
The Biblical Mind
The Biblical Mind is dedicated to helping its audience understand how the biblical authors thought, promoting Bible fluency through curious, careful reading of Scripture. It is hosted by Dr. Dru Johnson and published by the Center for Hebraic Thought, a hub for research and resources on the intellectual world of the Bible.
Latest episodes

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Jan 23, 2025 • 55min
Joseph's Brothers Never Sold Him Into Slavery (Ari Lamm) Ep. #184
Rabbi Dr. Ari Lamm, an expert in Hebrew Bible interpretations, presents a fascinating take on the Joseph narrative, arguing that his brothers never actually sold him into slavery. He explores the minimalist storytelling and key Hebrew motifs in the text, linking them to themes of rejection and familial dynamics. The discussion highlights Joseph's emotional journey and the moral development of characters like Judah and Reuben. Lamm invites listeners to re-evaluate traditional interpretations and appreciate the richness of the biblical narrative.

Jan 16, 2025 • 54min
The State of Hebraic Thought in 2025 (Dru Johnson) Ep. #183
Mike Tolliver, a prominent co-host and thinker in Hebraic studies, joins Dr. Dru Johnson to discuss the evolution and future of Hebraic thought. They dive into recent scholarly advancements, unveiling notable works like Beryl Dove Lerner's exploration of divine interactions and Michael Rhodes' take on justice. The conversation highlights vital resources, including The Bible Project, and addresses the challenge of oversaturated content in the field. Looking forward, they advocate for collaborative scripture study and innovative online courses to enrich understanding and engagement.

Jan 9, 2025 • 40min
Hebraic Thought, "What Hath Darwin...", and What's Coming Next (Dru Johnson) Ep #182
Mike Tolliver interviews Dr. Dru Johnson, the president of the Center for Hebraic Thought. They dive into the richness of Hebraic thought, contrasting it with Western philosophies while emphasizing biblical concepts of justice and morality. The discussion covers how ancient insights can inform contemporary issues like incarceration and gender identity. Dr. Johnson also touches on the surprising connections between Hebraic thought and Darwinian theory, revealing shared themes that connect scripture with modern science. Upcoming projects hint at exciting developments in bridging these ideas.

Jan 2, 2025 • 42min
ICYMI: The Church's Alarming Neglect of the Old Testament (Brent Strawn) Ep. 181
In this insightful discussion, Dr. Brent Strawn, author of "The Old Testament is Dying," highlights the troubling neglect of the Old Testament in modern Christianity. He argues that this oversight leads to a diminishing scriptural literacy and a superficial faith. Dr. Strawn emphasizes the need for immersion in the Old Testament to truly understand concepts like justice and covenant. He proposes practical solutions for revitalizing its teachings in worship and everyday practice, ultimately calling for a deeper engagement with these foundational texts.

Dec 26, 2024 • 35min
ICYMI: The Biblical Authors vs. Greek Philosophy (Joseph Dodson) Ep. 180
This episode was originally published on April 2, 2021. We thought it was worth a reissue for our newer listeners.
In this episode, Dr. Dru Johnson sits down with Dr. Joseph Dodson to explore the intersection of Greco-Roman philosophy, Stoicism, and Hebraic thought in shaping the New Testament. Dr. Dodson explains how the Bible didn’t emerge in a vacuum but within a dynamic cultural context influenced by Judaism and Greco-Roman ideas.
The discussion highlights Stoicism, the dominant philosophy of the first century, which emphasized overcoming passions, achieving contentment, and the transformative power of reason. Dr. Dodson demonstrates how Stoic principles overlap with Christian teachings, as seen in Paul’s writings and the Gospel of John, which incorporates philosophical concepts like the Logos. He also examines how biblical authors adapted, affirmed, and challenged these ideas to articulate a distinctly Hebraic worldview.
Dr. Dodson emphasizes the importance of studying texts like the Apocrypha and Greco-Roman writings to fully grasp the intellectual milieu of early Christianity. He explains how Jewish and Hellenistic ideas coexisted in a “roundabout,” influencing each other in profound ways.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Hebraic and Greco-Roman Thought
04:09 The Influence of Stoicism on New Testament Texts
13:32 Philosophical Foundations: Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle
20:01 The Interplay of Hellenistic and Hebrew Intellectualism
29:00 Recommended Readings for Understanding Context

Dec 19, 2024 • 29min
Judaism is About Love (Shai Held) part 2 Ep. 179
Rabbi Dr. Shai Held, a respected Rabbi and author, shares profound insights from his book, exploring the intersection of love, law, and chosenness in Jewish theology. He emphasizes that God's love for Israel is unique yet inclusive, advocating for a balance between divine grace and humility. Delving into the ethics of love, he tackles the complexities of loving one’s neighbors and even enemies, enriched by personal stories that reveal love's demanding and transformative power. His reflections encourage deeper consideration of justice and compassion within faith.

Dec 12, 2024 • 42min
Judaism is About Love (Shai Held) part 1 Ep. 178
Rabbi Dr. Shai Held, president and dean of the Hadar Institute, explores the profound connection between love and law in Judaism. He argues that Jewish commandments are not mere rules but pathways to cultivate love for God and others. Through examples, he illustrates how practices like loving the stranger embody this belief. The discussion also highlights the importance of Jewish rituals and their role in fostering community through love. Held’s blend of traditional and modern interpretations offers an accessible glimpse into Jewish spirituality.

Dec 5, 2024 • 10min
What Do You Want? (Mike Tolliver) Ep 177
Welcome to the final installment of this podcast series on the past, present, and future of the Center for Hebraic Thought! In this episode, hosts Dru Johnson and Mike Tolliver turn their attention to you, the audience, asking for your thoughts, questions, and suggestions as the Center grows and evolves.
We explore exciting possibilities, including new video content for YouTube, packaged resources for community groups and classrooms, and fresh scholarship on topics like the philosophical elements of Moses and Plato, the significance of the Old Testament calendar, and even Hebraic perspectives on modern questions like tattoos.
Join us as we discuss our plans to equip learners, from churchgoers to Bible college students, with meaningful and accessible resources for a lifetime of engaging with Hebraic thought.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:01 More of What We Are Already Doing
04:16 Some New Things For The Center For Hebraic Thought Audience
04:53 More Resources For The Biblical Mind Audience
06:56 Questions We've Never Answered On The Show
08:27 How To Get Us These Questions

Nov 27, 2024 • 10min
Where Are We Going? (Mike Tolliver) Ep. 176
In this episode, Dr. Dru Johnson introduces Mike Tolliver, the new Executive Director of the Center for Hebraic Thought (CHT). Together, they discuss exciting developments for the Center following its recent relaunch as an independent 501(c)(3). Mike shares his academic background in theology and philosophy, highlighting his passion for Hebraic thought and its integration into biblical scholarship.
The episode outlines the formalization of the CHT’s two primary initiatives: the Center for Hebraic Thought, aimed at scholars, and The Biblical Mind, tailored for the broader church and theological students. Plans include commissioning new scholarly work, providing free, high-quality resources for churches and classrooms, and launching tightly packaged multimodal courses.
A key highlight is the introduction of a PhD scholarship fund for students in the humanities focusing on Hebraic thought. The Center also plans to expand its offerings to scholars, such as broader platforms for publishing and improved compensation. Additional goals include an annual conference and a redesigned, user-friendly website.
The episode concludes with an announcement of the CHT’s first capital campaign, designed for micro-donors to participate. Mike emphasizes strategy and collaboration as central to the Center’s future success, ensuring its ability to serve both academic and non-academic audiences effectively.
Chapters
00:27 Introduction
01:21 Mike Tolliver's Background
02:50 Discussing the Changes That Are Coming for the Center
05:40 The Mission as an Independent Non-Profit
06:58 The Immediate Changes

Nov 21, 2024 • 8min
So, What Happened? (Dru Johnson) The Biblical Mind Ep. 175
Dr. Dru Johnson shares the inspiring story of the Center for Hebraic Thought, highlighting its mission to decode the biblical authors' unique insights. The sudden closure of King's College led to personal upheaval, but it also opened doors for exciting new initiatives. New Executive Director Mike Tolliver brings fresh perspectives for the center’s relaunch as an independent entity. With a promising future ahead, Johnson hints at innovative projects that aim to deepen our understanding of the connection between the Old and New Testaments.