2 Pastors and a Mic

What happens when the voice of should runs your life?In this episode of Two Pastors and a Mic, Cory and Channock unpack Chapters 2 and 3 of Enough Already - The Shame of Should and I Got Robbed. Together they explore how shame-driven expectations steal our joy, how people-pleasing and performance pressure shape our decisions, and how to reclaim freedom in the present moment.You’ll hear:😔 The hidden weight of “should” and how it shapes identity🙋 Stories of people-pleasing, performance, and insecurity😂 Karaoke, dancing, and other ways shame robs us of joy💡 Why awareness is 50% of the battle in overcoming shame🙌 How to find joy in the season you once prayed forThis episode will challenge you to ask: What areas of my life are being robbed by shame? And it will encourage you to reclaim joy, presence, and freedom right where you are.📚 Get Channock’s book Enough Already: [https://www.amazon.com/Enough-Already-Private-Performance-Freedom/dp/1966818068]📚 Download Cory’s free ebook: [https://coryrice.gumroad.com/l/emotionallywhole]🌐 Learn more about ReLife or get involved: https://thepowerofre.com00:00 - Intro & Shoutouts01:01 - Soccer Season & Senior Year Reflections01:41 - Sharing the Podcast & New Listeners02:27 - Rethinking God with Tacos Connection02:50 - Diving into Enough Already (Ch. 2 & 3)03:05 - The Shame of Should04:01 - Gathering Stories of Shame05:51 - People-Pleasing & Early Influences07:22 - Pressure to Always Have the Answer08:59 - Overcompensating in Other Areas09:59 - Impromptu vs. Over-Prepared Speaking11:10 - Cory’s “Should” of Always Doing More12:58 - Ministry Pressure & Workload Shame14:18 - Fear of Not Knowing or Communicating Enough15:55 - Awareness & Work in Progress16:31 - Transition to Chapter 3: I Got Robbed17:22 - Karaoke, Dancing & Shame Stealing Joy18:41 - Competitiveness & Losing Joy in Winning20:24 - What’s Robbing Joy in This Season?22:04 - Changing Perspective & Reclaiming Joy22:48 - Closing Reflection: Mindset & Freedom23:35 - Book Invitation & Final Thoughts24:37 - You’re Loved & Nothing Can Change That

What if your worth had nothing to do with your performance?In this episode of Two Pastors and a Mic, Cory and Channock dive into Chapter 1 of Enough Already, unpacking the story behind the book and the deeper journey from the private hell of performance to the freedom of knowing you’re enough.You’ll hear:✨ The hilarious origin of “Shancock Bante” and why it still matters today💭 How performance culture shapes identity (and how to break free from it)🛑 The inner vows and false beliefs that keep us striving🙌 A vulnerable look at pastoral pressure, insecurity, and emotional health📚 Why this book isn’t a “how-to” but a real-life journey toward freedomIf you’ve ever struggled with the question Am I enough? this episode will encourage and challenge you to lay down the mask and embrace your true identity.📚 Get Channock’s book Enough Already: [https://www.amazon.com/Enough-Already-Private-Performance-Freedom/dp/1966818068]📚 Download Cory’s free ebook: [https://coryrice.gumroad.com/l/emotionallywhole]🌐 Learn more about ReLife or get involved: https://thepowerofre.com00:00 - Welcome & Global Listeners00:37 - Reviews, Support & Feedback01:06 - Refined Series & Deconstruction Sermon02:19 - One-Star Reviews & Funny Feedback03:14 - Audience Engagement & Accessibility03:44 - Introducing Enough Already04:55 - How the Book Got Its Title06:17 - Writing Journey & Shift in Focus08:01 - Emotional Health & Healing Journey09:42 - Performance, Identity & Freedom11:04 - Processing Insecurities & Growth12:00 - The Aruba Story: Becoming Shancock Bante14:20 - Performance Pressure Growing Up17:18 - Put on the Spot in Ministry19:41 - Performance-Driven Preaching20:49 - The “Jordan Flu Game” Sermon22:18 - Counseling, Core Wounds & Striving23:29 - Masks, Shame & Inner Vows26:01 - Freedom from Performance & Finding Peace27:34 - How This Book Differs from Leadership Guides28:56 - A Glimpse into the Journey29:57 - Closing: Share the Book & What’s Next

In this episode of Two Pastors and a Mic, we share the jaw-dropping true story from Guatemala that’s challenging our doubts and reigniting our faith for miracles - both big and small.You’ll hear:🌱 The backstory of Casa Angelina and their mission to raise orphans into royalty🥑 How one “impossible” harvest turned into four🙏 Honest reflections on miracles, unanswered prayers, and faith in the in-between💡 Why some miracles look supernatural… and others look like steady faithfulnessWhether you’re in a season of doubt, expectancy, or somewhere in between, this story will challenge and inspire you to believe again - for the big, the small, and everything in between.00:00 - Intro & Podcast Update01:00 - Setting Up the Guatemala Story02:04 - Overview of Casa Angelina Orphanage03:29 - The 8-Acre Farm & Incredible Produce05:01 - Avocado Trees & Harvest Timeline06:27 - Unexpected Early Harvest Miracle08:47 - Multiple Harvests in One Year11:14 - Processing Miracles & Personal Doubts13:06 - A Family Miracle Story14:16 - Hurt from Unanswered Prayers15:26 - Forest Frank’s Healing Story15:53 - Renewed Expectancy for Miracles18:25 - Believing for More Miracles18:38 - Everyday Provision as a Miracle20:41 - Gifting of a House for Ministry21:58 - Recognizing Small and Big Miracles23:35 - The True Miracle: The Kids24:37 - Encouragement to Believe Again24:54 - Closing Remarks & Resources

After taking the summer off, Channock and Cory are back in the studio for a brand-new episode of Two Pastors and a Mic! In this episode, they share a full summer recap - from wild travel stories in Africa and Guatemala to exciting updates with ReLife, a powerful nonprofit initiative providing housing for single moms.They also dive into the release of Channock’s book, Enough Already, Cory’s new emotional health ebook, and an upcoming 2026 intensive program. Plus, don’t miss the hilarious Ben Stiller story, the royalty necklace ceremony that empowered 80 Guatemalan kids, and a powerful conversation about what it means to live as royalty as sons and daughters of God.00:00 – Welcome Back & Intro00:42 – Audience Feedback on Shane Willard Episodes02:15 – Shoutouts to Listeners & Supporters04:22 – Funny Aldi & Ben Stiller Story06:20 – Global Podcast Audience & Travel Updates07:14 – Summer Recap & Back to Routine09:03 – ReLife Updates: New HQ & Housing Projects11:18 – ReLife Becomes an Official Nonprofit13:07 – Book Release: Enough Already14:27 – New Emotional Health Ebook & 2026 Intensive17:00 – Africa Trip Experiences & Culture of Honor21:32 – Necklace Ceremony & Bringing African Culture Home23:59 – Empowering Orphans in Guatemala with Royalty Ceremony26:05 – Hilarious Rat Story During African Service27:21 – Reflections on Summer Ministry & Services28:38 – Living as Royalty: Empowerment Message31:58 – Closing Thoughts: You Are Loved & RoyaltyResources & Links:- Get Channock’s book Enough Already: [https://www.amazon.com/Enough-Already-Private-Performance-Freedom/dp/1966818068]- Download Cory’s free ebook: [https://coryrice.gumroad.com/l/emotionallywhole]- Learn more about ReLife or get involved: https://thepowerofre.comDon’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe!

In this special episode, we’re sharing an incredible message from Shane Willard, recorded live at Hill City Church.Shane Willard takes us on a mind-blowing journey through the entire Bible in just 38 minutes! He unpacks how humanity’s understanding of God has evolved from distant and demanding to close and compassionate, all culminating in the revelation of Jesus Christ and God living in us.00:00 - Welcome & Podcast Intro00:45 - Book Release Reminder01:13 - Introducing Shane Willard Sermon Series02:40 - Shane Willard Takes the Stage03:57 - Shane on Hospitality & Background05:11 - Shane's Resource Table & Mission Work06:26 - A Prayer Before the Sermon06:56 - How to Understand the Whole Bible08:14 - Five Words That Explain the Bible09:36 - Abraham's Day: God Lived Up12:03 - Moon, Fertility, and Ancient Beliefs14:01 - Moses's Day: God Lived in a Tent15:01 - David's Day: God Lived in a Temple15:57 - Jesus's Day: God Lived in Flesh16:54 - Paul's Day: God Lives in Us17:44 - God Getting Nicer Through History18:52 - Sacrifice & Mutilation in Ancient Times21:04 - Abraham’s Encounter with El Shaddai24:13 - God Moves from Child Sacrifice to Animal Sacrifice26:31 - Moses's Revelation: One Sacrifice, One Cut28:45 - Prophets Begin Shifting the Narrative33:30 - Jesus's Radical Forgiveness Examples36:08 - Salvation Outside Temple Rituals40:08 - The Faith of Others Interceding41:06 - God Always Like Jesus from the Beginning42:48 - Whole Bible Summary Recap43:23 - Blessing & Final Words from Shane44:40 - Channock & Cory Closing Reflections46:09 - Invitation to Support Shane’s Ministry46:30 - Closing Blessing & Next Week’s Preview

In this special episode, Shane Willard brings a powerful, practical, and perspective-shifting message from Philippians 2. What does it really mean to “do all things without grumbling”? And how does our attitude impact the way the world sees Jesus in us?With historical insights, psychological wisdom, and classic Shane humor, this sermon challenges us to stop complaining, regain perspective, and become people who shine like stars in a dark world.00:00 - Intro & July Update  00:50 - "Enough Already" Book Shoutout  01:32 - Why Shane Willard Sermons This Month  03:18 - Shane’s Intro & Mission  06:11 - Opening the Bible: Philippians 2  07:13 - Do All Things Without Grumbling  10:35 - Historical Backdrop of Philippi  13:49 - Paul’s Arrest & Final Words  20:11 - Don’t Be Like the Grumbling Israelites  21:05 - Grumbling as a Clanging Gong  23:59 - Hope Requires Perspective  25:56 - Be Part of the Song, Not the Gong  27:26 - Why We Grumble  30:53 - Perspective: Then vs. Now  33:41 - Don’t Miss the Water for the Mud  35:36 - Comparison & Sacred Object Syndrome  39:00 - Freezing the Present  42:57 - Final Summary: No Grumbling, Shine Like Stars  43:50 - What This Means for Us

Is the Bible really as simple as we've made it? In this powerful message, Shane Willard unpacks why so many people are deconstructing their faith - not because they’re walking away from Jesus, but because they’re wrestling with how we’ve interpreted Scripture.00:00 - Intro & July Update  00:52 - Sermons by Shane Willard Explained  03:12 - Why the Bible Is Under Attack  07:21 - What Needs Deconstructing  10:25 - Problems with Static Bible Reading  12:21 - The Bible's Historical Arc  18:02 - Genre Confusion & Biblical Interpretation  24:40 - Questions About Hell, Heaven, & More  29:40 - Is the Bible Simple?  32:00 - Understanding the Book of Job  40:00 - Wisdom Literature & Suffering  43:00 - Deuteronomy & Problematic Passages  53:00 - God and Genocide in Psalm 137  54:00 - How to Read the Bible Faithfully

In this special episode of Two Pastors and a Mic, we share a thought-provoking message from Shane Willard that challenges the way many of us were taught to read the Bible.Is the Bible simple, clear, and static - or is it ancient, diverse, and complex? Shane dives deep into the nature of inspiration, why Jesus and Paul approached Scripture so radically, and how truth is better understood through three layers: literal, symbolic, and evental.00:00 - Welcome & Housekeeping  01:04 - Introducing Shane Willard's Sermons  02:45 - Why Share Shane's Messages  03:11 - Opening Affirmation on Scripture  04:37 - Paul & Jesus on Inspiration  06:00 - Jesus' Radical Acts of Compassion  08:15 - Meaning of Inspiration  09:15 - Breath, Inspire, and Expire  10:36 - The Bible as Ancient, Diverse, Complex  13:33 - Three Layers of Truth: Literal, Symbolic, Evental  17:06 - The Meaning of the Cross  19:55 - The Power of Personal Meaning  22:28 - Levels of Engagement with Scripture  25:08 - Stories of Disobedience and Tragedy  27:06 - Descriptive vs Prescriptive Scripture  28:05 - Use of Fiction and External Literature  28:47 - Contradictions & Evolving Views  30:07 - Voices in Scripture: Victim, Accuser, Christ  31:11 - How the Early Church Read Scripture  31:51 - The Five Guiding Rules of Interpretation  33:07 - Biblical vs Christ-Centered Society  34:36 - Genre-Specific Interpretation  35:18 - Incarnational Nature of Scripture  35:38 - The Bible as a Pilgrimage Story  36:22 - Examples of Genre and Literary Devices  37:42 - Human Voice in Scripture  39:49 - Doubting an Unworthy Image of Jesus  40:10 - Break Before Next Session

In this powerful message from Shane Willard, originally shared at the CIM Network Conference hosted by Hill City Church, we explore one of the most challenging and freeing questions for the Church today: Are we building fences to keep people out, or digging wells to draw people in?Using the story of the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8, Shane unpacks what it means to move from a fence-based to a well-based faith - where inclusion, love, and transformation take priority over exclusion and rule-keeping. This teaching will stretch your perspective, challenge old paradigms, and inspire you to reimagine what it means to be a follower of Jesus in today’s world.00:00 - Intro & Podcast Update01:14 - Why We’re Sharing Shane Willard’s Sermons02:54 - Shane’s Opening & Vision for the Weekend06:48 - Two Framing Stories10:46 - From Fences to Wells11:13 - Acts 8 and the Eunuch's Question17:05 - Fence-Based vs. Well-Based Paradigms23:03 - The Unexpected Fruit in Ethiopia23:47 - 10 Contrasts Between Fence & Well-Based Churches27:06 - Hiddenness vs. Honesty in Church Culture28:09 - Measuring Distance vs. Direction31:24 - The Atheist Door Greeter Story33:04 - Legal Transaction vs. Way of Life36:12 - Heaven Now, Not Just Someday37:01 - God for Me vs. God for the World39:06 - From ‘Saved’ to ‘Thirsty’40:09 - What Makes a Thirsty Culture?41:47 - Jesus Redefines Access at the Temple43:30 - Wrestling With Application47:56 - Are We Digging Wells or Building Fences?49:06 - Final Blessing & Challenge

In this episode, we celebrate the release of Channock's first book, Enough Already. Hear the behind-the-scenes journey of writing, the emotional breakthroughs along the way, and why this legacy project matters. Whether you're an aspiring author or just love a good redemption story, this one will inspire you.00:00 - Intro & Birthday Shoutout00:51 - The Book Is Officially Live!01:52 - Why Channock Wrote "Enough Already"03:16 - Accountability and the 3-Year Delay04:49 - The Shancock Bante Alter Ego06:32 - Wrestling with Identity and Freedom08:00 - Writing Process and Chapter Development10:45 - Tools and Help Along the Way12:21 - Misconceptions About Shancock Bante13:54 - Childhood, Church Trauma, and Expectations15:00 - Creating the Book Outline16:06 - The War Room Milestone17:36 - Editing, Reordering, and Final Chapter19:05 - Favorite and Hardest Chapters to Write21:00 - Full Chapter Titles Overview23:22 - Chapter Highlights and Reflections25:02 - Title Meaning: Enough Already26:16 - A Bold and Vulnerable Confession27:00 - Final Thoughts and Encouragement