When lawyers represent celebrities, they don't typically become celebs themselves. But that’s what happened to Camille Vasquez, who represented Johnny Depp in his defamation trial against Amber Heard. In this episode, Lauren sits down with Camille, who rose to fame in no small part because of the way she commanded the courtroom in Depp v. Heard, all while the world watched.

As you'd expect, the Depp trial, and the many serious issues it raised, are discussed – including gender roles, cancel culture, the court of public opinion, and the importance of teamwork. Camille and Lauren also chat about Camille's life after the Depp trial – including making partner at Brown Rudnick, representing other high-profile clients, and working as a legal correspondent for NBC.

Camille’s passion for her work, including being in the courtroom, really shines in this episode – leaving no doubt that she’s a star in her own right.

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