

The Biblical Mind
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The Biblical Mind is dedicated to helping its audience understand how the biblical authors thought, promoting Bible fluency through curious, careful reading of Scripture. It is hosted by Dr. Dru Johnson and published by the Center for Hebraic Thought, a hub for research and resources on the intellectual world of the Bible.
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Apr 24, 2025 • 54min
Is Evolution a Dirty Word? Muslim Perspectives on Science and Religion (Shoaib Malik) Ep. #197
Is the relationship between Islam and science as well-developed as it is in Christianity? Not even close—but that’s changing. In this episode, Dr. Shoaib Ahmed Malik, Lecturer in Science and Religion at the University of Edinburgh, joins Dru Johnson to share the emerging field of Islam and science, focusing on the hot topic of evolution.
Shoaib unpacks the historical development of Islamic engagement with science, tracing it from early encounters with Western scientific frameworks to the present. He explains why the Islamic world lacks infrastructure like textbooks, academic chairs, and journals for the science-religion conversation—and why that’s finally beginning to change.
But what about evolution? Shoaib shares why it remains a highly sensitive subject in Muslim-majority countries (including stories of professors losing jobs over it) and how Muslim views differ from Christian ones, especially around original sin, Adam, and human suffering.
This is an honest, fascinating look at how Muslims are navigating modern science, why cultural and religious taboos persist, and how Shoaib’s work is shaping new conversations at the intersection of Islamic theology and science.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Shoaib Ahmed Malik's Journey
03:11 Transition from Engineering to Humanities
06:00 Teaching Experience in the UAE
09:14 Pursuing Philosophy, Science, and Religion
12:18 Publishing and Academic Recognition
15:11 Navigating Career Changes and New Opportunities
18:29 Exploring Science and Religion Conversations
26:43 Navigating Conversations with Students
27:29 Understanding Islam: Sunni vs Shia
30:19 The Contemporary Muslim World: Sunni and Shia Dynamics
31:34 The Intellectual History of Islam
35:17 Muslim Perspectives on Science and Religion
39:01 Islamization of Science: A Discourse Emerges
42:48 The Development of Islamic Science Education
44:25 Evolution and Its Reception in the Muslim World
48:11 Unique Questions Muslims Ask About Evolution

Apr 17, 2025 • 37min
Can Muslims, Jews, and Christians Talk About Science and Scripture? (Dru Johnson) Ep. #196
Gathering 15 scholars from Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, a groundbreaking workshop merged faith and science to discuss creation. They tackled how evolution, genetics, and astrophysics relate to theological concepts. A unique insight on Neanderthals and menopause sparked reflections on intergenerational care and biblical values. The discussions illuminated the potential for a biblical philosophy of science and examined whether Hebraic thought can influence modern scientific methods, fostering rich dialogues across diverse beliefs.

Apr 10, 2025 • 22min
Syndicated: Jesus and Jewish Law (Logan Williams and Paul Sloan) Ep. #195
Join Paul Sloan and Logan Williams, co-hosts of the Jesus and the Jewish Law podcast, as they unpack the complexities of the Mosaic Law and its implications in understanding Jesus. They tackle seven common misconceptions, clarifying that the Law was never just a burdensome set of rules, but a means to maintain God’s presence. Discover how impurity doesn't equal sin, the uniqueness of legal obligations, and how Jesus actually enriches the Torah's ethical teachings. It's a fresh and insightful guide to viewing Law through a Hebraic lens.

Apr 3, 2025 • 33min
ICYMI - Wisdom of Primal Peoples in the Era of World Christianity (Jangkholam Haokip) Ep. #194
Dr. Jangkholam Haokip, an Indian theologian and author, sheds light on the intersections of indigenous culture and Christianity. He reflects on his own journey from Kuki Primal Religion to Christianity, emphasizing community ties over individualism. Jangkholam discusses God's covenants in Genesis, linking them to ecological concerns today. He advocates for a shift in theological education, urging the inclusion of indigenous voices. Through his work, he aims to enrich Christian understanding by amplifying diverse cultural perspectives.

Mar 27, 2025 • 1h 4min
Is God Really Unchanging? Challenging Classical Theism’s View of God (R.T. Mullins) Ep. #193
Is God emotionless and unchanging? Many systematic theologians have long argued that God is completely impassible—meaning He cannot feel, suffer, or be influenced by creation. But is this truly what the Bible teaches?
In this episode, Dr. R.T. Mullins joins The Biblical Mind Podcast to challenge traditional ideas about God’s nature, emotions, and engagement with the world. He explains how philosophy has often shaped theology more than scripture, why systematic theologians ignore biblical descriptions of God’s emotions, and what it actually means to call God all-powerful and all-knowing.
Dru and R.T. explore the hidden assumptions behind classical theism, why ancient theologians rejected the idea that God could suffer, and whether modern theology needs a reset. Mullins also discusses how our view of God shapes how we pray, worship, and think about suffering.
If you’ve ever wondered why theology sometimes feels disconnected from the Bible, or why certain doctrines sound more like philosophy than scripture, this episode will challenge you to rethink how we describe God.
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Chapters:
00:00 Understanding the Doctrine of God
03:21 Concepts of God: Models and Attributes
06:23 The Role of Scripture in Systematic Theology
09:15 Historical Perspectives on God's Attributes
12:21 Philosophical Underpinnings of Theological Claims
15:12 The Challenge of Defining God's Perfections
18:04 Empathy and Knowledge in God's Nature
21:13 The Intersection of Philosophy and Scripture
24:11 Concluding Thoughts on God's Nature
30:53 The Nature of God's Communication
33:08 Empathy and the Divine: A Theological Dilemma
36:18 Impassibility and the Perfection of God
38:45 The Role of Empathy in Hebrew Moral Philosophy
41:44 The Disconnect Between Systematic Theology and Biblical Texts
45:28 Cultural Perspectives on Biblical Literature
47:16 Upcoming Projects: Debates and Collaborative Works

Mar 20, 2025 • 45min
Why We Struggle to Read the Bible—And How to Fix It (Alex Goodwin) Ep. #192
In this engaging discussion, Alex Goodwin, a former marketer turned Bible publisher and author of "The Bible Reset," shares how modern formatting disrupts our connection to Scripture. He explores the impact of chapter breaks and verse numbers on reading flow, arguing for a return to immersive biblical experiences. Alex contrasts Bible literacy with fluency, highlighting the necessity of community interaction for deeper understanding. His insights challenge listeners to rethink their approach to engaging with the Bible authentically.

Mar 13, 2025 • 51min
Faith, Politics, and Media: Rethinking Christian Political Involvement (Kaitlyn Schiess) Ep. #191
Kaitlyn Schiess, an expert on the intersection of faith and politics, joins the discussion to challenge how Christians engage with political issues. She argues that scrolling social media or binge-watching political news is not true engagement. Instead, she advocates for knowing your neighbors and participating in local politics. They explore the overload of information affecting critical thinking and the need for discerning trustworthy voices within Christian media. Kaitlyn emphasizes building relationships over social outrage as a means for genuine advocacy.

Mar 6, 2025 • 46min
From the Five Percent Nation to Biblical Scholar: CHT Fellow Hakeem Bradley Ep. #190
Hakeem Bradley, a CHT Fellow and biblical scholar with roots in the Five Percent Nation, shares his transformative journey from skepticism to faith in Jesus. He discusses how engaging with scripture involves embracing tension rather than seeking easy answers. Bradley emphasizes the importance of asking profound questions to deepen understanding and critiques the tendency to force New Testament connections on Old Testament texts. His unique perspective highlights the impact of personal relationships on faith and the broader implications of cultural identities within biblical scholarship.

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Feb 27, 2025 • 1h 8min
The Contemporary Worship Music Pipeline, or "Where Did The Psalms Go?" (Marc Jolicoeur) Ep. #189
Marc Jolicoeur, an expert in contemporary worship music, dives into the complex landscape of worship music today. He reveals how megachurches shape what songs make it to Sunday services and discusses the industry's reliance on professional songwriting teams. The conversation shifts to the absence of lament and imprecatory psalms in modern worship, questioning whether contemporary music prioritizes marketing over theology. Jolicoeur also raises the provocative idea of reintroducing the Psalms into worship, suggesting it could enrich the emotional depth of church services.

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Feb 20, 2025 • 18min
Listening to the Bible: Why Scripture Was Meant to Be Heard (Dru Johnson) Ep. #188
What if the Bible was meant to be heard instead of read? Dr. Dru Johnson reveals how listening transforms our understanding of Scripture, exposing literary structures that resonate better through sound. He argues for the communal experience of Scripture, which enriches retention and interpretation. Drawing from ancient traditions, the discussion highlights how reclaiming auditory engagement can reshape modern worship by placing Scripture at the heart of the experience.