
Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change
Once a week, Michael Liebreich and Bryony Worthington have a conversation with a leader in clean energy, mobility, climate finance or sustainable development. Informative, inspiring and fun!
Latest episodes

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Nov 6, 2024 • 1h 15min
The Biggest, Dirtiest Secret of the Energy Industry — Ep184: Jonathan Maxwell
Join Jonathan Maxwell, CEO of Sustainable Development Capital LLP and author of "The Edge," as he tackles the critical issues of energy efficiency and waste. He reveals how optimizing energy systems can save billions and power the growth of AI sustainably. The conversation highlights innovative on-site energy solutions that challenge traditional views on energy use. Maxwell also analyzes the impact of US and EU energy policies and stresses the importance of reform in energy practices to keep pace with global competition. Dive into this enlightening discussion!

Oct 30, 2024 • 51min
Who Will Be the Tesla of the Waves? Ep183: Ben Sorkin
Ben Sorkin, CEO and co-founder of Flux Marine, is revolutionizing the boating industry with customizable electric propulsion systems. He discusses the environmental challenges of fossil-fuel engines and how electric alternatives can reduce pollution and noise. Sorkin shares insights on the financial benefits of electric boats, addressing concerns like range anxiety and total ownership costs. The conversation also covers the innovative advancements in battery technology and manufacturing strategies, aiming to transform marine transport into a sustainable future.

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Oct 23, 2024 • 1h 4min
Is There Really an EV Slowdown? Ep182: Colin McKerracher
Colin McKerracher, Head of Clean Transport at BloombergNEF, dives into the complexities of the electric vehicle market, addressing perceptions of a slowdown in sales despite robust unit numbers. He discusses regional differences, the challenges posed by tariffs on battery manufacturing, and the rise of affordable EVs in Europe. The conversation explores future projections, with a potential 45% of global vehicle sales being electric by 2030, and touches on the electrification of heavy-duty transport, including innovative charging solutions.

Oct 16, 2024 • 57min
Could Trump 2.0 Roll Back The IRA? Ep181: Ethan Zindler
Ethan Zindler, Climate Counselor to US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, dives into the intricacies of the Inflation Reduction Act. He shares insights on its potential to reshape the US energy landscape and counter China's green energy dominance. The discussion highlights challenges in effectively communicating tax incentives, as well as the need for collaborative international efforts. Zindler also addresses the balance between fossil fuel interests and clean energy priorities, emphasizing the urgent need for sustainable solutions amid escalating climate risks.

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Oct 9, 2024 • 1h 16min
What Have the Oceans Ever Done For Us? Ep180: Helen Czerski
Helen Czerski, a physicist and oceanographer at University College London, dives deep into the ocean's role in climate regulation. She discusses how oceans absorb a third of our CO2 and 90% of excess heat. The conversation explores ocean physics, marine ecosystems, and the importance of understanding oceanic health in addressing climate change. Czerski highlights the risks posed by rising temperatures and human activities, urging a re-evaluation of our connection with oceans not merely as resources but as vital life support systems.

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Oct 2, 2024 • 53min
Geothermal is Having a Moment, Can it Deliver? Ep179: Cindy Taff
Cindy Taff, a seasoned executive with 35 years in the oil industry, now leads Sage Geosystems, pioneering geothermal energy. She discusses the potential of geothermal resources beneath our feet and how fossil fuel techniques can aid clean energy. Cindy dives into challenges like deep drilling and regulatory hurdles while sharing insights on using geothermal wells for energy storage. Her journey from Shell’s VP of Unconventional Drilling to geothermal advocate highlights an innovative shift crucial for a sustainable future.

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Sep 25, 2024 • 1h 7min
Slowdown, what Slowdown? The EV Revolution is Just Getting Started | Ep178: Dr Andy Palmer
Dr. Andy Palmer, a veteran in the electric vehicle industry with over 45 years of experience, shares his journey from traditional automotive roles to pioneering EVs. He recounts the challenges behind developing the Nissan Leaf, the first mass-market electric vehicle. The discussion also explores the rapid advancements in battery technology, the urgent need for automakers to adapt, and the future of fully autonomous vehicles. Andy emphasizes the importance of hands-on technical skills in driving this transformation and reflects on the evolving energy landscape in Japan.

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Sep 18, 2024 • 1h 2min
Is it Time for Climate Interventions? | Ep177: Kelly Wanser
In this enlightening discussion, Kelly Wanser, Executive Director of SilverLining, and climate policy advocate Bryony Worthington tackle the hot-button issue of geoengineering. They explore innovative techniques like cloud brightening and stratospheric aerosol injection, weighing their potential benefits against serious risks. The duo delves into the need for robust evidence and governance in implementing these solutions. Highlighting the urgency of climate action, they call for global cooperation and ethical responsibilities, especially among wealthy individuals.

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Sep 11, 2024 • 1h 24min
The Great Hydrogen Reset — Is It Germany's Turn? Ep176: Eva Schmid
In this insightful discussion, expert Eva Schmid, Director of Hydrogen and Synthetic Energy Carriers at DENA, dives deep into Germany's ambitious green hydrogen initiatives. She analyzes how Germany is strategically replacing coal and nuclear power, despite geopolitical energy challenges. Schmid discusses the evolving hydrogen production targets, the importance of international partnerships, and the economic implications of hydrogen as a climate solution. She also addresses the cost complexities and the essential role hydrogen plays in ensuring energy resilience.

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Sep 4, 2024 • 1h 9min
The Kraken Wakes: Creating the Utility of the Future | Ep175: Greg Jackson
In this engaging conversation, Greg Jackson, Founder and CEO of Octopus Energy, shares how his startup became the largest electricity provider in the UK in under a decade. He discusses the innovative Kraken platform and its role in driving customer-centric solutions, especially during the recent energy crisis. The potential of locational pricing and its impact on renewable energy adoption is explored, alongside ambitious plans for electric vehicle integration and home heating electrification. Jackson’s vision for achieving a zero-carbon system by 2030 is both inspiring and thought-provoking.