

A Gay and A NonGay
James Barr and Dan Hudson
In a time where we're all threatened by a rhetoric of hate from the people in power; A Gay And A NonGay challenges our differences. No matter who you are, or what you're into, gay's and nongay's can & should be friends.'Highly Recommended' Guardian'One of the most fundamentally kind and funny podcasts in Britain' RadioTimes'A hilarious take on love, friendship and sex' TimeOutAn independent podcast from James Barr (@imjamesbarr) and Dan Hudson (@DanHudson). Find us on Insta, TikTok, Twitter and Facebook @gaynongayGet bonus content on Patreon, with our super exclusive fan feed
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Apr 16, 2025 • 24min
If I Wasn't Gay... Who Would Appreciate This Bum?
On this week's episode of A Gay And A NonGay, we're talking about all things marriage! But, not how you would think...
James & Dan are talking about how marriage impacts your physical appearance, and the differences in that between gay and straight men. This leads onto a bigger conversation around the societal perceptions of sexuality based on your look.
Along the way, they explore the implications of male loneliness, the importance of maintaining individual passions and the necessity of inclusivity in striving for equality.
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Apr 9, 2025 • 17min
Is Laughter A Privilege?
Can comedy ever be homophobic? Well, of course it can, but on this week's episode of A Gay And A NonGay we're talking about the complexities of making jokes that involve sensitive topics like transphobia.
James and Dan discuss whether the power of laughter can sometimes be a privilege and the impact that their identity has on their comedic approaches.
Plus, stay until the end to get a teaser of next weeks episode!
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Mar 29, 2025 • 35min
Resisting Moving Backwards with Divina de Campo
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Mar 26, 2025 • 27min
I Identify As Love with Toby Marlow and Lucy Moss
We're joined by the creators of two of the theatre world's most successful new musicals of recent years! Toby Marlow and Lucy Moss are the creative minds behind the hit musicals Six and Why Am I So Single.On this episode of A Gay And A NonGay, James and Dan chat to Toby and Lucy about their journey from university theatre productions to global success - including their motivations and creative processes.They chat about the unexpected success of Six, the autobiographical inspirations for Why Am I So Single? and the experiences with fans.Plus... why does it suck being on dating apps? The theatre stars share their insights!Thank you to our sponsors...Secure your privacy with Surfshark! Go to surfshark.com/agaang for 4 extra months of Surfshark.Follow A Gay & A NonGayTikTok: @gaynongayInstagram: @gaynongayYouTube: @gaynongayFacebook: @gaynongayWebsite: gaynongay.comEmail Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 19, 2025 • 26min
It's Not That We Don't Like You... Criticism Is Important!
Do you know what a 'war pig' is? Dan's friend Olga thinks that James might! On this week's episode of A Gay And A NonGay, we're talking all about cultural references and critiques, including the importance of criticism.From debating whether we should be offended by the 'war pigs' term, to seeing how the community critiques art (look to Lady Gaga's new album) and the subjectivity of reviews and journalism... should you support art to support a community, even if you think the art itself isn't that good?Plus we test new jokes and complain about old tech woes!Thank you to our sponsors...Secure your privacy with Surfshark! Go to surfshark.com/agaang for 4 extra months of Surfshark.Follow A Gay & A NonGayTikTok: @gaynongayInstagram: @gaynongayYouTube: @gaynongayFacebook: @gaynongayWebsite: gaynongay.comEmail Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 12, 2025 • 18min
Open Relationships, Egg Shortages and Adventures Abroad
It's another week of A Gay And A NonGay and we're got a bunch of catching up to do!James has just returned from Australia, whilst Dan has returned from New York... we find out all about what they have been getting up to and their views on the political climate under President Trump. What is the potential impacts on the cuts to DEI initiatives and the rights of the LGBTQ+ community?We also tackle a listener's question about the prevalence of open relationships in the queer community and explore what might be causing this trend.Thank you to our sponsors...Secure your privacy with Surfshark! Go to surfshark.com/agaang for 4 extra months of Surfshark.Follow A Gay & A NonGayTikTok: @gaynongayInstagram: @gaynongayYouTube: @gaynongayFacebook: @gaynongayWebsite: gaynongay.comEmail Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 5, 2025 • 38min
Let's Talk About Alice with Caroline Litman
Trigger Warning: This episode contains multiple mentions of suicide and suicidal thoughts as well as themes that some listeners may find triggering.In many ways, Caroline Litman was the type of supportive Mum that any trans child could dream to have. She was supportive of her daughter, Alice, who was on the waiting list for gender affirming care.Alice was on the waiting list for a gender identity clinic appointment for 1,023 days when she took her own life. Ever since then, Caroline has fought for trans rights, in an attempt to ensure that the pain her daughter went through never needs to be experienced by anybody else, ever again.On this episode of A Gay And A NonGay, James and Dan are joined by Caroline to talk about the state of trans rights in the UK, her embarrassment about what she used to believe, whether we should be respectful to transphobic people online and why the gender critical movement is so well organised.Follow A Gay & A NonGayTikTok: @gaynongayInstagram: @gaynongayYouTube: @gaynongayFacebook: @gaynongayWebsite: gaynongay.comEmail Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 26, 2025 • 22min
Sex Positivity... Or Has It All Gone Too Far?
She's the name on everybody's lips... but what does the rise of Bonnie Blue tell us about societal double standards?In a society that is increasingly sex positive, it seems that opinions differ amongst the A Gay And A NonGay community. Dan (representing the NonGays) feels like maybe this has all gone too far... whilst James (representing the Gays) believes that the outrage exposes some hypocrisy in society. Through-out the debate, both James and Dan grapple with their own opinions and shed light on the broader implications of sexual freedom and stigma.Plus, before all of this, a Super Bowl prediction... after the Super Bowl!Follow A Gay & A NonGayTikTok: @gaynongayInstagram: @gaynongayYouTube: @gaynongayFacebook: @gaynongayWebsite: gaynongay.comEmail Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 19, 2025 • 19min
Revisiting Jack Rooke Live At Edinburgh Fringe
We're throwing it back this week on A Gay And A NonGay as we revisit James & Dan's episode with Jack Rook, from Channel 4's Big Boys.Recorded live at Edinburgh Fringe in 2019, James and Dan chat all about the acclaimed TV show, plus they talk about dealing with homophobia at school, overcoming internalised shame, redefining mental health within the queer community and the dynamics of their own identities.Jack also highlights the importance of diverse representation and collective support among LGBTQ+ individuals.Follow A Gay & A NonGayTikTok: @gaynongayInstagram: @gaynongayYouTube: @gaynongayFacebook: @gaynongayWebsite: gaynongay.comEmail Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 12, 2025 • 28min
They're A Massive Gay! But What Does That Mean?
Don't worry, we haven't just time travelled back to 2021! This week's episode of A Gay And A NonGay is recorded virtually... but Dan & James are still the same (even if they do speak over each other a bit).Once the hilarious technical bits get ironed out, we're asking: What makes you a 'massive gay'? We're digging into the stereotypes found in everyday conversations and debunking them, one gay and nongay at a time.Plus, James and Dan turn to politics to discussing the implications of President Trump's policies on marginalised communities in the US. Could those corporate Pride initiatives be fading into the background?Follow A Gay & A NonGayTikTok: @gaynongayInstagram: @gaynongayYouTube: @gaynongayFacebook: @gaynongayWebsite: gaynongay.comEmail Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices