
The Biblical Mind
The Biblical Mind is dedicated to helping its audience understand how the biblical authors thought, promoting Bible fluency through curious, careful reading of Scripture. It is hosted by Dr. Dru Johnson and published by the Center for Hebraic Thought, a hub for research and resources on the intellectual world of the Bible.
Latest episodes

Feb 13, 2025 • 1h 2min
The Rapture, the Mark of the Beast, & Christian Eschatology—Fact & Fiction (Matt Halsted) Ep. #187
Matt Halsted, author of 'The End of the World as We Know It' and a scholar of New Testament eschatology, challenges common misconceptions about end times beliefs. He discusses the rapture and the mark of the beast, arguing that American interpretations often reflect personal fears rather than biblical renewal. Halsted traces the history of eschatological speculation and emphasizes the importance of scriptural discipline. He highlights early Christian understandings of eschatology, asserting that the focus should be on creation's renewal rather than mere escape.

Feb 6, 2025 • 48min
How Scripture Reads Scripture: Understanding Biblical Intertextuality (Brent Strawn) Ep. #186
How does the Bible interpret itself? In this episode, Dr. Brent Strawn joins The Biblical Mind Podcast to explore intertextuality—the ways biblical authors intentionally or unconsciously connect their writings to earlier texts. Strawn breaks down different types of intertextuality, from direct citations (like Jesus quoting Psalm 22) to subtle patterns that only emerge when we read scripture holistically.
Together with Dru Johnson, Strawn unpacks how intertextuality deepens biblical meaning and why recognizing these connections can transform the way we understand scripture. They also discuss the surprising link between Solomon and the Mark of the Beast (666) and how Revelation critiques imperial power using the legacy of Israel’s wealthiest king.
Strawn argues that biblical authors weren’t just making random allusions—they were teaching us how to read scripture well. If we can recognize these hyperlinks, we can move beyond surface-level readings and grasp the depth of biblical theology.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:14 Understanding Intertextuality: Strong vs. Weak
02:07 The Unintentional Connections Between Texts
05:13 Patterns in Biblical Texts: A Deeper Look
08:08 Intertextuality and Its Interpretive Significance
11:10 Criteria for Evaluating Intertextual Connections
14:30 The Importance of Context in Scripture
17:19 The Dangers of Thin Intertextual Links
20:28 Exploring the Number 666 in Biblical Texts
26:13 Intertextuality and Biblical Texts
29:22 The Beast and Solomon: A Biblical Connection
33:13 Activating the Biblical Imagination
39:32 The Role of Scripture in Shaping Virtue
44:29 Hyperlinks in Revelation and Cultural References

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Jan 30, 2025 • 1h 5min
American Christian Nationalism and the Way of Jesus (Caleb E. Campbell) Ep. #185
Caleb E. Campbell, an author and pastor, dives deep into the heart of Christian nationalism, exploring its driving anxieties, like the fear of pluralism and the search for stability. He challenges the notion that supporters are driven by hatred, suggesting instead a longing for belonging. The conversation emphasizes the importance of hospitality, compassion, and curiosity in engaging differing views. Campbell also shares insights from his book 'Disarming Leviathan', advocating for scripture-centered dialogue as a means to connect and transform even amid political divides.

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Jan 23, 2025 • 55min
Joseph's Brothers Never Sold Him Into Slavery (Ari Lamm) Ep. #184
Rabbi Dr. Ari Lamm, an expert in Hebrew Bible interpretations, presents a fascinating take on the Joseph narrative, arguing that his brothers never actually sold him into slavery. He explores the minimalist storytelling and key Hebrew motifs in the text, linking them to themes of rejection and familial dynamics. The discussion highlights Joseph's emotional journey and the moral development of characters like Judah and Reuben. Lamm invites listeners to re-evaluate traditional interpretations and appreciate the richness of the biblical narrative.

Jan 16, 2025 • 54min
The State of Hebraic Thought in 2025 (Dru Johnson) Ep. #183
Mike Tolliver, a prominent co-host and thinker in Hebraic studies, joins Dr. Dru Johnson to discuss the evolution and future of Hebraic thought. They dive into recent scholarly advancements, unveiling notable works like Beryl Dove Lerner's exploration of divine interactions and Michael Rhodes' take on justice. The conversation highlights vital resources, including The Bible Project, and addresses the challenge of oversaturated content in the field. Looking forward, they advocate for collaborative scripture study and innovative online courses to enrich understanding and engagement.

Jan 9, 2025 • 40min
Hebraic Thought, "What Hath Darwin...", and What's Coming Next (Dru Johnson) Ep #182
Mike Tolliver interviews Dr. Dru Johnson, the president of the Center for Hebraic Thought. They dive into the richness of Hebraic thought, contrasting it with Western philosophies while emphasizing biblical concepts of justice and morality. The discussion covers how ancient insights can inform contemporary issues like incarceration and gender identity. Dr. Johnson also touches on the surprising connections between Hebraic thought and Darwinian theory, revealing shared themes that connect scripture with modern science. Upcoming projects hint at exciting developments in bridging these ideas.

Jan 2, 2025 • 42min
ICYMI: The Church's Alarming Neglect of the Old Testament (Brent Strawn) Ep. 181
In this insightful discussion, Dr. Brent Strawn, author of "The Old Testament is Dying," highlights the troubling neglect of the Old Testament in modern Christianity. He argues that this oversight leads to a diminishing scriptural literacy and a superficial faith. Dr. Strawn emphasizes the need for immersion in the Old Testament to truly understand concepts like justice and covenant. He proposes practical solutions for revitalizing its teachings in worship and everyday practice, ultimately calling for a deeper engagement with these foundational texts.

Dec 26, 2024 • 35min
ICYMI: The Biblical Authors vs. Greek Philosophy (Joseph Dodson) Ep. 180
This episode was originally published on April 2, 2021. We thought it was worth a reissue for our newer listeners.
In this episode, Dr. Dru Johnson sits down with Dr. Joseph Dodson to explore the intersection of Greco-Roman philosophy, Stoicism, and Hebraic thought in shaping the New Testament. Dr. Dodson explains how the Bible didn’t emerge in a vacuum but within a dynamic cultural context influenced by Judaism and Greco-Roman ideas.
The discussion highlights Stoicism, the dominant philosophy of the first century, which emphasized overcoming passions, achieving contentment, and the transformative power of reason. Dr. Dodson demonstrates how Stoic principles overlap with Christian teachings, as seen in Paul’s writings and the Gospel of John, which incorporates philosophical concepts like the Logos. He also examines how biblical authors adapted, affirmed, and challenged these ideas to articulate a distinctly Hebraic worldview.
Dr. Dodson emphasizes the importance of studying texts like the Apocrypha and Greco-Roman writings to fully grasp the intellectual milieu of early Christianity. He explains how Jewish and Hellenistic ideas coexisted in a “roundabout,” influencing each other in profound ways.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Hebraic and Greco-Roman Thought
04:09 The Influence of Stoicism on New Testament Texts
13:32 Philosophical Foundations: Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle
20:01 The Interplay of Hellenistic and Hebrew Intellectualism
29:00 Recommended Readings for Understanding Context

Dec 19, 2024 • 29min
Judaism is About Love (Shai Held) part 2 Ep. 179
Rabbi Dr. Shai Held, a respected Rabbi and author, shares profound insights from his book, exploring the intersection of love, law, and chosenness in Jewish theology. He emphasizes that God's love for Israel is unique yet inclusive, advocating for a balance between divine grace and humility. Delving into the ethics of love, he tackles the complexities of loving one’s neighbors and even enemies, enriched by personal stories that reveal love's demanding and transformative power. His reflections encourage deeper consideration of justice and compassion within faith.

Dec 12, 2024 • 42min
Judaism is About Love (Shai Held) part 1 Ep. 178
Rabbi Dr. Shai Held, president and dean of the Hadar Institute, explores the profound connection between love and law in Judaism. He argues that Jewish commandments are not mere rules but pathways to cultivate love for God and others. Through examples, he illustrates how practices like loving the stranger embody this belief. The discussion also highlights the importance of Jewish rituals and their role in fostering community through love. Held’s blend of traditional and modern interpretations offers an accessible glimpse into Jewish spirituality.