
The Coach's Journey - build a coaching business with integrity
Coach’s Journey founder Robbie Swale and a team of hosts interview coaches about how they created a successful business and how they create impact for their clients.
Through these conversations, you can learn how each coach came to coaching, grew their coaching practice and found their way to the successful business they have today. Each interview, like each journey, is different. But each is also packed with insights, tips, suggestions and ideas to grow your coaching business and have even greater impact creating change in the lives of your clients. Past guests include life coaches, business coaches, executivecoaches, career coaches, leadership coaches and more. Some are household names; some are coaches you’ve never heard of. All of them share ideas on the key topics for creating a coaching business: money, fees, impact with clients, training and more. About Robbie: Robbie Swale is a leadership coach, podcaster and the author of four books. He has trained with masters in the field of coaching and building coaching businesses, including Rich Litvin, Robert Holden and guests on the podcast like Katie Harvey and Myles Downey. He is the creator of The Coaching Business Flywheel, which attempts to boil down everything he has learned from many years supporting coaches to grow their businesses and interviewing amazing coaches on this podcast, into one simple, actionable model. Subscribe and read more about the podcast, The Coach’s Journey Community and get the free ebook An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel at www.thecoachsjourney.com
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Sep 3, 2020 • 2h 9min
Episode #16: Jamie Smart - How Having a 100% Belief in Your Clients’ Innate Capacities Can Transform the Way You Work
Jamie Smart, Sunday Times best-selling author, speaker, and coach, got to where he is today through a series of moments of profound realisation and insight. The first of which was a calling to public speaking even though he was terrified of it at the time.In 2003, Jamie started the company Salad, and quickly grew a tribe of over 80,000 people who devoured his articles and personal development products. Salad soon became one of the world’s leading NLP product businesses and, despite its success, Jamie once again found himself looking for something more. In 2008, a series of significant insights brought him to a new paradigm, the principles of CLARITY®. He stopped teaching NLP, sold Salad, and never looked back.Today, Jamie has five books to his name. He works with individuals and businesses helping them create the results that matter to them as well as running professional development workshops. He has appeared on Sky TV, the BBC, and in numerous publications including The Daily Telegraph.In this episode, we talk about:The two most valuable things that anyone can learn - the truth of how our experience is created and who we really are.Why he recommends working with a package model over charging by the hour - how to avoid losing your business over night.The breakthroughs in psychology that he believes are as significant as the discovery of germs were to medicine.The five questions to ask yourself and your client at the beginning of a new engagement.Plus, we find out about childbed fever in the 1800s and what we can learn from four-year-olds.For more information about Jamie, visit: www.jamiesmart.comFor information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.For more information the new training from Marcia Reynolds (the guest in Episode #14), which Robbie mentioned in the introduction, visit https://coach.wbecs.com/Marcia-Reynolds/a182301Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~5: Marcia Reynolds’ Keys to Breakthrough Coaching Masterclass: https://coach.wbecs.com/Marcia-Reynolds/a182301~11: Regent’s University: https://www.regents.ac.uk/~23: Jamie Smart’s books: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jamie-Smart/e/B00N7HMHL8?ref_=dbs_p_pbk_r00_abau_000000~23: Jamie’s fifth book, The Profitable Coaches Scorecard: https://www.amazon.com/Profitable-Coaches-Scorecard-Jamie-Smart/dp/0995613419#:~:text=In%20Jamie%20Smart's%20book%2C%20The,life%20and%20in%20the%20world.~24: The CLARITY® certification training module: https://www.jamiesmart.com/clarity-coach-training/~36: Salad NLP: http://saladltd.co.uk/~37: Tim Ferriss’s book The 4-hour Work Week: https://www.amazon.co.uk/4-Hour-Work-Week-Escape-Anywhere/dp/0091929113~38: Michael Neill: https://www.michaelneill.org/~40: Missing Link by Sydney Banks: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Missing-Link-Reflections-Philosophy-Spirit/dp/1772130176#:~:text=The%20Missing%20Link%20is%20the,read%20it%20to%20enjoy%20it.~44: George Carlin: https://georgecarlin.com/~46: Sydney Banks: http://sydbanks.com/~ 47: The Clarity Life Community Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/claritylifecommunity/~51: Christina Mitchell: https://www.christinamitchell.co.uk/~1.10: The Chimp Paradox by Dr Steve Peters: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Chimp-Paradox-Management-Programme-Confidence/dp/009193558X~1.17: ClarityPro: https://www.clarityacademy.co/ClarityProClosed~1.45: Ignaz Semmelweis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis~1.45: Germ Theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease~1.45: Gregory Bateson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Bateson~1.47: Hermann von Helmholtz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_von_Helmholtz~1.48: Anil Seth’s Ted Talk: Your Brain Hallucinates Your Conscious Reality: https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality?language=en#t-991~2.06: Jamie’s book, Results: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Results-Think-Less-Achieve-More/dp/0857087096~2.06: Jamie’s book, The Little Book of Results: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Little-Book-Results-Quick-Achieving/dp/0857087800~2.07: The Thriving Coaches Blueprint: https://www.clarityacademy.co/tcbclosed~2.07: The Career Transition Blueprint: https://www.clarityacademy.co/ctbclosed~2.10: The Clarity Life Community Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/claritylifecommunity/~2.10: The Thriving Coaches Podcast: https://www.jamiesmart.com/tcp/~2.10: Get CLARITY® with Jamie Smart Podcast: https://www.jamiesmart.com/claritynow/~2.10: The CLARITY® Certification Training: https://www.jamiesmart.com/clarity-coach-training/

Aug 6, 2020 • 2h 8min
Episode #15: Toku McCree - Sales With Honour and Love on the End of a Sword
Toku McCree is a former Zen Monk and a renowned Executive Coach. His life changed after meeting a man at a party who had a calmness about him that Toku had never seen before. From there he fell in love with mediation, spent two and a half years in a monastery, and went on to launch a six-figure coaching practice.Toku had over 30 jobs before he was 30 - from running a sumo chicken boxing ring to tuning guitars for rock bands, being a pre-school teacher and even working on a political campaign. But it took becoming a monk for him to realise that the sense of purpose and meaning he’d been avoiding through most of his twenties was in fact what he needed to turn his life towards.His writing and thoughts have been featured in The Huffington Post, Zen Habits, TEDx, The Change Blog, The Good Men Project, and Tiny Buddha. He launched Samurai Coaching Dojo to support coaches. And, he loves the practice of selling, so much so that his upcoming book, The Art of Honorable Sales, is a love letter to the process.In this episode, we talk about:Klaus and the Buddha - the characters that show up in his coaching and the roles they play.The practice of raising your rates - why there is a particular time as a coach to set a rate and stick to it.Sales as a spiritual practice - how to stop holding your nose through the sales conversation and the false choice between selling skilfully and living with honour.The magic questions to ask at the end of the enrolment process - how to find the tension that leads to commitment.Plus, we walk through an 'honourable' sales process and there's an exclusive offer to read the Beta version of Toku’s book before it comes out.For more information about Toku, visit: www.unexecutive.com.For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned that you might be interested in:~12: Rich Litvin Intensives: https://richlitvin.com/intensive-rli/~12: Toku’s Coaches Rising Podcast: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/transformative-enrolment-moving-beyond-yes-and-no/~30: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://theprosperouscoach.com/praise/~30: Jason Goldberg: http://www.thejasongoldberg.com/~30: Steve Chandler: https://www.stevechandler.com/~35: Hans Philips: https://www.ontoco.com/~39: Toku’s Coaching Dojo: https://samuraicoachingdojo.com/~57: Toku’s Coaching Dojo: https://samuraicoachingdojo.com/~1.59: Toku’s No Woman Vision Quest: https://www.kendracunov.com/ - https://www.kendracunov.com/no-man-diet/, http://unexecutive.com/no-woman-vision-quest/~2.00: A beta version of Toku’s book: http://unexecutive.com/sell-with-honor~2.01: Toku’s Coaching Mastermind: https://unexecutive.lpages.co/embodied-coach~2.03: Ben Allen: https://www.tonicbooks.online~2:03: Matt Thieleman: https://medium.com/@thieleman1~2.03: Partnership work with Matt Thieleman and Atlas: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-atlasq/~2:04: Christina Salerno: https://www.s-l.xyz/

Jul 27, 2020 • 1h 50min
Episode #14: Marcia Reynolds - Becoming the world's #5 Coaching Guru, being ICF President and writing *another* book about coaching
For Marcia Reynolds, coaching evolved as a highly effective learning tool, discovered through her work training leaders in the corporate world. She is now a world-renowned expert on coaching ranked #5 on Global Gurus’ list of coaching thought-leaders, has delivered programs and coached leaders in 41 countries, and has written four coaching books.She also turned 20 in jail and credits her transformation, at least in part, to the women she did time with. From the rabbit hole of drug abuse to achieving multiple master’s degrees, her first ‘tough coach’ was her cellmate who taught her to get out there and make a difference in the world.Marcia witnessed the rise in coaching ‘as a thing’ first hand. She trained as a coach in the mid-90s and was one of the first assessors for the International Coaching Federation and for training school, Coach U. She was also a founding member of the ICF where she went on to be president for over two years. In this episode, we find out Marcia offers so many insights from her years of experience that coaches at all levels with find things to take and use in their own practice.In particular, we talk about:Why now is the time to shut up and listen.Why coaching is the best learning technology we have.Why mastery is the deepening of presence not the perfection of skills and the importance of receiving as opposed to listening in great coaching.What to do if a client says they want a plan (and why making the plan with them is not always the most powerful thing to do).And, as Marcia launches her fourth book on coaching Coach the Person, Not the Problem, we find out what compelled her to write another book about coaching.Plus, some myth-busting about the things we think we can’t do in coaching and a story that features a snake and a roadrunner… That’s right, a snake and a roadrunner!For those who want to learn more about Marcia’s forthcoming Breakthrough Coaching Training, register for the free 90-minute masterclass here: https://coach.wbecs.com/Marcia-Reynolds/a182301For more information about Marcia, visit: www.covisioning.com or find her on Twitter: www.twitter.com/MarciaReynolds or LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/marciareynolds.For more information about Marcia’s recent book, visit www.coachtheperson.com.For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~5: Time to Think by Nancy Kline: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Time-Think-Listening-Ignite-Human/dp/0706377451~5: Effective Modern Coaching by Myles Downey: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Effective-Modern-Coaching-Myles-Downey/dp/190779476X~9: The International Coach Federation (ICF): https://coachfederation.org/~13: Coach U Training School: https://www.coachu.com/~13: CTI: https://coactive.com/~14: Fran Fisher: https://www.franfishercoach.com/~20: Marcia’s Memoir, Unexpected Angels: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unexpected-Angels-Month-Journey-Light-ebook/dp/B0047GN9M4~ 21: Marcia’s TED Talks: https://www.ted.com/talks/dr_marcia_reynolds_dr_marcia_reynolds_how_to_handle_precocious_women_jan_2018~25: Marcia’s most recent book: https://coachtheperson.com~35: The Association of Coach Training Organisations (ACTO): https://actoonline.org/~38: Harriett Simon Salinger: http://www.hssalinger.com/~38: Julius Ordonez: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julius-ordonez-mcc-7948a911/~39: WBECs coaching demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2z_mvuEXPQ~43: The Coaching Habit by Michael Bungay Stanier: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Coaching-Habit-Less-Change-Forever/dp/0978440749~46: Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahnemann: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0141033576~46: Michael Gazzaniga: https://people.psych.ucsb.edu/gazzaniga/michael/~47: John Dewey: https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/How_We_Think.html?id=6-fof53Kq00C&redir_esc=y~48: Deb Barnard, Relational Dynamics 1st: https://relationaldynamics1st.co.uk/meet-the-team/~48: Byron Katie: https://thework.com/~49: Gretchen Rubin: https://gretchenrubin.com/~50: Marcia’s blog post referencing Straight Talk, Real Talk and Blunt Talk: https://covisioning.com/can-you-just-shut-up/~1.14: Shari Geller: https://www.sharigeller.ca/~ 1.16: Marcia’s three minute Goal Tending video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9sH3DrcCgE~1.22: Einstein quote: ‘If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on the solution, I would spend the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask.’~1.33: Marcia’s Books: https://covisioning.com/books/

Jun 4, 2020 • 1h 11min
Episode #13: Robbie on... everything I have learned about podcasting so far (with help from Adam Hulme)
A couple of months ago, my friend and former client Adam Hulme asked me if we could catch up, as he was in the process of creating a new podcast. He wanted to ask me what I had learned from the first few months of The Coach’s Journey Podcast. I decided to record the conversation and release it as an episode, as I knew that Adam wouldn’t be the last person to ask how I made my decisions about creating a podcast.So this episode is structured around the brilliant set of questions that Adam brought to me, about how I went about creating this podcast, what I have learned, what I would advise other people to do, and what I might do differently if I started again.In particular, I talk about:How I structure my interviews (and what I have done to try and make them as useful to listeners as possible).Loads of the nitty gritty detail: RSS feeds, editing, hosting, gear/tech setup and more.My three ‘must do’s if you are creating a podcast.And you get to meet Adam, and great coach and dynamic entrepreneur, and hear about his new podcast (with co-host Kerry Hearsey), Two Coach Confidence.Of course I’ve only made 13 podcast episodes to date, but I hope that at the very least what I have shared in this episode and via the links below will help some people shortcut the research they need to do and - even better - help people feel empowered to get out there and make something cool.For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.For more about Adam visit https://mycoachforlife.com/, and to listen to his podcast Two Coach Confidence (which he hosts along with Kerry Hearsey), visit: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1071241Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people I mentioned (that you might be interested in):~4: The Joe Rogan Experience: http://podcasts.joerogan.net/ ~5: The Jordan B Peterson Podcast: https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/podcast/~6: Squarespace and a discount code: https://www.squarespace.com/coupons~9: Mums In Business Association: https://www.mumsinbusinessassociation.com/~9: Kerry Hearsey from Two Coach Confidence: https://kerryhearsey.com/~14: The Tim Ferriss Show: http://tim.blog/podcast~26: Tim Ferris’s blog about building a podcast: https://tim.blog/2016/04/11/tim-ferriss-podcast-business/~26: Tim Ferris’s page of podcast gear: https://tim.blog/podcast-gear/~26: The video I mentioned (made by Pat Flynn) about how to edit a podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcUBZHOljzU~27: The gear I bought: Audio Technica ATR2100-USB Cardioid Dynamic USB/XLR Microphone (not on Amazon.co.uk right now); mic covers (apparently help with sound): https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B019OO4IY6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1; some wired headphones to plug into my mic (so you can hear yourself - I wanted to get some special ones for this): https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07Q724CXS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. Plus Audacity https://www.audacityteam.org/, Zoom (free for one-on-one conversations, including recording): https://zoom.us/ and Auphonic (https://auphonic.com/).~28: Joel Monk, the podcast episode where I spoke to him: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching. The mic he uses for his podcast is a Yeti Blue (which looks like it’s gone up in price since last time I checked! https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-Recording-Streaming-Condenser-Adjustable/dp/B00N1YPXW2/).~36: Article I used about which podcast platforms to upload your podcast to: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/promotion/best-podcast-directories-where-to-list/~38: My sister’s podcast, Thank You For The Pain I Needed It For My Art: https://podcast.app/tyfta-lro-the-podcast-p803129/. She used Anchor.FM to host it: https://anchor.fm/~38: Auphonic: https://auphonic.com/~40: My ‘information for guests’ document.~43: My 12-minute blog: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/~65: The episode of the podcast with Katie Harvey about coaching curing coronavirus: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/coaching-during-coronavirus-katie-harvey

May 7, 2020 • 1h 45min
Episode #12: Robbie on... three of the most important parts of any coach's journey: commitment, creating it and doing your own work
This is another episode of the podcast where I (Robbie Swale) share some of my thoughts. Like in episode 8, I’m going back to some content I previously created and sharing it again here as a podcast episode. As I listen back (sometimes for the first time), I also provideupdates, extra ideas and extra links as I go.The content I (re)share in this episode is what I created when I sat down to think about this question: what have I learned about the most important parts, aspects, shifts or stages that coaches almost always go through if they are going to create a sustainable, successful coaching business, whatever that means for them?So many of the ideas that have been most helpful for me in my journey are contained in this episode; in some ways these videos turned out to be a summary of what I had learned from the first three years of having transforming people’s lives as my work.In particular, I talk about:Why you need commitment if you are going to create a coaching business in line with your integrity (and why confidence is a con).The power of the shift to embodying the belief that you can create your own coaching business and how to make that shift.The many, many, many ways that doing your own work is fundamental to life as a coach, including what counts as doing work on yourself.Within that there are so many little details and nuggets in here, including: why I think the Prosperous Coach has been such an important book for so many coaches; how we slip into feeling under threat in our coaching work and how to move back into a sense of trust; and why, confusingly, making a commitment frees you rather than trapping you. Oh, and I dictate two invitations that any coach can use to jump-start their coaching business when they need to. Enjoy!For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.To watch the videos in their original form (and various other coaching videos), visit my YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5aalWAQqFp6yTk2jghSpeQMusic by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people I mentioned (that you might be interested in):~2: My brother, Ewan Townhead, whose ideas these videos were originally: https://www.ewantownhead.com/~3: The One Thing by Gary Keller, The Four-Hour Work Week by Tim Ferriss, The War of Art by Steven Pressfield.~4: The Coaching School Video with me talking really fast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhK4vS0nzk8~10: Resistance and Steven Pressfield - here’s a piece about this concept and its impact on me: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/dancing-with-resistance-a-lesson-from-my-first-year-as-a-coach~11: The Three Gateways to a Powerful Coaching Engagement article: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/the-three-gateways-to-a-powerful-coaching-engagement-getting-unstuck-growing-confidence-and-uncovering-possibility~11: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/~16:30: Nassim Nicholas Taleb: https://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/~19: Holly Aston: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/holly-aston-4a361553~22: Michael Neill: https://www.michaelneill.org/~29: The War of Art by Steven Pressfield: https://stevenpressfield.com/~30: Mike Toller: http://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/~32: Tim Ferriss and The Four=Hour Body: https://fourhourbody.com/~36: My article, ‘Recommitting Is The Journey’ - https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/recommitting-is-the-journey~45: My article, ‘How I Became a Full Time Coach Less Than Two Years After Starting My Training’ - https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/how-i-became-a-full-time-coach-less-than-two-years-after-starting-my-training~47: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler - https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/~48: Carolyn Freyer Jones: https://www.carolynfreyerjones.com/~48: Coaches Rising: https://www.coachesrising.com/ (check out episode 6 of this podcast for an interview with Coaches Rising Co-Founder Joel Monk: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching)~50: Diana Chapman from the Conscious Leadership Academy on the Coaches Rising Podcast where I heard her talk about trust and threat: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/stop-being-so-serious-playfulness-and-coaching/~58: Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/~62: The15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership by Diana Chapman, Jim Dethmer and Kaley Klemp: https://www.amazon.co.uk/15-Commitments-Conscious-Leadership-Sustainable-ebook/dp/B00R3MHWUE~75: Jamie Smart: https://www.jamiesmart.com/~76: Jo Hunter and her company, 64 Million Artists: https://64millionartists.com/about/~83: Joel Monk and the episode of this podcast where I interview Joel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching~84: The original 5-part Train Series of articles, in this order: https://linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-1-stories-robbie-swale/, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-2-change-robbie-swale/, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-3-time-alone-robbie-swale/, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-4-creativity-robbie-swale/, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-5-habits-robbie-swale/~90: The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks~92: My article about time management, where I speak about some of Gay Hendricks’ insights: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/15-ways-transform-your-relationship-time-get-more-done-robbie-swale/~93: My article about the most important reasons to hire a coach, if you are a coach: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/6-reasons-why-hiring-a-coach-is-the-most-important-thing-for-you-to-do-if-you-want-a-successful-coaching-business~94: Jordan Hall on Rebel Wisdom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j3cCrpXERg

Apr 2, 2020 • 1h 2min
Episode #11: Coaching During Coronavirus with Katie Harvey
These are strange times to be alive, and that includes being alive and working as a coach.When I heard that Katie Harvey, who has racked up over 14,000 hours of coaching and 13 years of supporting other coaches, was putting together her thoughts on how to coach during a time like this, I invited her back on the podcast straight away.In this episode, Katie and I speak about the various ways that our coaching and our practices have changed or been affected by the coronavirus outbreak, and give some advice and suggestions to other coaches for how to survive and even thrive amidst the uncertainty: as individuals, in our coaching practices, and as an industry.In particular, we talk about:- How, more than perhaps ever before, coaches have a shared context with their clients, and the implications of this for our work.- How to manage the start of a coaching conversation, the client’s agenda and the need to address the greater context.- How to deal with technological problems when coaching online.- The implications for coaches as self-employed entrepreneurs, and in particular the importance of questioning our assumptions around what this will mean for our businesses.And we finish with a conversation about the opportunity that the current situation presents for coaches individually, and for the coaching industry as a whole. As Katie says, ‘The opportunity for coaching here is absolutely huge: it’s up to every one of us to take the opportunity to help our profession grow in whatever way lights your fire.‘For more information about Katie, email her at katie@katieharveycoaching.co.uk.For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~6: The preview of my book, which I have shared in case it may help you or someone you know in these times of uncertainty: The Power To Choose Preview - https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com/writing/2020/3/23/why-am-i-sharing-parts-of-my-forthcoming-book-the-power-to-choose~6: The latest articles in my blog: Things Get Broken by the Dark Times. But Things Get Made In Those Times, Too - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/things-get-broken-dark-times-made-those-too-robbie-swale/; Now Is The Time To Focus On Stability And Order: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/now-time-focus-stability-order-robbie-swale/; and What Did You Do During the Coronavirus Pandemic: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-did-you-do-during-coronavirus-pandemic-robbie-swale/~6: The offer of coaching from myself and some trusted colleagues: https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com/coaching-for-uncertain-times~7: Katie’s document for coaches, which inspired this episode: Coaching In These Unprecedented Times: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5d286f97132cd000011e67f4/t/5e834324602f5702ab67febb/1585660709398/KHC_Coaching_Unprecendented_Times.pdf~15: Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps by Jennifer Garvey Berger - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07NWWRXC5/~46: Rich Litvin - http://www.richlitvin.com/~48: BetterUp - https://www.betterup.com/~51: My 12-Minute Articles - you can read the latest ones on my LinkedIn, here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/ and read a little about the process here: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/power-commitment-robbie-swale/. The ones I have written about the coronavirus outbreak are linked to here: https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com.~52: Mike Toller - http://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/~55: aim-you - https://www.aim-you.com/volunteers1~58: The offer me and two colleagues made: Coaching for Uncertain Times - https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com/coaching-for-uncertain-times~60: Kubler-Ross Change Curve - https://www.cleverism.com/understanding-kubler-ross-change-curve/

Mar 12, 2020 • 1h 57min
Episode #10: Marianne Craig - Founding Firework Coaching, Questioning Everything and Where Were the Coaches When the Banks Went Down?
Marianne Craig is a master coach and the co-founder of Firework Coaching Company, home of the renowned and proven Firework framework for helping people change career. From a young age, Marianne realised the value of questioning everything, but that only started to become her profession in the midst of what Marianne calls a fulfillment crisis. She was listening to BBC Woman’s Hour in 1999 when she heard a coach speaking. By the end of the programme she was already calling the helpline: she knew it was what she wanted to do for a living.Since then, she has racked up thousands of hours of coaching, founding Firework in 2003, becoming an ICF accredited Master Coach in 2005 and forming many other collaborations including Mirus Coaching for Social Change, Mentor Coaches International and a new project providing pro bono coaching to Extinction Rebellion activists.With 25 years' experience as a business owner, coach and consultant she works with people who are at a life or career crossroads. Her specialism is supporting clients to find meaningful and fulfilling work.In this episode, we talk about:- How, as a working class little girl on a council estate near Glasgow, she first learned about her sense of agency in the world.- How she created the renowned Firework Career Coaching Framework, started Firework Coaching Company and later sold it.- Why she has never got bored of her work with people changing careers.- What she thinks makes a great website for a coach (as one of the first people to have a coaching website) and how to launch it.- How she tried every kind of marketing in existence and what she learned from that experimentation (and what she recommends you do so you don’t have to experiment with everything).Plus, starting from Marianne’s bugbears about the coaching industry, we get into a fascinating conversation about the morals and ethics of coaching, and ask questions like, is the end is near for ‘the client’s agenda’ and ‘where were the coaches when the banks went down’?For more information about Marianne, visit: https://www.coachlifeandcareer.com/ or http://www.mentor-coach.com/For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~4: James Bianco and the Coach’s Journey episode with James: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-5-james-bianco-beware-your-simple-stories-about-coaching-success~5: Laura Berman Fortgang: https://laurabermanfortgang.com/~10: Coach U: https://www.coachu.com/~30 and ~37: Firework: https://www.fireworkcoaching.com/~38: Kate Edmunds: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/kate-edmonds-5aa25516~39: CTI: https://coactive.com/~40: Careershifters: http://www.careershifters.org/~40: My temping colleague, Amy, and her awesome vintage dress company, Clarence and Alabama: https://www.clarenceandalabama.co.uk/~41: Richard Alderson: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/richardalderson~54: Marianne’s ebook, So You Want To Become A Coach - A Guide to Training and Skills for Life and Business Coaching: http://www.mentor-coach.com/become_a_life_coach.htm~55: The ICF (International Coaching Federation) and their levels of credential, ACC, PCC and MCC: https://www.coachfederation.org.uk/credentialing/credential_path~56: Academy of Coaching Supervision: https://coachingsupervisionacademy.com/~58: ICF International events: https://coachfederation.org/events/icf-converge-2019~82: Sir John Whitmore and his book Coaching For Performance: https://www.performanceconsultants.com/coaching-for-performance-book~82: Association for Coaching: https://www.associationforcoaching.com/~90: Climate Change Coaches: https://www.climatechangecoaches.com/~93: Mirus Coaching for Social Change and Alma Neville~94: Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/~110: Exeter Street Hall, the new community centre where Marianne is a trustee: https://exeterstreethall.org/

Feb 27, 2020 • 2h 2min
Episode #9: Barry Ennis - Follow The Fire
His determination and attitude took Barry Ennis from runner to leader of senior management teams and multimillion-pound projects in a television career that involved a BAFTA-winning show, seven series of Who Wants To Be A Millionnaire? and… Beyonce! But when, in a moment of struggle, he took himself through a self-coaching exercise, he realised that his work in television didn’t speak to the values and passions that were at his core. He set out to find something different, and knew he had found it when - part way through training as a coach - some transformational work with a fellow student lit a fire in him.Since then, he has followed that fire to the sense of wonder he gets from the right learning, relationships which have enabled his business to thrive, and his new business, The Wake Up Method, providing organisations with a proven way to motivate, inspire, train and retain the next generation of managers and leaders.In this episode, we talk about:What he learnt from building his first business, The Guerilla Experience, (with business partner Teresa Klasener,) from their first event, to working in organisations, to what brought that company to an end.How he created his first corporate coaching offer during a call with a potential client.Why he says he runs a business, rather than works as a coach, and why he finds the term coaching unhelpful at times.The dangers of social media and how he uses it.Plus, Barry talks beautifully about his upbringing and where the stories that have supported his business have come from, including how the distinction between ‘I have a place’ and ‘Know your place’ has made all the difference for him, leaving him in power and not hopelessness.For more information about Barry, visit: www.TheWakeUpMethod.com, @TheWakeUpMethod on instagram or https://www.linkedin.com/company/thewakeupmethodFor information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~16: Barefoot Coaching - https://www.barefootcoaching.co.uk/~16: Kim Morgan - https://www.barefootcoaching.co.uk/about-us/kim-morgan~20: Transactional Analysis - https://www.itaaworld.org/~31: Giles Barrow - https://gilesbarrow.com/~44: Mariana Ipkendanz - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariana-ipkendanz-acc-125a70143/~48: International Coach Federation/ICF - https://www.coachfederation.org.uk/~69: Teresa Klasener - https://www.linkedin.com/in/teresaklasener/~78: BetterUp - http://www.betterup.com~82: The Berne Institute - https://theberne.com/~87: The podcast episode where I spoke to the guest, Joel Monk, about the neuroscience of goal setting was this one: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching In it, we refer back to this episode of the Coaches Rising Podcast with Richard Boyatzis: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/how-to-access-optimum-growth-states-in-coaching/~95: NABS – https://nabs.org.uk/~97: Kate Rees - https://www.katereescoaching.com/~101: Fiverr - https://www.fiverr.com/~103: Barry’s Brag Alert post on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/barry-ennis-coach_wakeup-coaching-coachofthemonth-activity-6630457599294783488-Rrly~109: Michael Neill - https://www.michaelneill.org/~116: Abraham Maslow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Maslow~119: Soil, Soul, Society by Satish Kumar~120: Ken Wilber - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber

Feb 13, 2020 • 1h 49min
Episode #8: Robbie on... how to structure engagements, conversations with potential clients, marketing for coaches and how his fees have evolved
This is a different kind of podcast episode. Instead of interviewing a guest, in this episode I (Robbie Swale) share the content of four videos I have previously made about coaching, bringing much of my thinking and body of work around coaching together in one place. But it’s not just the videos - I listen back to each one (mostly I had never listened back before!) and pull out particularly important thoughts and ideas, and share the things that have changed or developed in my thinking since the videos were originally recorded.In here is LOADS of insight that I’ve gleaned from many great coaches and teachers, and others who have influenced my work.In particular, I talk about:- Why I work with clients over a period of time not a number of sessions.- How I structure and think about my first conversation with a potential client.- Marketing for coaches: the importance of connecting, sharing yourself and doing great work.- How my fees have evolved over my time as a coach (in pretty granular detail).These are some of the most important things for coaches to think about, and is some of the most condensed thinking I have shared on the subjects. In and between the videos, I touch on loads of the ways I work as a coach, including: comparing the price of ‘per session’ with the price of a period of time; my rule for making networking events manageable; the importance of leadership as a coach; why it’s important to give people the chance to know you before they meet you; and how it’s vital to do the sums when it comes to your coaching business.For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.To watch the videos in their original form (and various other coaching videos), visit my YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5aalWAQqFp6yTk2jghSpeQMusic by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people I mentioned (that you might be interested in):~5: Sam Chillcott – https://www.samchillcott.com/~8: Joel Monk (http://joel-monk.com/) and the podcast episode where I interviewed him: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching~27: Phil Bolton (http://www.phil-bolton.com/), The Coaching School (http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk) and the podcast episode where I interviewed him: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders~27: Rich Litvin and The Prosperous Coach: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/~28: Rich Litvin’s video – How To Coach Someone You Don’t Know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoaM2PwzHRQ~30: Jamie Smart: https://www.jamiesmart.com/~31: Giovanna Capozza: https://giovannacapozza.com/~35: Rich Litvin’s video, The Art of the Proposal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjwzfLIA8w0~43: Rich Litvin’s blog - How I Create a Powerful End to a Coaching Engagement: https://richlitvin.com/powerful-end-coaching-agreement/~63: My sister, Ro, and her website: http://l-r-o.com/~66: My brother, Ewan and his article about healing our allergies to marketing: https://www.ewantownhead.com/how-to-heal-our-allergies-to-marketing/~70: My article, Dancing with Resistance: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dancing-resistance-lesson-from-my-first-year-coach-robbie-swale/~71: My 12-minute articles, which you can browse here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/~81: The now-resting Coaching School: http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk~82: Mike Toller: http://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/~84: The 90 Day Money Game: https://richlitvin.com/the-90-day-money-game/~90: The group coaching call I recorded, where you can watch me working with three coaches at once: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFBvAVfZrKQ

Jan 30, 2020 • 1h 24min
Episode #7: Kristen Kosinski - The Power of Being Truly Seen, With All Your Messiness
Kristen Kosinski is a coach, consultant and founder who empowers her clients to achieve the impossible, lead fearlessly, inspire others and manifest their dreams. Midway through a career as a successful executive in Hollywood, Kristen sat down with a woman on the recommendation of a friend. That woman was Mona Miller, the late coach, author and teacher, and over the next 12 years Mona and Kristen worked together as Kristen’s career and relationships were transformed. As part of that work, she founded The Samburu Project, a non-profit organisation which has brought clean drinking water to over 100,000 people in Africa.Then, in 2016, after leaving The Samburu Project, she set off to do the work that she had learned from Mona, training as a coach and developing a business through a commitment to courage and doing her own deep work… among many other things.In this episode, we talk about:- How two hours with Mona Miller - the first time she felt all her messiness had been truly seen, in the most extraordinarily loving way - transformed her.- How Kristen came to believe that we live in a world where you can literally live your dreams, and why so many are afraid to even speak about their dreams, let alone follow them.- How visiting her father after his terminal cancer diagnosis gave her permission to leave behind the dream she had had as a child and strike out on a new path- The writing practice she uses to deal with the pain of getting ‘No’s.Plus, in the final part of the call, Kristen and I get into detail exploring, together, some of the questions about how to structure coaching engagements, what the optimal length is and whether to offer one-off conversations to potential clients.For more information about Kristen, visit her website: https://kristenkosinski.com/For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):First things first, mentioned throughout the call, Mona Miller: http://www.monamiller.com/~9: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/~23: The non-profit organisation Kristen founded, The Samburu Project: https://thesamburuproject.org/~35: Rich Litvin’s not-currently-offered Prosperous Coach Salon~46: iPEC/the Institute for Professional Excellence in Coaching: https://www.ipeccoaching.co.uk/~46: Coach U: http://www.coachinc.com/CoachU/~50: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/~52: Katie Harvey and the episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast with her as the guest: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach~59: Invisible Warfare by Mona Miller: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Invisible-Warfare-Mona-Miller/dp/0978665201~77: The Artist’s Way and Julia Cameron: https://juliacameronlive.com/the-artists-way/~82: Marianne Williamson: https://marianne.com/~82: A Course in Miracles by Dr Helen Schucman: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0018A01L4~82: An example of Marianne Williamson’s work on A Course in Miracles: https://marianne.com/365-days-of-a-course-in-miracles/