Team Deakins

Ernest Dickerson, Director and cinematographer, shares his journey into the film industry, his collaboration with Spike Lee, and his transition into directing. They discuss the importance of lighting, influences from classical films, and the process of writing and shooting the film Juice. They also highlight the significance of doing your homework as a director and the joy of studying film history.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 57 - FRANKLIN LEONARD - FOUNDER OF THE BLACK LIST Franklin Leonard, the founder of The Black List, joins us on this episode of the Team Deakins Podcast for a fascinating conversation. Franklin, a Harvard-educated military brat, starts by recounting his many travels across continents and industries before finding his footing as an assistant in the motion picture literary department at CAA. Having transitioned into development, Franklin shares how The Black List was born out of an innate desire to do better in his job as a junior executive at the time. We learn how The Black List has since evolved and how Franklin’s experiences influenced those evolutions to address industry access issues. We later consider what makes a good script, the inherent subjectivity of evaluating art, and how a script appearing on the list can vindicate one’s interest in “weird” material. Franklin stresses how the ultimate goal should not be to get on The Black List but to get your movie made, and he exposes the psyops he executes to avoid leaking which scripts end up on the list.   The Black List is an annual list of the most-liked scripts circulating within Hollywood in a given year, and it has served as a valuable industry tool for filmmakers since its inception.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 56 - RYAN WHITE - DIRECTOR Director Ryan White (GOOD NIGHT OPPY, THE KEEPERS, ASSASSINS) joins us on this episode of the Team Deakins Podcast to discuss his career and the field of documentary filmmaking. Born and raised in Dunwoody, Georgia, Ryan later enrolled in Duke University where he found his calling to direct documentaries after watching Agnès Varda’s THE GLEANERS AND I. After welcoming him on the podcast, Ryan starts off strong by revealing how he’s used previous episodes to study a particular department to help secure a job. He reflects on the state of the industry in which he came up that forced him to begin directing in his mid-20s and laments how today’s industry can delay a young filmmaker from taking their first steps towards starting a career by employing them to assist those already established. We later learn how Ryan prefers to shoot his documentaries as intimately as possible over several years and how he and his producing partner Jessica Hargrave have typically sold their projects to distributors. Throughout our discussion, we reaffirm the value of learning by doing, of believing in your stories and talents when leaving the nest, and of listening to your mother. - Recommended Viewing: THE KEEPERS, GOOD NIGHT OPPY - This episode is sponsored by Dallas Film Commission 

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 55 - JOHN SAYLES - ACTOR / WRITER / DIRECTOR / NOVELIST Actor, writer, director, and novelist John Sayles (MATEWAN, BROTHER FROM ANOTHER PLANET, LONE STAR) joins Team Deakins on this episode of the podcast for a discussion covering his long career in filmmaking and in fiction writing. A true multi-hyphenate, John first describes his postgraduate journey from working in an Italian sausage factory to enlisting in the Roger Corman film factory. John reflects on his luck having his first three screenplays produced under the legendary filmmaker and on the lessons he learned shooting his self-funded first feature. Working chiefly in independent American cinema, John considers the times and the market in which he came up that facilitated his filmmaking and offers advice for young filmmakers today. Among the many other topics of discussion, we consider the following: how John decides which medium best serves a story, the benefits of cutting in your head during production, and how comfortable an actor may or may not feel working out of an Econo Lodge in West Virginia.  - This episode is sponsored by Dallas Film Commission 

Bill Hader, the talented actor and showrunner known for 'Barry' and 'SNL,' shares his unique journey from Tulsa to Hollywood, including a humorous tale of being rejected from film school. He recounts chaotic and funny moments as a PA on low-budget films and discusses the challenges and joys of co-showrunning 'Barry' with Alec Berg. Hader highlights the art of casting, directing, and balancing the emotional depth of storytelling while addressing the evolving landscape of cinema and the importance of classic films.

Acclaimed costume designer Jenny Beavan shares her experiences working with the Merchant Ivory troupe, reusing clothing for characters, and the stories that costumes tell. She reflects on adapting after being deceived on a project and offers advice to aspiring costume designers.

In this episode, Ava DuVernay, writer and director of WHEN THEY SEE US, 13TH, SELMA, discusses her transition from running a publicity agency to filmmaking, her experience directing SELMA on a modest budget, and the power of dailies in her latest project. She also reflects on the impact of classic films on her childhood and shares her insights on the film industry's potential for positive change.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 51 - GREIG FRASER - CINEMATOGRAPHER - THE BATMAN - PART 2 On this episode of the Team Deakins Podcast, we’re sharing the rest of our previously live-streamed conversation between Team Deakins and cinematographer Greig Fraser diving into his work on THE BATMAN. We start by talking all things lighting, and Greig shares how he and his team used non-film light fixtures to achieve a natural look in the film. We later discuss the importance of on-set chemistry and how a great attitude can outweigh experience when crewing. Greig shares how his team worked to match the menace of the Batmobile with the truck in Steven Spielberg’s DUEL and how closely he worked with the art department during production. Greig also reveals which light best complimented Zoë Kravitz’s makeup, and he pulls into focus the potential applications of an adjustable depth of field in the Volume lighting system.   A link to the images mentioned in the episode can be found here. - This episode is sponsored by Dallas Film Commission & Falca

Cinematographer Greig Fraser discusses his work on THE BATMAN, including the challenges faced during production due to COVID-19. He talks about the creative process behind developing the film's visual aesthetic, the use of unique lenses, and the impact of location choices. They also explore the intersection of live-action and animation, the pros and cons of using live techniques versus computer-generated effects in shooting Batman, and different approaches to cinematography.

SEASON 2 - EPISODE 49 - RUTH DE JONG - PRODUCTION DESIGNER Team Deakins is joined by talented production designer Ruth De Jong (OPPENHEIMER, NOPE, MANCHESTER BY THE SEA). A creative scion of the accomplished production designer Jack Fisk, Ruth explains how Jack recruited her to assist him on THERE WILL BE BLOOD and the subsequent ten year partnership in which he was her mentor. She later reflects on how she’s grown after each project as well as how to stay malleable after the train that is production leaves the station. Ruth also describes the invigorating responsibility she felt to deliver on OPPENHEIMER after director Christopher Nolan cut days from the schedule to balance the film's budget and the timely encouragement he gave her deep in production. She also shares her experiences working on TWIN PEAKS: THE RETURN and how she worked off illustrations and paintings created by David Lynch to build and design the series’ many scenes. - Recommended Viewing: OPPENHEIMER - This episode is sponsored by TrueCut Motion & Dallas Film Commission & Falca