
DesignOps Island Discs
The podcast from zeroheight, where we talk to the best folks in DesignOps from around the world to help you build the best darn DesignOps practice you possibly can. Hosted by Luke Murphy, design advocate at zeroheight, each episode focuses on a specific part of the DesignOps pie, gaining insight from both established DesignOps practitioners, as well as up and coming DesignOps voices.
Latest episodes

Nov 1, 2021 • 20min
Jerome de Lafargue - The Importance of Design at an Early Stage
Jerome de Lafarge, co-founder and CEO at zeroheight talks to us about how to survive in the startup world, where zeroheight came from and where DesignOps is likely headed. zeroheight.comJerome on TwitterThe National The Three-Body Problem, Cixin LiuDesignOps Island Discs is brought to you by zeroheight, the design system documentation platform. You can jump in at any point and create your first styleguide for free. Until next time, bon voyage...

Oct 25, 2021 • 22min
Laura Kennedy - The deprioritisation of design systems
Laura Kennedy, lead designer on design systems at GoodRx, talks to us about the deprioritisation of a design system, what signs to look for, what to do if it does happen and what lessons were learned for future opportunities. laura-kennedy.netLaura on TwitterBear Grylls Survival PodcastThe Art Institute of Chicago DesignOps Island Discs is brought to you by zeroheight, the design system documentation platform. You can jump in at any point and create your first styleguide for free. Until next time, bon voyage...

Oct 18, 2021 • 23min
Rogie King - The Power of Community
Rogie King, designer advocate at Figma, plugin author and prolific tweeter, talks to us about the power of community and the influence on the design process improvements. rog.ieRogie's Figma Profile Rogie on twitterFigma Plugins: Table Creator, Breakpoints, SkewDat, Image Tracer.FigJamBlack Tiger Sex Machine, Futuristic ThrillerSalem's Lot, Stephen KingDesignOps Island Discs is brought to you by zeroheight, the design system documentation platform. You can jump in at any point and create your first styleguide for free. Until next time, bon voyage...

Oct 11, 2021 • 30min
Chase McCoy - The Future of Design System Documentation
Chase McCoy, the driving force behind Seeds at Sprout Social, now a product designer at Stripe, talks to us about documentation as knowledge graphs and the future of design systems.chasem.coChase on TwitterDesign systems as knowledge graphsSeeds - Sprout Social Frank Ocean, BlondeBroad Band, Claire L. EvansDesignOps Island Discs is brought to you by zeroheight, the design system documentation platform. You can jump in at any point and create your first styleguide for free. Until next time, bon voyage...

Sep 27, 2021 • 2min
Trailer: DesignOps Island Discs Season Two
We're back with season two, and this season we're talking to even more DesignOps and design systems folks about the nitty gritty of what good DesignOps is. From the future of design system documentation to design tokens to design pairing, season two is going to tool you up and get you shipshape. Season Two Episode One will be released at 05:00 GMT on Monday October 11, 2021, with subsequent episodes being released weekly on Mondays, right through to the end of the year.DesignOps Island Discs is brought to you by zeroheight, the design system documentation company, that allows you to create a central hub for your design system for everyone in your org. You can try zeroheight for free today.You can also follow me, Luke, on Twitter at @lurkmoophy. Until October 11! Bon voyage!

Jun 14, 2021 • 31min
Henrique Gusso - Building a Design Systems Team
Henrique Gusso, principal designer on Design Systems at Wise, talks to us about what goes into building an effective Design Systems team, from team make-up to product management to contribution models.Gusso on TwitterEngineering Lead job at WiseHercules - Various Artists@horse_ebooks on TwitterDesignOps Island Discs is brought to you by zeroheight, the design system documentation platform. You can jump in at any point and create your first styleguide for free. Until next time, bon voyage...

Jun 7, 2021 • 43min
Amy Hupe - Building a contribution model for your Design System
Amy Hupe, content designer and design systems expert, who has been the driving force behind Design Systems at BT, Babylon Health and gov.uk, talks to us about what goes into building a successful contribution model for your design system.Amyhupe.co.ukAmy on TwitterGov.uk design systemContent by Design conferenceSarah Nuefeld - Where the Light Comes InDesignOps Island Discs is brought to you by zeroheight, the design system documentation platform. You can jump in at any point and create your first styleguide for free. Until next time, bon voyage...

May 31, 2021 • 39min
Peter Merholz - Designing Your Org
Peter Merholz, co-author of Org Design for Design Orgs, consultant, conference speaker, podcaster and all-round great human being, talks to us about how his and Kristin's book was born, what's changed in the last five years, some red flags that your org isn't working and how the concept of org design fits within DesignOps. petermerholz.comOrg Design for Design OrgsPeter on TwitterDesign at Scale conferenceTalking Heads - Remain in LightMoby Dick by Herman MelvilleDesignOps Island Discs is brought to you by zeroheight, the design system documentation platform. You can jump in at any point and create your first styleguide for free. Until next time, bon voyage...

May 24, 2021 • 38min
Meredith Black - Hiring good DesignOps folks
Meredith Black, a DesignOps consultant and co-founder of DesignOps Assembly, shares her remarkable journey from criminology to leading teams at Pinterest, Facebook, and IDEO. She discusses the evolution of DesignOps and its crucial role in improving team efficiency. Meredith highlights effective practices for communication within growing design teams and emphasizes the importance of diverse backgrounds in the hiring process. The conversation takes a light-hearted turn as they choose whimsical items for a desert island, sparking laughter and creative choices.

May 17, 2021 • 32min
Harjot Bal - Running a DesignOps Audit
Harjot Bal, Senior Manager of DesignOps and Design Systems at Appnovation in Toronto, shares his journey from UX design to enhancing design operations. He discusses his unique approach to conducting DesignOps audits, emphasizing stakeholder engagement and empathy. Harjot highlights the crucial role of effective design tools in fostering creativity and problem-solving. With a twist of imagination, he also reflects on life stranded on a desert island, picking nostalgic hip hop alongside a thought-provoking reading choice.