The Hearing – A Legal Podcast
Thomson Reuters
The Hearing is a legal podcast from Thomson Reuters. Listen to insightful discussions with lawyers, legal experts, and other interesting people connected to the legal industry. We delve into anything and everything – trailblazers in the law, the latest insights on legal innovation and trends, and how the profession is evolving. With hosts based in the UK and the US, we cover issues around the globe. Our hosts: Becky Annison – Trained at a London law firm before moving in-house. Spent 12 years as a senior solicitor in a large international company, before joining Practical Law's In-house practice area team. Now, as Head of Engagement for The Chancery Lane Project, Becky uses her knowledge of contracting and law to help tackle the climate crisis. Janelle Wrigley – An attorney based in California. As head of the Antitrust & Competition team at Practical Law, leads a team of lawyers producing practical guidance for competition lawyers worldwide. Previously, Janelle was a litigator at the US Federal Trade Commission and at Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP in New York. Jennifer Thibodaux – An attorney, speaker, and writer based in New Jersey. A member of the Litigation team at Practical Law, where she creates procedural and substantive content, plus professional development resources. Previously, Jennifer was a partner at Gibbons P.C. in Newark, New Jersey, focusing on commercial litigation. Lauren Sobel – An attorney, editor, and frequent presenter on trending legal topics based in New York City. At Practical Law, she uses her experience as a litigator and federal law clerk in multiple jurisdictions to help other attorneys in their practice. Before joining Thomson Reuters, Lauren was a partner at Shutts & Bowen LLP in Miami, Florida, specialising in business litigation. Teneé Frazier – An attorney, editor, and speaker based in Alabama. As a member of the State and Local Government team at Practical Law, she uses her expertise in municipal law to produce substantive content for local government attorneys. Previously, Teneé was Assistant General Counsel at the Alabama League of Municipalities. Yasmin Sheikh – Executive coach, trainer, consultant, and speaker, with a background as a lawyer – practising for 12 years in a large international law firm. Founder of Diverse Matters – which helps promote equality, diversity, and inclusivity within organisations. Yasmin is also a former vice chair of the Disabled Solicitors Network at the Law Society of England and Wales. Find out more about The Hearing and other Thomson Reuters podcasts at tr.com/thehearing.
Episodes
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Apr 10, 2023 • 11min
EP. 119 – Tracey Dovaston (Head of DEI & Partner)
MY LEGAL JOB & ME – In the hotseat for this episode is Tracey Dovaston, a Partner and the Head of Diversity, Equity & Inclusion at Pallas Partners. Tracey has an impressive background, switching between private practice and in-house roles. These have included Head of Litigation Investigations & Regulatory Enforcement at Barclays, Chief Compliance Officer, and Executive Litigation Counsel. Listen to Tracey as she talks about her passions, the motivation behind her career decisions, and as she shares her tips for success.
Find out more at tr.com/TheHearing
Mar 27, 2023 • 35min
EP. 118 – Rossana Arteaga-Gomez (American Civil Liberties Union)
On this week's episode, our host Lauren Sobel sits down with Rossana Arteaga-Gomez – a partner at AXS Law Group in Miami, Florida, and President of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Florida. Rossana and Lauren chat about Rossana's unique legal career in both civil litigation and criminal defense work, as well as how Rossana cracked the code on marrying her passions with her career. They dive into some formative experiences that Rossana had – including being a witness in her own cases, and having clients tell her that they preferred to hire a white man as their attorney. The pair also discuss Rossana's passion for civil rights and her mission to improve the criminal justice system through her work with the ACLU. We'd love to hear from you! So drop us a line at thehearing@tr.com to say hello, or to share your ideas for future guests and topics.
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Mar 13, 2023 • 56min
EP. 117 – Mark Henderson (Doughty Street Chambers)
We know we have some long-time listeners to The Hearing (thank you!) and we get super excited when we meet them. But for those of you who haven't listened since way back in 2018, an episode we often find ourselves recommending is ep. 6 (https://pod.fo/e/149f97). It's a jaw-dropping interview and it's how we first met Yasmin. Fast-forward five years – with Yasmin now one of our regular hosts – in this episode she covers similar ground with her guest, Mark Henderson – a barrister at Doughty Street Chambers in London. Mark and Yasmin talk about being thrown into the deep end of disability overnight, with the ongoing challenges around accessibility, visibility and opportunity that this brings. Mark's story is both moving and inspirational. As you'll hear, there was so much to discuss that we can't wait to have him back.
Find out more at tr.com/TheHearing
Feb 27, 2023 • 48min
EP. 116 – Alexandra Carter (Columbia Law School)
What does the word negotiation really mean? What's the best question to ask during a negotiation? And what does negotiating have to do with kayaking?! In this episode, Jennifer chats with Alex Carter, world-renowned keynote speaker, professional coach, and Director of the Mediation Clinic at Columbia Law School, to answer these questions and more. Alex reveals the traits of a skilled negotiator that anyone can learn to help resolve conflict. She also explains why claiming your worth matters, including on a larger scale. Alex describes how she followed the "deep knowing in her gut" to leave her position as a litigator at a mega law firm, to return to her law school to teach. She believes passionately that each of us should pay similar attention to what brings us joy – and shares a great trick for figuring it out. As an avid reader, Jennifer also asks Alex about her best-selling book, "Ask For More: 10 Questions to Negotiate Anything". And, after listening to this episode, you will be inspired and ready to do just that!
Find out more at tr.com/TheHearing
Feb 13, 2023 • 25min
EP. 115 – Equal Representation for Expert Witnesses
Expert witnesses can make or break a case: judges and juries look to their authority to explain all manner of technical subjects. But it turns out that hidden biases may be at work in who gets selected to testify as an expert. In this episode, Becky digs into why this disparity exists and how it might be solved with her guests Isabel Kunsman and Kathryn Britten. Isabel and Kathryn are partners at consulting firm AlixPartners and co-founders of Equal Representation for Expert Witnesses (ERE), an organisation working to bring gender equality to this important function of the law.
To find out more about the ERE pledge, go to: https://www.expertwitnesspledge.com/
Jan 30, 2023 • 38min
EP. 114 – Katharine Larsen (Thomson Reuters)
In this episode, Lauren chats with Katharine Larsen, Deputy General Counsel, Litigation, for Thomson Reuters. Katharine was raised in a small town in the midwestern US, but always knew she wanted to explore the world. At a young age, Katharine began living and working abroad, and continued to do so at various points in her legal career. Now back in the US and working in New York City, Katharine has a unique global perspective that sets her apart from many American lawyers. Through her journey around the globe, Katharine also found her passion in media law. Katharine and Lauren chat about this passion and other topics, including how Katharine's global experience helped her work to free Reuters journalists Wa Lone and Kyaw Soe Oo from prison in Myanmar, some big-picture differences between the US legal system and those of other countries, and the greatest challenge facing the media right now. They also chat about the importance of approaching situations without making assumptions, and why it often pays to ask open-ended questions. (Interview recorded 16th December 2022)
We'd love to hear from you, so drop us a line at thehearing@tr.com to say hello, or to share your ideas for guests and future topics! Find out more at tr.com/TheHearing
Jan 16, 2023 • 50min
EP. 113 – Peter Daly (Doyle Clayton)
In this episode, Yasmin sits down with Peter Daly, an employment law partner at Doyle Clayton, to discuss his career and the high-profile philosophical belief cases he's been focused on recently. They discuss the significance for employers of the judgment Forstater, as well as the wider societal impact of such cases. For more episodes that touch upon related themes, we invite you to listen to those featuring the guests below: EP. 04 – Robin White (https://pod.fo/e/149f99)EP. 79 – Freddy McConnell (https://pod.fo/e/d596e)EP. 110 – Ellie Krug (https://pod.fo/e/154d45)
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Jan 2, 2023 • 26min
EP. 112 – Charles Bagot KC (Head of Chambers & Judge)
MY LEGAL JOB & ME – In the hotseat for this episode is Charles Bagot KC from Gatehouse Chambers in London. Charles has many strings to his bow – he's a barrister, part-time judge, and joint head of chambers. He's also well known in the profession for his legendary courtesy. Listen to Charles as he talks about overcoming imposter syndrome, bouncing back from set-backs, and why it pays to be nice to everyone. No matter what stage you're at in your career, we're sure you'll appreciate his sage advice.
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Dec 19, 2022 • 8min
EP. 111 – Jack Courtney (Trainee Solicitor)
MY LEGAL JOB & ME – This episode will be of particular interest to any aspiring solicitors. Jack Courtney is in the first seat of his training contract – at Biscoes Solicitors in Portsmouth, UK. Jack, who is in the firm's corporate team, describes his experiences and offers advice for other students who are at the beginning of their careers. If there is a specific legal job type that you would like to know more about, please email your suggestion to thehearing@tr.com.
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Dec 5, 2022 • 51min
EP. 110 – Ellie Krug (Human Inspiration Works)
THEN: "Killer Krug" was an attack dog courtroom lawyer who presented as an aggressive male, complete with an intimidating voice that cracked witnesses on the stand. But inside, "Killer Krug" secretly grappled with suppressed gender identity issues dating back to childhood. NOW: Ellie Krug is a transgender woman who uses who uses her voice – in more ways than one – to teach compassion and empathy. Join our new host, Jennifer Thibodaux, as she chats with Ellie about the idealism that led her to law school, her crushing schedule as a junior associate and then law firm owner balancing a family. Ellie describes what happens when she realized she could no longer out-work or "out-therapy" her "gut tugs" about being a woman, and made the brave decision to lead an authentic life. Ellie and Jennifer also talk about Ellie's mission with her company, Human Inspiration Works, and her signature training, Gray Area Thinking, including the surprising results that occur at the end of every training. Meet Ellie Krug: writer, lawyer, and human. We know that her story will leave you inspired and transformed.
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