The Coach's Journey - build a coaching business with integrity

A couple of months ago, my friend and former client Adam Hulme asked me if we could catch up, as he was in the process of creating a new podcast. He wanted to ask me what I had learned from the first few months of The Coach’s Journey Podcast. I decided to record the conversation and release it as an episode, as I knew that Adam wouldn’t be the last person to ask how I made my decisions about creating a podcast.So this episode is structured around the brilliant set of questions that Adam brought to me, about how I went about creating this podcast, what I have learned, what I would advise other people to do, and what I might do differently if I started again.In particular, I talk about:How I structure my interviews (and what I have done to try and make them as useful to listeners as possible).Loads of the nitty gritty detail: RSS feeds, editing, hosting, gear/tech setup and more.My three ‘must do’s if you are creating a podcast.And you get to meet Adam, and great coach and dynamic entrepreneur, and hear about his new podcast (with co-host Kerry Hearsey), Two Coach Confidence.Of course I’ve only made 13 podcast episodes to date, but I hope that at the very least what I have shared in this episode and via the links below will help some people shortcut the research they need to do and - even better - help people feel empowered to get out there and make something cool.For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.For more about Adam visit https://mycoachforlife.com/, and to listen to his podcast Two Coach Confidence (which he hosts along with Kerry Hearsey), visit: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1071241Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people I mentioned (that you might be interested in):~4: The Joe Rogan Experience: http://podcasts.joerogan.net/ ~5: The Jordan B Peterson Podcast: https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/podcast/~6: Squarespace and a discount code: https://www.squarespace.com/coupons~9: Mums In Business Association: https://www.mumsinbusinessassociation.com/~9: Kerry Hearsey from Two Coach Confidence: https://kerryhearsey.com/~14: The Tim Ferriss Show: http://tim.blog/podcast~26: Tim Ferris’s blog about building a podcast: https://tim.blog/2016/04/11/tim-ferriss-podcast-business/~26: Tim Ferris’s page of podcast gear: https://tim.blog/podcast-gear/~26: The video I mentioned (made by Pat Flynn) about how to edit a podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcUBZHOljzU~27: The gear I bought: Audio Technica ATR2100-USB Cardioid Dynamic USB/XLR Microphone (not on Amazon.co.uk right now); mic covers (apparently help with sound): https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B019OO4IY6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1; some wired headphones to plug into my mic (so you can hear yourself - I wanted to get some special ones for this): https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07Q724CXS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. Plus Audacity https://www.audacityteam.org/, Zoom (free for one-on-one conversations, including recording): https://zoom.us/ and Auphonic (https://auphonic.com/).~28: Joel Monk, the podcast episode where I spoke to him: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching. The mic he uses for his podcast is a Yeti Blue (which looks like it’s gone up in price since last time I checked! https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-Recording-Streaming-Condenser-Adjustable/dp/B00N1YPXW2/).~36: Article I used about which podcast platforms to upload your podcast to: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/promotion/best-podcast-directories-where-to-list/~38: My sister’s podcast, Thank You For The Pain I Needed It For My Art: https://podcast.app/tyfta-lro-the-podcast-p803129/. She used Anchor.FM to host it: https://anchor.fm/~38: Auphonic: https://auphonic.com/~40: My ‘information for guests’ document.~43: My 12-minute blog: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/~65: The episode of the podcast with Katie Harvey about coaching curing coronavirus: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/coaching-during-coronavirus-katie-harvey

This is another episode of the podcast where I (Robbie Swale) share some of my thoughts. Like in episode 8, I’m going back to some content I previously created and sharing it again here as a podcast episode. As I listen back (sometimes for the first time), I also provideupdates, extra ideas and extra links as I go.The content I (re)share in this episode is what I created when I sat down to think about this question: what have I learned about the most important parts, aspects, shifts or stages that coaches almost always go through if they are going to create a sustainable, successful coaching business, whatever that means for them?So many of the ideas that have been most helpful for me in my journey are contained in this episode; in some ways these videos turned out to be a summary of what I had learned from the first three years of having transforming people’s lives as my work.In particular, I talk about:Why you need commitment if you are going to create a coaching business in line with your integrity (and why confidence is a con).The power of the shift to embodying the belief that you can create your own coaching business and how to make that shift.The many, many, many ways that doing your own work is fundamental to life as a coach, including what counts as doing work on yourself.Within that there are so many little details and nuggets in here, including: why I think the Prosperous Coach has been such an important book for so many coaches; how we slip into feeling under threat in our coaching work and how to move back into a sense of trust; and why, confusingly, making a commitment frees you rather than trapping you. Oh, and I dictate two invitations that any coach can use to jump-start their coaching business when they need to. Enjoy!For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.To watch the videos in their original form (and various other coaching videos), visit my YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5aalWAQqFp6yTk2jghSpeQMusic by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people I mentioned (that you might be interested in):~2: My brother, Ewan Townhead, whose ideas these videos were originally: https://www.ewantownhead.com/~3: The One Thing by Gary Keller, The Four-Hour Work Week by Tim Ferriss, The War of Art by Steven Pressfield.~4: The Coaching School Video with me talking really fast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhK4vS0nzk8~10: Resistance and Steven Pressfield - here’s a piece about this concept and its impact on me: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/dancing-with-resistance-a-lesson-from-my-first-year-as-a-coach~11: The Three Gateways to a Powerful Coaching Engagement article: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/the-three-gateways-to-a-powerful-coaching-engagement-getting-unstuck-growing-confidence-and-uncovering-possibility~11: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/~16:30: Nassim Nicholas Taleb: https://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/~19: Holly Aston: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/holly-aston-4a361553~22: Michael Neill: https://www.michaelneill.org/~29: The War of Art by Steven Pressfield: https://stevenpressfield.com/~30: Mike Toller: http://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/~32: Tim Ferriss and The Four=Hour Body: https://fourhourbody.com/~36: My article, ‘Recommitting Is The Journey’ - https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/recommitting-is-the-journey~45: My article, ‘How I Became a Full Time Coach Less Than Two Years After Starting My Training’ - https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/how-i-became-a-full-time-coach-less-than-two-years-after-starting-my-training~47: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler - https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/~48: Carolyn Freyer Jones: https://www.carolynfreyerjones.com/~48: Coaches Rising: https://www.coachesrising.com/ (check out episode 6 of this podcast for an interview with Coaches Rising Co-Founder Joel Monk: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching)~50: Diana Chapman from the Conscious Leadership Academy on the Coaches Rising Podcast where I heard her talk about trust and threat: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/stop-being-so-serious-playfulness-and-coaching/~58: Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/~62: The15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership by Diana Chapman, Jim Dethmer and Kaley Klemp: https://www.amazon.co.uk/15-Commitments-Conscious-Leadership-Sustainable-ebook/dp/B00R3MHWUE~75: Jamie Smart: https://www.jamiesmart.com/~76: Jo Hunter and her company, 64 Million Artists: https://64millionartists.com/about/~83: Joel Monk and the episode of this podcast where I interview Joel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching~84: The original 5-part Train Series of articles, in this order: https://linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-1-stories-robbie-swale/, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-2-change-robbie-swale/, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-3-time-alone-robbie-swale/, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-4-creativity-robbie-swale/, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-5-habits-robbie-swale/~90: The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks~92: My article about time management, where I speak about some of Gay Hendricks’ insights: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/15-ways-transform-your-relationship-time-get-more-done-robbie-swale/~93: My article about the most important reasons to hire a coach, if you are a coach: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/6-reasons-why-hiring-a-coach-is-the-most-important-thing-for-you-to-do-if-you-want-a-successful-coaching-business~94: Jordan Hall on Rebel Wisdom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j3cCrpXERg

These are strange times to be alive, and that includes being alive and working as a coach.When I heard that Katie Harvey, who has racked up over 14,000 hours of coaching and 13 years of supporting other coaches, was putting together her thoughts on how to coach during a time like this, I invited her back on the podcast straight away.In this episode, Katie and I speak about the various ways that our coaching and our practices have changed or been affected by the coronavirus outbreak, and give some advice and suggestions to other coaches for how to survive and even thrive amidst the uncertainty: as individuals, in our coaching practices, and as an industry.In particular, we talk about:- How, more than perhaps ever before, coaches have a shared context with their clients, and the implications of this for our work.- How to manage the start of a coaching conversation, the client’s agenda and the need to address the greater context.- How to deal with technological problems when coaching online.- The implications for coaches as self-employed entrepreneurs, and in particular the importance of questioning our assumptions around what this will mean for our businesses.And we finish with a conversation about the opportunity that the current situation presents for coaches individually, and for the coaching industry as a whole. As Katie says, ‘The opportunity for coaching here is absolutely huge: it’s up to every one of us to take the opportunity to help our profession grow in whatever way lights your fire.‘For more information about Katie, email her at katie@katieharveycoaching.co.uk.For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~6: The preview of my book, which I have shared in case it may help you or someone you know in these times of uncertainty: The Power To Choose Preview - https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com/writing/2020/3/23/why-am-i-sharing-parts-of-my-forthcoming-book-the-power-to-choose~6: The latest articles in my blog: Things Get Broken by the Dark Times. But Things Get Made In Those Times, Too - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/things-get-broken-dark-times-made-those-too-robbie-swale/; Now Is The Time To Focus On Stability And Order: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/now-time-focus-stability-order-robbie-swale/; and What Did You Do During the Coronavirus Pandemic: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-did-you-do-during-coronavirus-pandemic-robbie-swale/~6: The offer of coaching from myself and some trusted colleagues: https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com/coaching-for-uncertain-times~7: Katie’s document for coaches, which inspired this episode: Coaching In These Unprecedented Times: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5d286f97132cd000011e67f4/t/5e834324602f5702ab67febb/1585660709398/KHC_Coaching_Unprecendented_Times.pdf~15: Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps by Jennifer Garvey Berger - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07NWWRXC5/~46: Rich Litvin - http://www.richlitvin.com/~48: BetterUp - https://www.betterup.com/~51: My 12-Minute Articles - you can read the latest ones on my LinkedIn, here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/ and read a little about the process here: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/power-commitment-robbie-swale/. The ones I have written about the coronavirus outbreak are linked to here: https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com.~52: Mike Toller - http://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/~55: aim-you - https://www.aim-you.com/volunteers1~58: The offer me and two colleagues made: Coaching for Uncertain Times - https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com/coaching-for-uncertain-times~60: Kubler-Ross Change Curve - https://www.cleverism.com/understanding-kubler-ross-change-curve/

Marianne Craig is a master coach and the co-founder of Firework Coaching Company, home of the renowned and proven Firework framework for helping people change career. From a young age, Marianne realised the value of questioning everything, but that only started to become her profession in the midst of what Marianne calls a fulfillment crisis. She was listening to BBC Woman’s Hour in 1999 when she heard a coach speaking. By the end of the programme she was already calling the helpline: she knew it was what she wanted to do for a living.Since then, she has racked up thousands of hours of coaching, founding Firework in 2003, becoming an ICF accredited Master Coach in 2005 and forming many other collaborations including Mirus Coaching for Social Change, Mentor Coaches International and a new project providing pro bono coaching to Extinction Rebellion activists.With 25 years' experience as a business owner, coach and consultant she works with people who are at a life or career crossroads. Her specialism is supporting clients to find meaningful and fulfilling work.In this episode, we talk about:- How, as a working class little girl on a council estate near Glasgow, she first learned about her sense of agency in the world.- How she created the renowned Firework Career Coaching Framework, started Firework Coaching Company and later sold it.- Why she has never got bored of her work with people changing careers.- What she thinks makes a great website for a coach (as one of the first people to have a coaching website) and how to launch it.- How she tried every kind of marketing in existence and what she learned from that experimentation (and what she recommends you do so you don’t have to experiment with everything).Plus, starting from Marianne’s bugbears about the coaching industry, we get into a fascinating conversation about the morals and ethics of coaching, and ask questions like, is the end is near for ‘the client’s agenda’ and ‘where were the coaches when the banks went down’?For more information about Marianne, visit: https://www.coachlifeandcareer.com/ or http://www.mentor-coach.com/For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~4: James Bianco and the Coach’s Journey episode with James: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-5-james-bianco-beware-your-simple-stories-about-coaching-success~5: Laura Berman Fortgang: https://laurabermanfortgang.com/~10: Coach U: https://www.coachu.com/~30 and ~37: Firework: https://www.fireworkcoaching.com/~38: Kate Edmunds: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/kate-edmonds-5aa25516~39: CTI: https://coactive.com/~40: Careershifters: http://www.careershifters.org/~40: My temping colleague, Amy, and her awesome vintage dress company, Clarence and Alabama: https://www.clarenceandalabama.co.uk/~41: Richard Alderson: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/richardalderson~54: Marianne’s ebook, So You Want To Become A Coach - A Guide to Training and Skills for Life and Business Coaching: http://www.mentor-coach.com/become_a_life_coach.htm~55: The ICF (International Coaching Federation) and their levels of credential, ACC, PCC and MCC: https://www.coachfederation.org.uk/credentialing/credential_path~56: Academy of Coaching Supervision: https://coachingsupervisionacademy.com/~58: ICF International events: https://coachfederation.org/events/icf-converge-2019~82: Sir John Whitmore and his book Coaching For Performance: https://www.performanceconsultants.com/coaching-for-performance-book~82: Association for Coaching: https://www.associationforcoaching.com/~90: Climate Change Coaches: https://www.climatechangecoaches.com/~93: Mirus Coaching for Social Change and Alma Neville~94: Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/~110: Exeter Street Hall, the new community centre where Marianne is a trustee: https://exeterstreethall.org/

His determination and attitude took Barry Ennis from runner to leader of senior management teams and multimillion-pound projects in a television career that involved a BAFTA-winning show, seven series of Who Wants To Be A Millionnaire? and… Beyonce! But when, in a moment of struggle, he took himself through a self-coaching exercise, he realised that his work in television didn’t speak to the values and passions that were at his core. He set out to find something different, and knew he had found it when - part way through training as a coach - some transformational work with a fellow student lit a fire in him.Since then, he has followed that fire to the sense of wonder he gets from the right learning, relationships which have enabled his business to thrive, and his new business, The Wake Up Method, providing organisations with a proven way to motivate, inspire, train and retain the next generation of managers and leaders.In this episode, we talk about:What he learnt from building his first business, The Guerilla Experience, (with business partner Teresa Klasener,) from their first event, to working in organisations, to what brought that company to an end.How he created his first corporate coaching offer during a call with a potential client.Why he says he runs a business, rather than works as a coach, and why he finds the term coaching unhelpful at times.The dangers of social media and how he uses it.Plus, Barry talks beautifully about his upbringing and where the stories that have supported his business have come from, including how the distinction between ‘I have a place’ and ‘Know your place’ has made all the difference for him, leaving him in power and not hopelessness.For more information about Barry, visit: www.TheWakeUpMethod.com, @TheWakeUpMethod on instagram or ​https://www.linkedin.com/company/thewakeupmethodFor information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~16: Barefoot Coaching - https://www.barefootcoaching.co.uk/~16: Kim Morgan - https://www.barefootcoaching.co.uk/about-us/kim-morgan~20: Transactional Analysis - https://www.itaaworld.org/~31: Giles Barrow - https://gilesbarrow.com/~44: Mariana Ipkendanz - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariana-ipkendanz-acc-125a70143/~48: International Coach Federation/ICF - https://www.coachfederation.org.uk/~69: Teresa Klasener - https://www.linkedin.com/in/teresaklasener/~78: BetterUp - http://www.betterup.com~82: The Berne Institute - https://theberne.com/~87: The podcast episode where I spoke to the guest, Joel Monk, about the neuroscience of goal setting was this one: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching In it, we refer back to this episode of the Coaches Rising Podcast with Richard Boyatzis: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/how-to-access-optimum-growth-states-in-coaching/~95: NABS – https://nabs.org.uk/~97: Kate Rees - https://www.katereescoaching.com/~101: Fiverr - https://www.fiverr.com/~103: Barry’s Brag Alert post on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/barry-ennis-coach_wakeup-coaching-coachofthemonth-activity-6630457599294783488-Rrly~109: Michael Neill - https://www.michaelneill.org/~116: Abraham Maslow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Maslow~119: Soil, Soul, Society by Satish Kumar~120: Ken Wilber - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber

This is a different kind of podcast episode. Instead of interviewing a guest, in this episode I (Robbie Swale) share the content of four videos I have previously made about coaching, bringing much of my thinking and body of work around coaching together in one place. But it’s not just the videos - I listen back to each one (mostly I had never listened back before!) and pull out particularly important thoughts and ideas, and share the things that have changed or developed in my thinking since the videos were originally recorded.In here is LOADS of insight that I’ve gleaned from many great coaches and teachers, and others who have influenced my work.In particular, I talk about:- Why I work with clients over a period of time not a number of sessions.- How I structure and think about my first conversation with a potential client.- Marketing for coaches: the importance of connecting, sharing yourself and doing great work.- How my fees have evolved over my time as a coach (in pretty granular detail).These are some of the most important things for coaches to think about, and is some of the most condensed thinking I have shared on the subjects. In and between the videos, I touch on loads of the ways I work as a coach, including: comparing the price of ‘per session’ with the price of a period of time; my rule for making networking events manageable; the importance of leadership as a coach; why it’s important to give people the chance to know you before they meet you; and how it’s vital to do the sums when it comes to your coaching business.For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.To watch the videos in their original form (and various other coaching videos), visit my YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5aalWAQqFp6yTk2jghSpeQMusic by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people I mentioned (that you might be interested in):~5: Sam Chillcott – https://www.samchillcott.com/~8: Joel Monk (http://joel-monk.com/) and the podcast episode where I interviewed him: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching~27: Phil Bolton (http://www.phil-bolton.com/), The Coaching School (http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk) and the podcast episode where I interviewed him: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders~27: Rich Litvin and The Prosperous Coach: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/~28: Rich Litvin’s video – How To Coach Someone You Don’t Know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoaM2PwzHRQ~30: Jamie Smart: https://www.jamiesmart.com/~31: Giovanna Capozza: https://giovannacapozza.com/~35: Rich Litvin’s video, The Art of the Proposal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjwzfLIA8w0~43: Rich Litvin’s blog - How I Create a Powerful End to a Coaching Engagement: https://richlitvin.com/powerful-end-coaching-agreement/~63: My sister, Ro, and her website: http://l-r-o.com/~66: My brother, Ewan and his article about healing our allergies to marketing: https://www.ewantownhead.com/how-to-heal-our-allergies-to-marketing/~70: My article, Dancing with Resistance: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dancing-resistance-lesson-from-my-first-year-coach-robbie-swale/~71: My 12-minute articles, which you can browse here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/~81: The now-resting Coaching School: http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk~82: Mike Toller: http://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/~84: The 90 Day Money Game: https://richlitvin.com/the-90-day-money-game/~90: The group coaching call I recorded, where you can watch me working with three coaches at once: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFBvAVfZrKQ

Kristen Kosinski is a coach, consultant and founder who empowers her clients to achieve the impossible, lead fearlessly, inspire others and manifest their dreams. Midway through a career as a successful executive in Hollywood, Kristen sat down with a woman on the recommendation of a friend. That woman was Mona Miller, the late coach, author and teacher, and over the next 12 years Mona and Kristen worked together as Kristen’s career and relationships were transformed. As part of that work, she founded The Samburu Project, a non-profit organisation which has brought clean drinking water to over 100,000 people in Africa.Then, in 2016, after leaving The Samburu Project, she set off to do the work that she had learned from Mona, training as a coach and developing a business through a commitment to courage and doing her own deep work… among many other things.In this episode, we talk about:- How two hours with Mona Miller - the first time she felt all her messiness had been truly seen, in the most extraordinarily loving way - transformed her.- How Kristen came to believe that we live in a world where you can literally live your dreams, and why so many are afraid to even speak about their dreams, let alone follow them.- How visiting her father after his terminal cancer diagnosis gave her permission to leave behind the dream she had had as a child and strike out on a new path- The writing practice she uses to deal with the pain of getting ‘No’s.Plus, in the final part of the call, Kristen and I get into detail exploring, together, some of the questions about how to structure coaching engagements, what the optimal length is and whether to offer one-off conversations to potential clients.For more information about Kristen, visit her website: https://kristenkosinski.com/For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):First things first, mentioned throughout the call, Mona Miller: http://www.monamiller.com/~9: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/~23: The non-profit organisation Kristen founded, The Samburu Project: https://thesamburuproject.org/~35: Rich Litvin’s not-currently-offered Prosperous Coach Salon~46: iPEC/the Institute for Professional Excellence in Coaching: https://www.ipeccoaching.co.uk/~46: Coach U: http://www.coachinc.com/CoachU/~50: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/~52: Katie Harvey and the episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast with her as the guest: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach~59: Invisible Warfare by Mona Miller: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Invisible-Warfare-Mona-Miller/dp/0978665201~77: The Artist’s Way and Julia Cameron: https://juliacameronlive.com/the-artists-way/~82: Marianne Williamson: https://marianne.com/~82: A Course in Miracles by Dr Helen Schucman: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0018A01L4~82: An example of Marianne Williamson’s work on A Course in Miracles: https://marianne.com/365-days-of-a-course-in-miracles/

Joel Monk is a coach whose work transforms leaders beyond the limits of conventional success, and the Co-Founder of Coaches Rising, a community of over 19,000 coaches dedicated to having the biggest impact they can. Working as a community artist - and after a difficult period in his life - he moved into a Bhuddist house. There he met a coach, his soul spoke to him and he set off on a journey which has led him to coaching bank CEOs, TV personalities and… well… me!Alongside that, Joel and his Co-Founder Laurens Van Aarle created Coaches Rising, a pioneering training organisation bringing together thought-leaders from across the world and empowering coaches to create ever-better results. Coaches Rising brings together tens of thousands of coaches, has an amazing podcast (hosted by Joel), and runs some of the best (and best value) coach trainings available.All this means that Joel has spent time with many (if not most) of the most forward-thinking people in the world of coaching, which gives him perspectives on everything from enrolling clients to myriad coaching techniques to the newest and most advanced ideas at the cutting edge of what makes great coaching.In this episode, we talk about:- How problem solving and goal-setting can be traps that coaches fall into and what to do instead.- How he ended up living out of his jar of loose change and how being broke helped him change his story about money.- The roles serendipity and a tantric sex retreat played in him getting his most rewarding coaching gig ever.- His three pieces of advice for those new to coaching, and why he has faith that sincerity, dedication to the craft and putting the time in can make amazing things possible in anyone’s life.Plus, we have a conversation about the role coaching has to play in the strange, complex and sometimes-unsettling modern world.For more information about Joel, visit his website: http://joel-monk.com/ or Coaches Rising: https://www.coachesrising.com/For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~8: Robbie’s colleague Jo Hunter’s TEDx Talk about Creativity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eun2mJMs1DM and her everyday creativity company, 64 Million Artists: https://64millionartists.com/~12: Rivca Rubin: http://www.rivcarubin.com/~13: Fred Kofman (https://fredkofman.org/), Integral Naked and Ken Wilber (https://integrallife.com/who-is-ken-wilber/)~20: Robbie’s Twelve-Minute Writing Practice. You can browse all the pieces here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/ Or this one gives a description of the practice and its origins: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/creativity-fear-freedom-robbie-swale/~20: Steven Pressfield and The War of Art: (https://stevenpressfield.com/)~25: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/~30: THNK (School of Creative Leadership): https://www.thnk.org/~35: Tim Ferriss: https://tim.blog/~37: Jamie Wheal and his book, Stealing Fire: https://www.flowgenomeproject.com/team/jamie-wheal~37: The mouse study Robbie mentions (thanks Peter): https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2018/05/scientists-find-fear-courage-switches-in-brain.html~54: Laurens Van Aarle (https://www.coachesrising.com/about/), Ewan Townhead (https://www.ewantownhead.com/) & Coaches Rising (https://www.coachesrising.com)~55: Coaches Rising Podcast: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/~56: The two Coaches Rising programmes I have been on: Become a Transformative Presence (https://www.coachesrising.com/becomeatransformativepresence/) & The Art of Developmental Coaching (https://www.coachesrising.com/artofdevelopmentalcoaching/)~57: Coaches Rising Podcast with Richard Boyatzis about the neuroscience of goal setting: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/how-to-access-optimum-growth-states-in-coaching/~66: Peter Levine on polyvagal theory - this is the video that I watched, which I mention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiIm9NTC2JU. You might want to start from the first part of the series, though!~67: Jim Dethmer: https://conscious.is/team/jim-dethmer~68: Doug Silsbee and Presence-Based Coaching: https://presencebasedcoaching.com/~69: Steve March and Aletheia Coaching: https://integralunfoldment.com/~70: Circling: https://www.circlingeurope.com/~72: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/~72: Thomas Hübl: https://thomashuebl.com/~73: Jennifer Garvey Berger and her book, Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps: https://www.cultivatingleadership.co.nz/our-team/jennifer-garvey-berger~77: Steven Pinker: https://stevenpinker.com/publications/enlightenment-now-case-reason-science-humanism-and-progress~78: Daniel Schmachtenberger, Jordan Hall, Jamie Wheal (again), Rebel Wisdom, A good introduction to these thinkers is via the Rebel Wisdom YouTube Channel website (https://www.rebelwisdom.co.uk/) or YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFQ6Gptuq-sLflbJ4YY3Umw~78: Thomas Hübl (again), Circling (again).~79: Dave Snowden: https://cognitive-edge.com/. His framework, Cynefin, gives incredibly useful distinctions between complicated and complex. This is a great introductory video to Cynefin, with Jennifer Garvey Berger: https://conversational-leadership.net/video/video-an-introduction-to-cynefin/~81: Martin Heidegger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heidegger~82: Guy Sengstock: https://guysengstock.wordpress.com/~84: Margaret Wheatley - here’s Joel’s conversation with Margaret Wheatley on the Coaches Rising podcast: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/coaching-from-deep-service-in-times-of-collapse/~95: Jim Dethmer: https://conscious.is/team/jim-dethmer~100: THNK (again): https://www.thnk.org/~102: Joel’s website. He hasn’t had one for most of the time I’ve known him. http://joel-monk.com/~106: Angela Duckworth: https://angeladuckworth.com/~111: Minor Arias and The Coach’s Journey Podcast Episode #03, with him, which I mention: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-3-minor-arias-living-by-design-glz56~111: Rich Litvin (https://richlitvin.com/), Steve Chandler (https://www.stevechandler.com/), Kari Granger (https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/how-to-enrol-clients-and-create-amazing-proposals/)

James Bianco is a leadership and career coach and the founder of 16 Degrees Coaching. He spent 11 years working for the UK Department for International Development, working with ministers and introducing the Lean Start-Up methodology across DFID’s development programmes. Then, a desire to really see the positive impact of his work led him to discover coaching. He hasn’t looked back, clocking up over 2,000 hours of coaching in the first four years of his practice, including running career change webinars for thousands of people.In this episode, we talk about:- How learning the craft of coaching works and how ‘trying hard’ to become a great coach in fact is not the way to become a great coach.- The power of the stories we have about our success: how the simple story he had about successful coaches – that they work only on recommendation – at first empowered him to create a thriving business… and then made him doubt himself.- What he learnt from running coaching calls for over 100 people at a time for career-change experts Careershifters.- Networking: how James used his network to create opportunities, recommendations and referrals, and the importance of dispelling the myths we have about our networks.And listen out for the beautiful - and surprising - answer James gives when I ask him how he filled all the time he had when he left his civil service role to coach full time.www.thecoachsjourney.comFor more information about James, visit his website: https://www.16degreescoaching.co.uk/ or find him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-bianco/For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~10: The Grameen Bank: http://www.grameen.com/introduction/~10: Overseas Development Institute Fellowship Programme: https://www.odi.org/odi-fellowship-scheme~13: Marianne Craig: https://www.coachlifeandcareer.com/~18: Phil Bolton – Read about Phil here: http://phil-bolton.com/ or get to know him by listening to my interview with him in Episode #2: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders~18: The Coaching School: http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk/~22: Jim Dethmer: https://conscious.is/team/jim-dethmer~32: International Coach Federation (ICF) Competencies: https://coachfederation.org/core-competencies~38: Oxford Brooks Certification as a Skills and Performance Coach: https://www.brookes.ac.uk/courses/postgraduate/coaching-and-mentoring-practice/~67: Jennifer Garvey Berger: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-garvey-berger-7b4a264 and her book: Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unlocking-Leadership-Mindtraps-Thrive-Complexity/dp/1503609014~72: Omidyar Network: https://www.omidyar.com/~72: Luminate: https://www.omidyargroup.com/pov/organizations/luminate/~74: Careershifters: http://www.careershifters.org/~75: The Careershifters articles Robbie most regularly shares with clients: https://www.careershifters.org/expert-advice/the-lean-career-change-how-to-reduce-the-risk-and-increase-the-speed-of-your-shift and https://www.careershifters.org/expert-advice/struggling-to-find-your-ideal-work-why-looking-for-your-career-umbrella-will-get-you~96: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/~104: OCHA: https://www.unocha.org/~104: Social Tech Trust: https://socialtechtrust.org/

Catriona Horey is an executive coach based in London and a lead trainer, supervisor and assessor of coaching for the MOE Foundation. She spent the first ten years of her career transforming the performance of nonprofits, social enterprises and leaders in social innovation, but in 2013 a bereavement and a collapsed lung led to her reassessing her priorities, with the message ‘I’m too far away from the joy’ appearing in her mind. That set her off on her journey into coaching, leading to a thriving business today working with leaders in social innovation, high potential professionals and women who want to redefine their priorities.In this episode, we talk about:- How becoming a mother has been fundamental in the way she has developed her business and how it is possible to have it all, but over a lifetime.- The question her coach asked her which made her look at her whole career plan completely differently.- Marketing: why you should choose the marketing strategy that works for YOU, and the marketing distinction that made the difference for Catriona.- What Catriona did to generate 11 clients when her first batch of practice clients wrapped up.- The way Catriona thinks and talks about her purpose in life.Over the course of this podcast, Catriona and I hit SO MANY of the common questions and challenges coaches face, including money, the question of niche, coaching on the phone, networking, connecting and more. And in case we had missed any, make sure to listen to the end for Catriona’s five brilliant tips to shortcut to coaching success!www.thecoachsjourney.com For more information about Catriona, find her on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/catrionahorey or visit her (minimalist) website, which has been ‘coming soon’ ever since I met her, at https://www.withcatriona.com/For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):~2 mins – Future Leaders Trust, now rebranded as Ambition School Leadership: https://www.ambition.org.uk/~4 - Andrea Berkeley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-berkeley-4056673/~15 – Camilla Mendoza: https://camillamendoza.com/~22 –Simon Hampel: https://leadersquest.org/people/simon-hampel~23 – MOE Foundation: https://moefoundation.com/~25 – Culture at Work: http://www.coachingcultureatwork.com/ and Carol Wilson: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/coachingcultureatwork~27 – Natalie Scholey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-scholey/~28 – Tony Phillips: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/tonyjphillips~32 – Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/~33 – Coaches Rising: https://www.coachesrising.com/~33 – CTI + their certification programme: https://coactive.com/~37 - Nicole Berg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolejberg/ and Coaching at Work: https://www.coaching-at-work.com/~42 – International Coaching Federation (ICF): https://coachfederation.org/ and their credentials, ACC and PCC: https://coachfederation.org/icf-credential~44 – Anna Lundberg: https://annaselundberg.com/~45- The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/~48 - My LinkedIn Articles: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/ and the first post I wrote as part of the ’12 minute’/train practice I designed with my coach: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-1-stories-robbie-swale/~64 – Catriona’s LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catrionahorey~66 – Climate Change Coaches and their Coaching Circle: https://www.climatechangecoaches.com/startyourjourney~69 – The Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust, Slimbridge: https://www.wwt.org.uk/wetland-centres/slimbridge~70 – Ramsar Treaty: https://www.ramsar.org/ ~93 – Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/~95 – Darren Robson: https://www.darrenrobson.com/~96 – Ben Dooley: http://bedo.org/~99 – Catriona’s List of Training: Masterful Coaching Mentor Group - Ben Dooley MCC - Completed 2018; Narrative Coach Enhanced Practitioner - WBECS (Dr David Drake) - Qualified 2018; Certified Professional Co-Active Coach (CPCC) - The Coaches Training Institute - Qualified 2015; Associate Certified Coach (ACC) and Member - International Coach Federation - Qualified 2015; Licensed Firework Career Coach - The Firework Coaching Company - Qualified 2015; Organisation & Relationship Systems at Work - CRR Global - Completed 2015; Core Skills Coaching Programme (Education Sector) - Growth Coaching International - Completed 2015; Coaching and the Enneagram - Success Intelligence (Robert Holden) - Completed 2014; MOE Professional Certified Coach - The MOE Foundation - Qualified 2014~102 – Ann Farrell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annfarrell1/~109 – WBECS: https://www.wbecs.com/, London Coaching Group: https://www.londoncoachinggroup.co.uk/~110 – Hub Dot: https://hubdot.com/