What if perfection wasn’t about behaving flawlessly - but about expressing mercy from who you already are?
In this episode of Two Pastors and a Mic, Cory and Channock unpack the eBook How to Be Perfect, and they flip the entire idea of perfection on its head. Instead of moral pressure and performance, they explore Jesus’ teaching that perfection looks like mercy, not mastery - and how experiencing God’s love transforms the way we express it to others.
You’ll hear:
💫 Why “be perfect” in Matthew 5 actually means “be merciful” in Luke 6
💛 How perfection is something you experience through Christ, not achieve
🪞 Why expressing mercy is the truest evidence of spiritual maturity
🎉 The Prodigal Son: “He heard the dancing” - and what that means for Christians today
👁️ What it means to be “pure in heart” and see people as God sees them
🌱 The 3 I’s of Kingdom Living: Identity, Inheritance, Influence
🔥 The four ways you reflect God’s nature: creating, giving, restoring, sustaining
This episode will challenge your definition of perfection, free you from performance, and help you live from the mercy that’s already in you.
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00:00 - Intro & Listener Shout-outs
01:30 - Back in the Booth + Cancun Recap
01:50 - Free eBooks & November Release (Prayer & Prophecy)
03:15 - What’s Next? Clarity, Content & RElife Focus
04:40 - RElife Update: Affordable Housing for Single Moms
06:00 - Mom Graduates to Habitat for Humanity
06:46 - Today’s Topic: How to Be Perfect
07:35 - Two E’s: Experience & Express
09:00 - Perfection ≠ Morality; Perfection = Mercy
09:53 - “Be Perfect” = “Be Merciful” (Mt 5:48 / Lk 6:36)
10:53 - Mercy Reframed Through Sonship
15:48 - Mercy as Awareness of Union
16:00 - Prodigal Son: “Heard the Dancing”
17:05 - Do People Hear Your Dancing or Your Critique?
18:00 - Pure in Heart: Seeing People as God Sees
19:58 - Identity, Inheritance, Influence
21:41 - Four Ways We Mirror God: Create, Give, Restore, Sustain
23:42 - Sustaining: The Hard, Unseen Work
26:28 - “Sustaining Becomes Sexy When It’s Celebrated”
27:10 - Reflection Questions & Weekly Challenge
28:50 - Closing: “You’re Loved And There's Nothing You Can Do About It”


