ReLife Updates: New HQ & Housing Projects11:18 – ReLife Becomes an Official Nonprofit13:07 – Book Release: Enough Already14:27 – New Emotional Health Ebook & 2026 Intensive17:00 – Africa Trip Experiences & Culture of Honor21:32 – Necklace Ceremony & Bringing African Culture Home23:59 – Empowering Orphans in Guatemala with Royalty Ceremony26:05 – Hilarious Rat Story During African Service27:21 – Reflections on Summer Ministry & Services28:38 – Living as Royalty: Empowerment Message31:58 – Closing Thoughts: You Are Loved & RoyaltyResources & Links:- Get Channock’s book Enough Already: [https://www.amazon.com/Enough-Already-Private-Performance-Freedom/dp/1966818068]- Download Cory’s free ebook: [https://coryrice.gumroad.com/l/emotionallywhole]- Learn more about ReLife or get involved: https://thepowerofre.comDon’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe!

In this special episode, we’re sharing an incredible message from Shane Willard, recorded live at Hill City Church.Shane Willard takes us on a mind-blowing journey through the entire Bible in just 38 minutes! He unpacks how humanity’s understanding of God has evolved from distant and demanding to close and compassionate, all culminating in the revelation of Jesus Christ and God living in us.00:00 - Welcome & Podcast Intro00:45 - Book Release Reminder01:13 - Introducing Shane Willard Sermon Series02:40 - Shane Willard Takes the Stage03:57 - Shane on Hospitality & Background05:11 - Shane's Resource Table & Mission Work06:26 - A Prayer Before the Sermon06:56 - How to Understand the Whole Bible08:14 - Five Words That Explain the Bible09:36 - Abraham's Day: God Lived Up12:03 - Moon, Fertility, and Ancient Beliefs14:01 - Moses's Day: God Lived in a Tent15:01 - David's Day: God Lived in a Temple15:57 - Jesus's Day: God Lived in Flesh16:54 - Paul's Day: God Lives in Us17:44 - God Getting Nicer Through History18:52 - Sacrifice & Mutilation in Ancient Times21:04 - Abraham’s Encounter with El Shaddai24:13 - God Moves from Child Sacrifice to Animal Sacrifice26:31 - Moses's Revelation: One Sacrifice, One Cut28:45 - Prophets Begin Shifting the Narrative33:30 - Jesus's Radical Forgiveness Examples36:08 - Salvation Outside Temple Rituals40:08 - The Faith of Others Interceding41:06 - God Always Like Jesus from the Beginning42:48 - Whole Bible Summary Recap43:23 - Blessing & Final Words from Shane44:40 - Channock & Cory Closing Reflections46:09 - Invitation to Support Shane’s Ministry46:30 - Closing Blessing & Next Week’s Preview

In this special episode, Shane Willard brings a powerful, practical, and perspective-shifting message from Philippians 2. What does it really mean to “do all things without grumbling”? And how does our attitude impact the way the world sees Jesus in us?With historical insights, psychological wisdom, and classic Shane humor, this sermon challenges us to stop complaining, regain perspective, and become people who shine like stars in a dark world.00:00 - Intro & July Update  00:50 - "Enough Already" Book Shoutout  01:32 - Why Shane Willard Sermons This Month  03:18 - Shane’s Intro & Mission  06:11 - Opening the Bible: Philippians 2  07:13 - Do All Things Without Grumbling  10:35 - Historical Backdrop of Philippi  13:49 - Paul’s Arrest & Final Words  20:11 - Don’t Be Like the Grumbling Israelites  21:05 - Grumbling as a Clanging Gong  23:59 - Hope Requires Perspective  25:56 - Be Part of the Song, Not the Gong  27:26 - Why We Grumble  30:53 - Perspective: Then vs. Now  33:41 - Don’t Miss the Water for the Mud  35:36 - Comparison & Sacred Object Syndrome  39:00 - Freezing the Present  42:57 - Final Summary: No Grumbling, Shine Like Stars  43:50 - What This Means for Us

Is the Bible really as simple as we've made it? In this powerful message, Shane Willard unpacks why so many people are deconstructing their faith - not because they’re walking away from Jesus, but because they’re wrestling with how we’ve interpreted Scripture.00:00 - Intro & July Update  00:52 - Sermons by Shane Willard Explained  03:12 - Why the Bible Is Under Attack  07:21 - What Needs Deconstructing  10:25 - Problems with Static Bible Reading  12:21 - The Bible's Historical Arc  18:02 - Genre Confusion & Biblical Interpretation  24:40 - Questions About Hell, Heaven, & More  29:40 - Is the Bible Simple?  32:00 - Understanding the Book of Job  40:00 - Wisdom Literature & Suffering  43:00 - Deuteronomy & Problematic Passages  53:00 - God and Genocide in Psalm 137  54:00 - How to Read the Bible Faithfully

In this special episode of Two Pastors and a Mic, we share a thought-provoking message from Shane Willard that challenges the way many of us were taught to read the Bible.Is the Bible simple, clear, and static - or is it ancient, diverse, and complex? Shane dives deep into the nature of inspiration, why Jesus and Paul approached Scripture so radically, and how truth is better understood through three layers: literal, symbolic, and evental.00:00 - Welcome & Housekeeping  01:04 - Introducing Shane Willard's Sermons  02:45 - Why Share Shane's Messages  03:11 - Opening Affirmation on Scripture  04:37 - Paul & Jesus on Inspiration  06:00 - Jesus' Radical Acts of Compassion  08:15 - Meaning of Inspiration  09:15 - Breath, Inspire, and Expire  10:36 - The Bible as Ancient, Diverse, Complex  13:33 - Three Layers of Truth: Literal, Symbolic, Evental  17:06 - The Meaning of the Cross  19:55 - The Power of Personal Meaning  22:28 - Levels of Engagement with Scripture  25:08 - Stories of Disobedience and Tragedy  27:06 - Descriptive vs Prescriptive Scripture  28:05 - Use of Fiction and External Literature  28:47 - Contradictions & Evolving Views  30:07 - Voices in Scripture: Victim, Accuser, Christ  31:11 - How the Early Church Read Scripture  31:51 - The Five Guiding Rules of Interpretation  33:07 - Biblical vs Christ-Centered Society  34:36 - Genre-Specific Interpretation  35:18 - Incarnational Nature of Scripture  35:38 - The Bible as a Pilgrimage Story  36:22 - Examples of Genre and Literary Devices  37:42 - Human Voice in Scripture  39:49 - Doubting an Unworthy Image of Jesus  40:10 - Break Before Next Session

In this powerful message from Shane Willard, originally shared at the CIM Network Conference hosted by Hill City Church, we explore one of the most challenging and freeing questions for the Church today: Are we building fences to keep people out, or digging wells to draw people in?Using the story of the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8, Shane unpacks what it means to move from a fence-based to a well-based faith - where inclusion, love, and transformation take priority over exclusion and rule-keeping. This teaching will stretch your perspective, challenge old paradigms, and inspire you to reimagine what it means to be a follower of Jesus in today’s world.00:00 - Intro & Podcast Update01:14 - Why We’re Sharing Shane Willard’s Sermons02:54 - Shane’s Opening & Vision for the Weekend06:48 - Two Framing Stories10:46 - From Fences to Wells11:13 - Acts 8 and the Eunuch's Question17:05 - Fence-Based vs. Well-Based Paradigms23:03 - The Unexpected Fruit in Ethiopia23:47 - 10 Contrasts Between Fence & Well-Based Churches27:06 - Hiddenness vs. Honesty in Church Culture28:09 - Measuring Distance vs. Direction31:24 - The Atheist Door Greeter Story33:04 - Legal Transaction vs. Way of Life36:12 - Heaven Now, Not Just Someday37:01 - God for Me vs. God for the World39:06 - From ‘Saved’ to ‘Thirsty’40:09 - What Makes a Thirsty Culture?41:47 - Jesus Redefines Access at the Temple43:30 - Wrestling With Application47:56 - Are We Digging Wells or Building Fences?49:06 - Final Blessing & Challenge

In this episode, we celebrate the release of Channock's first book, Enough Already. Hear the behind-the-scenes journey of writing, the emotional breakthroughs along the way, and why this legacy project matters. Whether you're an aspiring author or just love a good redemption story, this one will inspire you.00:00 - Intro & Birthday Shoutout00:51 - The Book Is Officially Live!01:52 - Why Channock Wrote "Enough Already"03:16 - Accountability and the 3-Year Delay04:49 - The Shancock Bante Alter Ego06:32 - Wrestling with Identity and Freedom08:00 - Writing Process and Chapter Development10:45 - Tools and Help Along the Way12:21 - Misconceptions About Shancock Bante13:54 - Childhood, Church Trauma, and Expectations15:00 - Creating the Book Outline16:06 - The War Room Milestone17:36 - Editing, Reordering, and Final Chapter19:05 - Favorite and Hardest Chapters to Write21:00 - Full Chapter Titles Overview23:22 - Chapter Highlights and Reflections25:02 - Title Meaning: Enough Already26:16 - A Bold and Vulnerable Confession27:00 - Final Thoughts and Encouragement

In this episode, we sit down with Jamie Englehart to talk grace, identity, emotional health, and spiritual growth. Jamie unpacks the difference between objective and subjective truth and shares why emotional healing is essential before spiritual maturity. We also discuss Channock’s new book Enough Already - launching June 25 on Amazon!Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe.00:00 - Intro & Book Launch01:21 - Jamie Englehart Joins the Conversation03:27 - Jamie’s Impact and Ministry Heart04:25 - Objective vs Subjective Truth07:04 - Faith, Healing, and Experiencing Truth10:03 - True Gospel and Experiential Transformation11:09 - Advice for Young Leaders13:05 - Emotional Health Before Theology17:01 - Study People, Not Just Theology19:48 - Fathers Meet Needs, Not All Needs20:59 - What Hills Are You Willing to Die On?26:59 - All Are Children of God27:59 - Upcoming Africa Trip & Staying Grounded29:46 - Follow Jamie & Final Words30:04 - Outro

In this episode, we welcome back Dr. Robin Smit to talk all things writing, publishing, and legacy. Whether you’ve dreamed of writing a book or just need a creative nudge, this conversation is packed with encouragement, practical advice, and stories that will inspire you to start.00:00 - Intro & Welcome  00:52 - Special Guest: Dr. Robin Smit Returns  01:44 - Why Everyone Should Write a Book  02:36 - Founding of TWWS (The Writers' Society)  03:28 - From Workshops to Publishing  04:20 - Helping Authors Like Don Keathley & Tommy Miller05:12 - Saying Yes to Empowering Writers  06:04 - Publishing Growth & Author Milestones  06:56 - The Legacy Society & Honoring Seasoned Voices  07:48 - Co-Authored Projects: Free to Give, Gather & Be Free  08:40 - Finding Your Voice: Women Authors Project  09:32 - Resurrection Life: Poetry & Art Collaboration  10:24 - Workshops for Aspiring Authors  11:16 - The Mentoring Workshop Experience  12:08 - Robin’s Tips for New Writers  13:00 - Channock’s Journey to Becoming an Author  13:52 - Writing for Legacy and Family  14:44 - How to Start: Write One Story at a Time  15:36 - The Power of Momentum in Writing  16:28 - Memoirs That Transform Lives  17:20 - Don’t Let Your Story Die with You  18:12 - Legacy over Bestseller Status  19:04 - How to Connect with Robin & TWWS  19:56 - Final Encouragement & Podcast Sign-Off

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Robin Smit to discuss her book Behold the Lamb, the finished work of Christ, and why our identity as sinless is a game-changer. Packed with insight, encouragement, and powerful truths about grace, we think you'll enjoy this conversation.00:00 - Welcome and Milestone Announcement01:10 - Introducing Dr. Robin Smit01:49 - Book Series Overview & Two-Part Interview02:24 - Travel and Author Update02:44 - Robin’s Writing Journey Begins03:41 - From Article to First Book04:48 - Publishing Strategy and Second Book05:35 - Writing Challenges and Book Three06:04 - Behold the Lamb: Doctoral Dissertation06:38 - Why “Behold the Lamb” Matters07:52 - How Many Books Has Robin Written?08:54 - Roots of Grace Revelation09:53 - Embracing Whole Redemption Now10:42 - Once You See It, You Can’t Unsee It11:55 - Key Teachings and Identity Language13:00 - Exploring Sin as Dysfunction14:06 - Adam’s Identity as Son of God14:58 - Book Recommendation & Wrap-Up