The Coach's Journey - build a coaching business with integrity

Joel Monk is a coach whose work transforms leaders beyond the limits of conventional success, and the Co-Founder of Coaches Rising, a community of over 19,000 coaches dedicated to having the biggest impact they can. Working as a community artist - and after a difficult period in his life - he moved into a Bhuddist house. There he met a coach, his soul spoke to him and he set off on a journey which has led him to coaching bank CEOs, TV personalities and… well… me!Alongside that, Joel and his Co-Founder Laurens Van Aarle created Coaches Rising, a pioneering training organisation bringing together thought-leaders from across the world and empowering coaches to create ever-better results. Coaches Rising brings together tens of thousands of coaches, has an amazing podcast (hosted by Joel), and runs some of the best (and best value) coach trainings available.All this means that Joel has spent time with many (if not most) of the most forward-thinking people in the world of coaching, which gives him perspectives on everything from enrolling clients to myriad coaching techniques to the newest and most advanced ideas at the cutting edge of what makes great coaching.In this episode, we talk about:- How problem solving and goal-setting can be traps that coaches fall into and what to do instead.- How he ended up living out of his jar of loose change and how being broke helped him change his story about money.- The roles serendipity and a tantric sex retreat played in him getting his most rewarding coaching gig ever.- His three pieces of advice for those new to coaching, and why he has faith that sincerity, dedication to the craft and putting the time in can make amazing things possible in anyone’s life.Plus, we have a conversation about the role coaching has to play in the strange, complex and sometimes-unsettling modern world.For more information about Joel, visit his website: http://joel-monk.com/ or Coaches Rising: https://www.coachesrising.com/For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~8: Robbie’s colleague Jo Hunter’s TEDx Talk about Creativity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eun2mJMs1DM and her everyday creativity company, 64 Million Artists: https://64millionartists.com/~12: Rivca Rubin: http://www.rivcarubin.com/~13: Fred Kofman (https://fredkofman.org/), Integral Naked and Ken Wilber (https://integrallife.com/who-is-ken-wilber/)~20: Robbie’s Twelve-Minute Writing Practice. You can browse all the pieces here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/ Or this one gives a description of the practice and its origins: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/creativity-fear-freedom-robbie-swale/~20: Steven Pressfield and The War of Art: (https://stevenpressfield.com/)~25: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/~30: THNK (School of Creative Leadership): https://www.thnk.org/~35: Tim Ferriss: https://tim.blog/~37: Jamie Wheal and his book, Stealing Fire: https://www.flowgenomeproject.com/team/jamie-wheal~37: The mouse study Robbie mentions (thanks Peter): https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2018/05/scientists-find-fear-courage-switches-in-brain.html~54: Laurens Van Aarle (https://www.coachesrising.com/about/), Ewan Townhead (https://www.ewantownhead.com/) & Coaches Rising (https://www.coachesrising.com)~55: Coaches Rising Podcast: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/~56: The two Coaches Rising programmes I have been on: Become a Transformative Presence (https://www.coachesrising.com/becomeatransformativepresence/) & The Art of Developmental Coaching (https://www.coachesrising.com/artofdevelopmentalcoaching/)~57: Coaches Rising Podcast with Richard Boyatzis about the neuroscience of goal setting: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/how-to-access-optimum-growth-states-in-coaching/~66: Peter Levine on polyvagal theory - this is the video that I watched, which I mention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiIm9NTC2JU. You might want to start from the first part of the series, though!~67: Jim Dethmer: https://conscious.is/team/jim-dethmer~68: Doug Silsbee and Presence-Based Coaching: https://presencebasedcoaching.com/~69: Steve March and Aletheia Coaching: https://integralunfoldment.com/~70: Circling: https://www.circlingeurope.com/~72: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/~72: Thomas Hübl: https://thomashuebl.com/~73: Jennifer Garvey Berger and her book, Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps: https://www.cultivatingleadership.co.nz/our-team/jennifer-garvey-berger~77: Steven Pinker: https://stevenpinker.com/publications/enlightenment-now-case-reason-science-humanism-and-progress~78: Daniel Schmachtenberger, Jordan Hall, Jamie Wheal (again), Rebel Wisdom, A good introduction to these thinkers is via the Rebel Wisdom YouTube Channel website (https://www.rebelwisdom.co.uk/) or YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFQ6Gptuq-sLflbJ4YY3Umw~78: Thomas Hübl (again), Circling (again).~79: Dave Snowden: https://cognitive-edge.com/. His framework, Cynefin, gives incredibly useful distinctions between complicated and complex. This is a great introductory video to Cynefin, with Jennifer Garvey Berger: https://conversational-leadership.net/video/video-an-introduction-to-cynefin/~81: Martin Heidegger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heidegger~82: Guy Sengstock: https://guysengstock.wordpress.com/~84: Margaret Wheatley - here’s Joel’s conversation with Margaret Wheatley on the Coaches Rising podcast: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/coaching-from-deep-service-in-times-of-collapse/~95: Jim Dethmer: https://conscious.is/team/jim-dethmer~100: THNK (again): https://www.thnk.org/~102: Joel’s website. He hasn’t had one for most of the time I’ve known him. http://joel-monk.com/~106: Angela Duckworth: https://angeladuckworth.com/~111: Minor Arias and The Coach’s Journey Podcast Episode #03, with him, which I mention: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-3-minor-arias-living-by-design-glz56~111: Rich Litvin (https://richlitvin.com/), Steve Chandler (https://www.stevechandler.com/), Kari Granger (https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/how-to-enrol-clients-and-create-amazing-proposals/)

James Bianco is a leadership and career coach and the founder of 16 Degrees Coaching. He spent 11 years working for the UK Department for International Development, working with ministers and introducing the Lean Start-Up methodology across DFID’s development programmes. Then, a desire to really see the positive impact of his work led him to discover coaching. He hasn’t looked back, clocking up over 2,000 hours of coaching in the first four years of his practice, including running career change webinars for thousands of people.In this episode, we talk about:- How learning the craft of coaching works and how ‘trying hard’ to become a great coach in fact is not the way to become a great coach.- The power of the stories we have about our success: how the simple story he had about successful coaches – that they work only on recommendation – at first empowered him to create a thriving business… and then made him doubt himself.- What he learnt from running coaching calls for over 100 people at a time for career-change experts Careershifters.- Networking: how James used his network to create opportunities, recommendations and referrals, and the importance of dispelling the myths we have about our networks.And listen out for the beautiful - and surprising - answer James gives when I ask him how he filled all the time he had when he left his civil service role to coach full time.www.thecoachsjourney.comFor more information about James, visit his website: https://www.16degreescoaching.co.uk/ or find him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-bianco/For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~10: The Grameen Bank: http://www.grameen.com/introduction/~10: Overseas Development Institute Fellowship Programme: https://www.odi.org/odi-fellowship-scheme~13: Marianne Craig: https://www.coachlifeandcareer.com/~18: Phil Bolton – Read about Phil here: http://phil-bolton.com/ or get to know him by listening to my interview with him in Episode #2: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders~18: The Coaching School: http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk/~22: Jim Dethmer: https://conscious.is/team/jim-dethmer~32: International Coach Federation (ICF) Competencies: https://coachfederation.org/core-competencies~38: Oxford Brooks Certification as a Skills and Performance Coach: https://www.brookes.ac.uk/courses/postgraduate/coaching-and-mentoring-practice/~67: Jennifer Garvey Berger: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-garvey-berger-7b4a264 and her book: Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unlocking-Leadership-Mindtraps-Thrive-Complexity/dp/1503609014~72: Omidyar Network: https://www.omidyar.com/~72: Luminate: https://www.omidyargroup.com/pov/organizations/luminate/~74: Careershifters: http://www.careershifters.org/~75: The Careershifters articles Robbie most regularly shares with clients: https://www.careershifters.org/expert-advice/the-lean-career-change-how-to-reduce-the-risk-and-increase-the-speed-of-your-shift and https://www.careershifters.org/expert-advice/struggling-to-find-your-ideal-work-why-looking-for-your-career-umbrella-will-get-you~96: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/~104: OCHA: https://www.unocha.org/~104: Social Tech Trust: https://socialtechtrust.org/

Catriona Horey is an executive coach based in London and a lead trainer, supervisor and assessor of coaching for the MOE Foundation. She spent the first ten years of her career transforming the performance of nonprofits, social enterprises and leaders in social innovation, but in 2013 a bereavement and a collapsed lung led to her reassessing her priorities, with the message ‘I’m too far away from the joy’ appearing in her mind. That set her off on her journey into coaching, leading to a thriving business today working with leaders in social innovation, high potential professionals and women who want to redefine their priorities.In this episode, we talk about:- How becoming a mother has been fundamental in the way she has developed her business and how it is possible to have it all, but over a lifetime.- The question her coach asked her which made her look at her whole career plan completely differently.- Marketing: why you should choose the marketing strategy that works for YOU, and the marketing distinction that made the difference for Catriona.- What Catriona did to generate 11 clients when her first batch of practice clients wrapped up.- The way Catriona thinks and talks about her purpose in life.Over the course of this podcast, Catriona and I hit SO MANY of the common questions and challenges coaches face, including money, the question of niche, coaching on the phone, networking, connecting and more. And in case we had missed any, make sure to listen to the end for Catriona’s five brilliant tips to shortcut to coaching success!www.thecoachsjourney.com For more information about Catriona, find her on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/catrionahorey or visit her (minimalist) website, which has been ‘coming soon’ ever since I met her, at https://www.withcatriona.com/For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~2 mins – Future Leaders Trust, now rebranded as Ambition School Leadership: https://www.ambition.org.uk/~4 - Andrea Berkeley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-berkeley-4056673/~15 – Camilla Mendoza: https://camillamendoza.com/~22 –Simon Hampel: https://leadersquest.org/people/simon-hampel~23 – MOE Foundation: https://moefoundation.com/~25 – Culture at Work: http://www.coachingcultureatwork.com/ and Carol Wilson: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/coachingcultureatwork~27 – Natalie Scholey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-scholey/~28 – Tony Phillips: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/tonyjphillips~32 – Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/~33 – Coaches Rising: https://www.coachesrising.com/~33 – CTI + their certification programme: https://coactive.com/~37 - Nicole Berg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolejberg/ and Coaching at Work: https://www.coaching-at-work.com/~42 – International Coaching Federation (ICF): https://coachfederation.org/ and their credentials, ACC and PCC: https://coachfederation.org/icf-credential~44 – Anna Lundberg: https://annaselundberg.com/~45- The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/~48 - My LinkedIn Articles: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/ and the first post I wrote as part of the ’12 minute’/train practice I designed with my coach: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-1-stories-robbie-swale/~64 – Catriona’s LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catrionahorey~66 – Climate Change Coaches and their Coaching Circle: https://www.climatechangecoaches.com/startyourjourney~69 – The Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust, Slimbridge: https://www.wwt.org.uk/wetland-centres/slimbridge~70 – Ramsar Treaty: https://www.ramsar.org/ ~93 – Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/~95 – Darren Robson: https://www.darrenrobson.com/~96 – Ben Dooley: http://bedo.org/~99 – Catriona’s List of Training: Masterful Coaching Mentor Group - Ben Dooley MCC - Completed 2018; Narrative Coach Enhanced Practitioner - WBECS (Dr David Drake) - Qualified 2018; Certified Professional Co-Active Coach (CPCC) - The Coaches Training Institute - Qualified 2015; Associate Certified Coach (ACC) and Member - International Coach Federation - Qualified 2015; Licensed Firework Career Coach - The Firework Coaching Company - Qualified 2015; Organisation & Relationship Systems at Work - CRR Global - Completed 2015; Core Skills Coaching Programme (Education Sector) - Growth Coaching International - Completed 2015; Coaching and the Enneagram - Success Intelligence (Robert Holden) - Completed 2014; MOE Professional Certified Coach - The MOE Foundation - Qualified 2014~102 – Ann Farrell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annfarrell1/~109 – WBECS: https://www.wbecs.com/, London Coaching Group: https://www.londoncoachinggroup.co.uk/~110 – Hub Dot: https://hubdot.com/

Minor Arias is a Costa Rican coach and entrepreneur and the author of two forthcoming books: VIVE por DISEÑO (LIVING by DESIGN) and Ya soy Coach, ¿y ahora qué? (I’m a coach, now what?). After 17 years working, managing and leading in multinational corporations, Minor became the first Hewlett Packard employee to receive coaching training in Costa Rica and set off on a journey into the world of coaching. It wasn’t all plain sailing, though: at the end of his first year as an entrepreneur he had made less than he would have in a month at Hewlett Packard and was on the edge of bankruptcy. Then a chance encounter via Toastmasters set him off on a journey to the thriving coaching business he runs today.In this episode, we talk about:- How Minor didn’t find coaching, coaching found him.- Why he chose to focus his work around coaching and not two other things he loves: speaking and training.- The simple calendar tool that his first coach taught him which led to turning his failing coaching practice around.- The origins of his new company, Vive Por Diseno (Living By Design).- What Minor has learned from founding that company: three key ideas for designing your own life.Plus, listen out for my incredibly shaky Spanish and Minor’s beautiful English and wonderful accent.For more information about Minor, visit www.lideresdeterminados.com or find him on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/minorarias/For full show notes, an extended biography of Minor and more about the podcast’s host, Robbie Swale, The Coach’s Journey podcast as a whole and The Coach’s Journey group programme, visit www.thecoachsjourney.com.For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~22 - John Maxwell Team and Certification: https://johnmaxwellteam.com~24 – The 360 Degree Leader by John Maxwell~28 – Toastmasters: https://www.toastmasters.org/~45 – Toastmasters Costa Rica: https://www.toastmasters.org/Find-a-Club/05159852-toastmasters-costa-rica~51 – Jason Leonard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%E2%98%85jason-leon-l-i-o-n-9k-followers-%E2%98%85-33594a32~60 – The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler~60 – The other podcast guest I mentioned, who read the Prosperous Coach and was relieved to find she was already doing it, was Katie Harvey. Listen to the full interview with Katie here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach

Phil Bolton is an International Coaching Federation Accredited Master Coach. After training as a forensic accountant and then working as an in-house coach at Deloitte in California, Phil moved back to his native UK and set out to become the go-to career coach in London. Then, after supporting hundreds of clients to take control of their career and find work they love, he started his second coaching business: supporting leaders and organisations that are pushing the boundaries, innovating and aiming to creating a better and more joyful world.Phil was also fundamental in Robbie’s (and many others’) development and learning as a coach through his now ‘resting’ coach training organisation, The Coaching School. Through that experience and others, he carries a wealth of experience in how to create amazing coaching experiences for clients on everything from holding boundaries with clients, to co-creating and partnership, to sales.In this episode, we talk about:- How he transitioned from forensic accountant to the go-to career coach in London, including how he created and developed that niche.- What he learned about how to structure a coaching engagement for someone changing careers from coaching hundreds and hundreds of people going through transition.- Why he left behind a full practice working with career changers to shift to working with MDs, CEOs and owners not just coaching them but supporting them across their businesses.- The ‘hard’ third or fourth coaching session: why his favourite bit of coaching engagements is the moment where clients doubt if the change they want is going to happen.- What Phil has learnt about sales from 13 years of running his businesses.- Why building a business that supports his lifestyle and self-care is fundamentally important to Phil.For more information about Phil, visit www.phil-bolton.com or find Phil on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/lessordinaryliving/For full show notes, an extended biography of Phil and more about the podcast’s host, Robbie Swale, The Coach’s Journey podcast as a whole and The Coach’s Journey group programme, visit www.thecoachsjourney.com.For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify at https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):IPEC coaching training: https://www.ipeccoaching.com/Rich Litvin: http://richlitvin.comThe Coaching School: http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk

Katie Harvey has been coaching for more than 18 years. In that time, she has racked up more than 14,000 hours of coaching which, she says, is more than any other coach she has met over that time. She was part of the vanguard of coaches in the UK and for more than 12 years has worked to support other coaches: supervising and mentoring coaches and training new coaches, including through CoachU.In this episode, we talk about:- How she racked up more than 14,000 hours of coaching.- The advantages and disadvantages of being part of the vanguard of coaching.- The question of 'niche' and why Katie calls herself a generalist coach.- What business and pricing model Katie has settled on after 18 years of experimentation.- And how a trying a coaching sales technique on a photographer.... ended up with them getting married!For more information about Katie, email her at katie@katieharveycoaching.co.uk.For full show notes, an extended biography of Katie and more about the podcast’s host, Robbie Swale, The Coach’s Journey podcast as a whole and The Coach’s Journey group programme, visit www.thecoachsjourney.com.For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify at https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~13 minutes: CoachU - http://www.coachinc.com/CoachU/~25: Vegard Olsen – https://coachingpartner.net/cp/en/vegard-olsen-2/~26: Laura Burkey - https://www.facebook.com/LauraBurkeyCoaching/~35: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler - https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/~46: Clare Pedrick - https://www.3dcoaching.com/claire-pedrick-mcc/~46: Bill Cummings - https://www.theboothbyinstitute.org/~70: Robbie’s video about how his coaching fees evolved over time - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-BSI5Cb8mU~80: Katie’s website - http://katieharveycoaching.co.uk/~96: Michael Neill - https://www.michaelneill.org/~99: Local International Coaching Federation Chapters: https://coachfederation.org/why-icf/chapter-map~99: Local Association for Coaching events: https://www.associationforcoaching.com/page/EventsOverview