
The Goats of Growth
'The Goats Of Growth' features exclusive interviews with GTM Leaders who discuss topics such vision, leadership, strategy, execution, and other insights into how start-up can build a successful go-to-market function.
Latest episodes

Apr 8, 2025 • 1h 6min
How To Make Corporate Learning Fun and a Genuis Growth Hack You Should Try Immediatel, with Christian Byza
On today’s episode of The Goats of Growth, I'm joined by Christian Byza, CEO and Co-Founder of Learn.xyz, as he shares his journey from organizing conferences in high school to building an AI-powered B2B learning platform. Christian dives deep into the back story of Learn.xyx , pivoting from consumer to enterprise, and building effective go-to-market strategies. He also shares insights into personal branding, a growth hack you must hear, and how a positive mindset fuels his hustle. Tune in to hear insights on: 🔹 The Entrepreneurial Journey – From product management to launching Learn.xyz 🔹 Pivoting to B2B – How user feedback drove a major shift in the business model 🔹 Creative Marketing – Why unconventional tactics like renting an art gallery can make a bigger impact 🔹 Go-To-Market Growth – The importance of building a strong, scalable team 🔹 Personal Branding – How podcasts and visibility build trust and credibility This episode is packed with practical lessons for founders, marketers, and anyone navigating the startup grind. Let us know your favorite takeaway from Christian’s story! Christians Linkedin Profile Chapters 02:01 The Evolution of a Conference and Balancing Startups 05:57 From Product Management to Entrepreneurship 12:01 The Journey of Starting a Company 17:52 The Pivot to B2B Learning Solutions 23:53 Acquiring Users and Scaling the Product 39:08 Networking Strategies for Success 42:52 The Art of Fundraising and Building Relationships 48:45 Scaling and Growth Strategies 50:13 Pricing Models and Value Proposition 51:55 Building a Go-To-Market Team

Feb 18, 2025 • 47min
Hiring, Developing, and Leading People, with Rob Merklinger
On today's episode of The Goats of Growth, we’re joined by Rob Merklinger, SVP of Global Sales at JRNI to discuss the key traits that drive sales success—curiosity, teamwork, and effective coaching. Rob shares lessons from his leadership journey, the challenges of first-time management, and the impact of domain expertise in sales. He also dives into the importance of sales enablement, training for new hires, and simplifying sales processes for better results. Tune in to hear Rob’s insights on: 🔹 Curiosity in Sales – Why staying curious leads to stronger sales performance. 🔹 Sales as a Team Sport – The power of collaboration in closing deals. 🔹 Effective Coaching & Documentation – How accountability and tracking progress elevate sales reps. 🔹 Sales Enablement & Onboarding – Why training and support are crucial for new hires. 🔹 Mastering the Pipeline – The importance of simplicity and strategic forecasting. 🔹 Adapting Sales Communication – The resurgence of phone calls and evolving outreach methods. This episode is packed with actionable insights for sales professionals and leaders looking to refine their approach. Tune in and let us know your biggest takeaway! Robs Linkedin Profile

Jan 13, 2025 • 45min
How To Go From Idea To Beta Users, with Steve Travaglini
On today's episode of The Goats of Growth, I sit down with Steve Travaglini again, founder and CEO of WinRate, a sales tool designed to enhance the research capabilities of sales reps. We dive into the evolution of WinRate, exploring how AI-driven research is transforming the way sales reps prepare for calls and approach their work. Steve shares his journey as a startup founder, from the challenges of early validation to the lessons learned through beta testing. He emphasizes the importance of human capital, customer feedback, and partnerships in building a tech company, offering valuable insights for entrepreneurs and sales reps alike. Tune in to discover Steve’s thoughts on: Automating Research in Sales: How WinRate helps sales reps save time while improving their preparation and performance. Navigating Startup Challenges: The highs and lows of entrepreneurship, from bootstrapping to building a supportive network. The Role of Feedback in Product Development: Why listening to customer needs and iterating based on user input is essential for success. Balancing Quantity and Quality in Sales: Striking the right balance for long-term growth. Steves Linkedin Profile Chapters 00:00 Introduction to WinRate and Its Value Proposition 06:13 Increasing Sales Capacity and Quality 12:12 Building a Tech Company Without Coding Skills 18:08 Navigating the Early Stages of Product Development 23:16 The Power of Human Capital in Startups 29:11 Identifying Market Needs Through Conversations 35:13 Understanding Beta Testing and Product Development 43:04 Looking Ahead: The Future of WinRate

Nov 11, 2024 • 1h 3min
From Start Up To Scale Up: The Core Marketing Fundamentals Needed In Both with Michaela Dempsey
On today's episode of The Goats of Growth, I have Michaela Dempsey, Chief Marketing Officer at Levelpath, an AI-powered procurement platform, to explore the concept of “delightful procurement” and how AI is transforming the procurement process. Michaela dives into how AI can streamline procurement and marketing, boosting efficiency and enhancing the user experience. She also shares her views on the essentials of marketing fundamentals, the impact of LinkedIn in B2B growth, and why balancing short-term wins with long-term strategy is key. Tune in to discover Michaela's insights on: Delightful Procurement: How AI can make procurement processes smoother and more enjoyable for users. Retargeting and Visibility: The power of retargeting ads in boosting brand awareness. Facing Challenges with Confidence: The importance of confidence and resilience in marketing leadership. Iteration in Marketing: Balancing data-driven insights with gut instincts for effective decision-making. Long-Term Vision and Sales Alignment: Why aligning marketing and sales with a clear vision drives growth. Join us for this episode packed with actionable advice on AI, marketing strategy, and leadership from a top industry CMO! Michaelas Linkedin Profile LevePath Website Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Levelpath and Michaela Dempsey. 06:10 The Role of AI in Procurement and Marketing. 11:51 Core Fundamentals of Marketing and Customer Care. 18:13 The Power of Retargeting and Long-Term Strategies. 35:26 Facing Challenges with Confidence. 42:57 The Importance of Iteration in Marketing. 48:21 Motivation and Goals in Marketing Leadership. 55:56 Personal Passions and Work-Life Balance.

Oct 28, 2024 • 58min
Scaling from $15M to 100M+, with Jamie Walker
On today's episode I sit down with Jamie Walker, CMO of KeyFactor, to explore the strategic marketing initiatives that fueled the company’s growth from $15 million to $100 million in ARR. Jamie shares her insights on the importance of predictable marketing strategies and how balancing short-term wins with long-term goals can drive success. She also dives into the significance of cross-functional collaboration and building a high-performing marketing team that adapts to the evolving needs of the business. Tune in to hear Jamie's perspective on: KeyFactor's Growth: How the company leveraged a strong product-market fit to scale rapidly. Marketing Predictability: The role of SEO and forecasting in generating a predictable pipeline. Cultural Integration in M&A: How to navigate and blend different company cultures during mergers and acquisitions. Data-Driven Decisions: How data guides product focus and growth strategy. Investing in People: Why employee satisfaction and strategic planning are key for future success. Join us for this episode filled with valuable lessons on scaling, leadership, and marketing strategy from one of the industry's top CMOs! Jamies Linkedin Profile Chapters 00:00 Introduction to KeyFactor and Jamie Walker 03:02 Strategic Priorities for Growth 05:47 The Importance of Predictability in Marketing 08:53 Long-Term vs Short-Term Wins 11:49 Cross-Functional Collaboration and Trust 15:09 Building a High-Performing Marketing Team 30:33 Radical Candor and Accountability in Growth 32:49 Blending Cultures: Education and Training 34:41 Reshaping Company Values and Messaging 38:35 The Long-Term Impact of Culture on Growth 42:44 Strategic Planning for Future Growth 46:20 Motivation and Goal Setting 48:43 Learning from Success and Failure 51:34 Balancing Work and Family Life 55:23 Trust as a Key Quality in Leadership

Sep 23, 2024 • 60min
How To Coach By Identifying Then Overcoming Limited Beliefs with Cris Mendes
On today's episode of The Goats of Growth, Cris Mendes, VP of Sales at WEVO, talks about his unique approach to coaching by first identifying the limiting beliefs that may be preventing people from achieving their goals. Once identified, he works with them to overcome those beliefs so they can reach their full potential. Cris' deep passion for coaching, influenced by his own experiences with impactful mentors, is palpable throughout this episode. With a focus on sales fundamentals and personal growth, Cris also dives into the core traits that define great salespeople, including the importance of curiosity and coachability. Here's what to listen for: Coaching in Sales: The significance of effective coaching in sales, focusing on both ability and proficiency to drive long-term success. Overcoming Limiting Beliefs: How understanding and overcoming personal limiting beliefs can unlock potential in sales and life. Curiosity and Sales Success: Why curiosity is one of the most essential traits for a successful salesperson. Discipline Over Talent: The role of discipline in achieving sales success, often outweighing natural talent. Chris's Linkedin Profile Timestamps 00:00 Introduction to Cris Mendes 02:06 The Passion for Coaching and Development. 05:17 Fundamentals of Sales Skills. 07:11 Overcoming Limiting Beliefs. 10:20 Practical Coaching Techniques. 14:44 Understanding Neuro-Linguistic Programming. 17:18 The Importance of Curiosity in Sales. 24:54 Ability vs. Proficiency in Sales. 32:47 The Role of Discipline in Sales Success. 36:34 Curiosity and Coachability in Hiring. 48:40 Rapid Fire Questions and Closing Thoughts.

Sep 2, 2024 • 57min
From Message Market Fit To Category Leader--What Will It Take? --Austin Myers
On today's episode of The Goats of Growth, I have Austin Myers, VP of Revenue at Certificial. Certificial is on a mission to automate and streamline the traditionally labor-intensive COI process, bridging the gap between the insurance and business industries. With a vision of a seamless future where COIs are obsolete and insurance information flows effortlessly across systems, Austin provides deep insights into how Certificial is leading this transformation. Tune in to discover Austin's insights on: Revolutionizing COI Processes: How Certificial is automating and streamlining the COI process to save time and reduce risk for compliance managers, insurance agents, and vendors. Connecting Industries: The importance of linking the insurance industry with the business world to ensure real-time compliance and eliminate insurance risks. Financial Stewardship in Startups: The critical importance of budgeting, profitability, and proper measurement in decision-making, especially in a startup environment. Hiring for Success: The traits Certificial looks for in their revenue organization, including curiosity, initiative, ownership, and judgment. AI and Automation: How Certificial uses AI and automation to scale processes and boost efficiency across the organization. This episode is packed with insights for anyone interested in the intersection of technology, insurance, and business growth! Tune in and let us know your key takeaway. Austins Linkedin Profile Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Certificial and the COI Process. 07:00 The Role of VP of Revenue at Certificial. 11:20 Message Market Fit and Evolution. 17:22 Becoming the Category Leader in the COI Space. 20:40 Execution and Growth Strategies. 25:14 Targeting Different Layers of Customers. 29:23 Leveraging Customer Advocacy for Growth. 29:51 The Importance of Budgeting and Being Good Stewards of Money. 31:44 Prioritizing Profitability and Proper Measurement. 34:57 The Role of Experimentation in Sustainable Growth. 36:53 The Hiring Profile for the Revenue Organization. 43:33 Using AI and Automation to Scale Processes.

Aug 26, 2024 • 59min
From Founder Led Sales To Scaling Exponentially, with Armen Zildjian
My guest today is Armen Zildjian, VP of Sales at Clockwork, which is a financial planning and analysis platform for growing businesses and their advisors. Armen has over 20 years of international software sales and sales leadership experience, and has helped take multiple scale multiple tech companies, including Drift, which achieved $1B valuation in 2021, LogMeIn (IPO), GrabCad (acquired by Stratasys), and Dyn (acquired by Oracle). He knows what it takes in the beginning, managing early-stage sales teams with little structure and process, all the way through international expansion with millions in revenue and a global sales team. In this episode he talks about his process for how he makes it all happen. Here are several key takeaways from the interview: Empowering Small Businesses: How Clockwork helps small businesses succeed by providing accurate and timely financial data through financial advisors. Understanding Customer Value: The significance of truly understanding the customer's problem and the value Clockwork can offer. Iterative Sales Processes: The need for constant adaptation in sales processes, with feedback loops and certification programs ensuring success. Hiring and Curiosity: Why hiring experienced salespeople and fostering natural curiosity are crucial for sales success. Motivation and the 'Why': The importance of having a clear goal and understanding the motivation behind actions in sales. Empathy in Management: Armen's management style focuses on empathy, understanding the whole person, and unlocking their potential. This episode is packed with actionable advice for sales leaders looking to scale their teams and empower small businesses! Tune in and let us know your key takeaway. Armens Linkedin Profile Timestamps 00:00 Introduction and Background. 02:20 Clockwork's Vision and Value Proposition. 08:49 Growth and Scale: IPO or Acquisition? 14:30 Building and Fine-Tuning the Sales Process. 19:27 Handling Challenges in a Fast-Growing Startup. 23:42 Staying Focused and Disciplined in Decision-Making. 28:13 The Role of Sales Reps and A/B Testing. 32:10 Core Principles and Skills for Sales Success. 34:07 Understanding the 'Why' Behind Your Actions. 37:10 The Impact of Developing Others. 40:31 The Drive to Win: Having a Chip on the Shoulder. 51:01 Finding Fulfillment in Hobbies and Interests.

Aug 19, 2024 • 11min
Recruiters, Resumes, and References with Jay Webb
Jay Webb, an expert in career positioning, shares invaluable insights for job seekers. He emphasizes the importance of building strong relationships with recruiters to unlock prime opportunities. Crafting a tailored resume that highlights relevant experiences is crucial for standing out. Jay also discusses reconnecting with past managers, as robust references can significantly enhance your chances in the hiring process. Finally, he stresses the need to prepare ahead of peak recruitment seasons, ensuring you're ready to seize the best job openings.

Aug 5, 2024 • 36min
How Operational Excellence Has Fueled AlphaSense's Exponential Growth, with Kiva Kolstein
Kiva Kolstein, President and Chief Revenue Officer of AlphaSense, dives into the secrets behind the company’s rapid growth and operational excellence. He reveals how AI powers their market intelligence platform and discusses the importance of a collaborative culture in building strong teams. Kiva shares insights on balancing aggressive growth with efficiency and the future of AlphaSense, including global expansion and the integration of generative AI. His passion for fostering talent and driving innovation shines through in this engaging conversation.