

The Coach's Journey - build a coaching business with integrity
Robbie Swale
Coach’s Journey founder Robbie Swale and a team of hosts interview coaches about how they created a successful business and how they create impact for their clients.
Through these conversations, you can learn how each coach came to coaching, grew their coaching practice and found their way to the successful business they have today. Each interview, like each journey, is different. But each is also packed with insights, tips, suggestions and ideas to grow your coaching business and have even greater impact creating change in the lives of your clients. Past guests include life coaches, business coaches, executivecoaches, career coaches, leadership coaches and more. Some are household names; some are coaches you’ve never heard of. All of them share ideas on the key topics for creating a coaching business: money, fees, impact with clients, training and more. About Robbie: Robbie Swale is a leadership coach, podcaster and the author of four books. He has trained with masters in the field of coaching and building coaching businesses, including Rich Litvin, Robert Holden and guests on the podcast like Katie Harvey and Myles Downey. He is the creator of The Coaching Business Flywheel, which attempts to boil down everything he has learned from many years supporting coaches to grow their businesses and interviewing amazing coaches on this podcast, into one simple, actionable model. Subscribe and read more about the podcast, The Coach’s Journey Community and get the free ebook An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel at www.thecoachsjourney.com
Through these conversations, you can learn how each coach came to coaching, grew their coaching practice and found their way to the successful business they have today. Each interview, like each journey, is different. But each is also packed with insights, tips, suggestions and ideas to grow your coaching business and have even greater impact creating change in the lives of your clients. Past guests include life coaches, business coaches, executivecoaches, career coaches, leadership coaches and more. Some are household names; some are coaches you’ve never heard of. All of them share ideas on the key topics for creating a coaching business: money, fees, impact with clients, training and more. About Robbie: Robbie Swale is a leadership coach, podcaster and the author of four books. He has trained with masters in the field of coaching and building coaching businesses, including Rich Litvin, Robert Holden and guests on the podcast like Katie Harvey and Myles Downey. He is the creator of The Coaching Business Flywheel, which attempts to boil down everything he has learned from many years supporting coaches to grow their businesses and interviewing amazing coaches on this podcast, into one simple, actionable model. Subscribe and read more about the podcast, The Coach’s Journey Community and get the free ebook An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel at www.thecoachsjourney.com
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Sep 1, 2022 • 1h 20min
Episode #41: Robert Stephenson – The Scaffolding of Change (and When to Discard It)
Robert Stephenson no longer carries trinkets in his pockets. His need to wear crystals that represent his spirituality has lessened. This, he says, is because he has come to embody the meaning of those items in his very being.This shift has characterised an important period in Robert's life, in which he has departed from his role as director of Animas Centre for Coaching and launched his own coaching business, Fan the Flames Ltd.Robert talks about openly and honestly about why he left Animas and the impact this change has had on him, and he describes how he has truly stepped into his power since his first appearance on The Coach's Journey Podcast in July 2021. Back then, Animas provided a framework – or scaffolding – for Robert's work. So what happened when that scaffolding was no longer present?Our conversation explores Robert's transformation in depth, offering valuable lessons about how to manage change and how to grasp opportunities that arise when our circumstances change.Robert explains how he made decisions led by intuition, discovered through play, or inspired by dreams, as he took ownership of his future while embracing his "nowness". In this episode, we talk about:Recognising change in ourselvesWhat are the stabilisers we use in our lives? And can we take them off?Embracing endings and managing changeListening to our bodies and accessing our deeper knowledgeHow to move "from loss to legacy"Robert also talks about the courage it takes to remove the masks we wear in our lives and careers, and the new ways people relate to us when we show up as ourselves.To learn more about Robert, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-stephenson-2491a21/ or listen to his first appearance on the podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Robert’s previous appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change- The Hero's Journey, by Joseph Campbell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero's_Journey_(book) - Founder of Animas Nick Bolton https://www.animascoaching.com/about-animas/our-team/nick-bolton/ - Johan van Bavel – https://www.linkedin.com/in/johan-van-bavel-mcc-4826b34/ - Claire Mitchell https://claire.simplero.com/- Coaching Inside and Out https://coachinginsideandout.org.uk/ - Jenny Bird https://www.coachsupervisor.co.uk/ - Todd Roache https://www.toddroache.com/- Natasha Harris https://mindbodysoulenergy.co.uk/ - Claire Dale https://www.companiesinmotion.com/claire-dale- Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/ - Poem by Ingrid Goff Madoff - https://www.facebook.com/hollieholdenlove/photos/what-do-you-do-when-you-are-stuck-do-you-know-to-go-inside-to-ask-for-inner-guid/1417314465052422/- Isik Tlabar https://www.isiktlabar.com/ - Kate Lander https://www.ivyhouse.co.uk/team/kate-lander/- Extraordinary, by Elke Edwards https://www.ivyhouse.co.uk/thebook/- Three Principles https://changeinaction.com/3-principles-based-coaching/- Elaine Rémy https://viesjamaicanrumcakes.co.uk/coaching-cake/ - Andy Cahill's podcast, The Wonder Dome https://mindfulcreative.coach/the-wonder-dome- Information about Robert’s group programme https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robert-stephenson-2491a21_fantheflamescoaching-fantheflamesgroupciaching-activity-6961262939651637248-9gQS?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

Aug 4, 2022 • 2h 13min
Episode #40: Lucy Ball – How to Be What You Teach
When Lucy Ball found herself throwing golf balls into buckets at Deloitte in the mid-90s, she became caught up in the first sparks of the corporate coaching boom that would sweep through countless industries in the decades that followed.In our conversation, she describes how the people she met during that time – such as GROW-model creator Sir John Whitmore – offered a new leadership pathway, which involved a departure from dictative models and allowed coachees to lead their own development.While Lucy was director of the international leadership consultancy, Ideas Unlimited, she began to transition into high-performance coaching. She describes how, by facing fears of going it alone without backup and facilitating teams of “heavy hitting people”, she found a sense of power and influence while shaking off her inner critic and her need to be rescued.A self-described “magpie" in her twenties, Lucy now focuses her attention on Lucy Ball Consulting, where she applies her skills as an accredited Master Coach and Gestalt practitioner while working with clients such as NatWest, PepsiCo, HSBC, UK Sport, M&C Saatchi Group, BUPA and the NHS.Lucy is training to be a psychotherapist and finding ways to channel her work more altruistically, with people who might not have access to sizeable training budgets. She is also finding agency and empowerment through her passionate climate activism. In this episode, we talk about:How to get comfortable talking about being a coachThe benefits and pitfalls of coaching accreditation programmesKnowing when to partner up and the power of taking people with youWhat happens when you choose a modality and "go deep"Going "back to the source" of counselling and psychotherapyPairs coaching and the new lens it can offer leadersWe also talk about finding community and the joy that can be unlocked when people work together on big problems.To learn more about Lucy, visit https://www.lucyballconsulting.comFor information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- The Inner Game of Tennis by Timothy Gallwey https://theinnergame.com/inner-game-books/the-inner-game-of-tennis/ - David Hemery https://www.performanceconsultants.com/david-hemery - Sir John Whitmore's GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model - Myles Downey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey - Tricia Bey https://www.dundee.ac.uk/people/tricia-bey - Myers Briggs training https://eu.themyersbriggs.com/en/Training/MBTI-training - The Coaching Academy https://www.the-coaching-academy.com/ - APECS https://www.apecs.org/- Jean Balfour https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-36-jean-balfour- Ideas Unlimited http://www.ideasunlimited.com/ - Dick Robertson http://www.ideasunlimited.com/portfolio-item/dick-robertson/- Clore Leadership https://www.cloreleadership.org/- Jo Hunter, CEO and co-founder of 64 Million Artists https://64millionartists.com/team/jo-hunter/ - Gestalt Cycle of Experience http://www.clevelandconsultinggroup.com/articles/gestalt-cycle-of-experience.php- Mike Toller https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller- The Gestalt Centre https://gestaltcentre.org.uk/- WPF Therapy https://wpf.org.uk/- The Cape Cod Model https://www.gisc.org/introduction-to-the-cape-cod-model- Michael Jacobs, texts on counselling and psychotherapy https://www.karnacbooks.com/Author.asp?AID=5130- Executive Pairs https://www.executivepairs.com/- The Amazing Development of Men – Expanded Second Edition https://www.alisonarmstrong.com/products/amazing2ndedition.html - Harthill Leadership Development Framework https://www.harthill.co.uk/leadership-development-framework - Terri O'Fallon https://www.terriofallon.com/

Jul 7, 2022 • 2h 9min
Episode #39: John Monks – Closing the Circle and Becoming Closer Apart
"Working online is not the future; it's today."These words from John Monks, the co-founder of facilitation and coaching practice Curve, will resonate powerfully with many listeners of episode #39 of The Coach’s Journey Podcast who, like John, have been bringing people together in an era of change.John, who along with Lizzie Shupak wrote Closer Apart, the definitive guide to running online workshops, wants the world to understand the problem-solving power of online facilitation, and to believe anything is possible in that setting.John’s career has been driven by one question: how do people work together?That question led to the foundation of Curve, and an ambition to work with the most senior people in the largest organisations in the world.In our conversation, he describes how he and his co-founders achieved that ambition while still showing up as themselves, in order to truly connect with the people they encounter in their workshops. In this episode, we talk about:How to read the room when you're working onlineThe energy journey that workshop participants make, and how to manage itHow to ensure equal share of voice and unlock successful outcomes in workshopsThe power of team coaching to unlock blockages in communicationHow leaders can generate the feelings they need in order to lead effectivelyWe also talk about how to bring unusual ideas into large-scale organisations with confidence and clarity.To learn more about John, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmonkscurve/ For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Robbie’s new book, How to Keep Going When You Want to Give Up: https://geni.us/justdoit - The Coach’s Journey episode #28 with Inga Umblija https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-28-inga-umblija-phil-bolton-abundance-formula - The Coach’s Journey episode #32 with Mike Toller https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller - The Coach’s Journey episode #6 with Joel Monk https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching - Robbie's article about Kronos and Kairos https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/sometimes-moment-arrives-when-does-question-we-ready-robbie-swale/ - THNK School of Creative Leadership https://www.thnk.org/ - PA Consulting https://www.paconsulting.com/ - The Academy of Executive Coaching https://www.aoec.com/ - Curve https://www.curve.cc/ - Peter Mandeno https://www.thnk.org/community/people/peter-mandeno/ - Lizzie Shupak https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizzieshupak - Closer Apart https://www.closerapartbook.com/ - Kate Carruth https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-carruth-7399bb17a/- Social Physics by Alex Pentland https://www.blinkist.com/en/books/social-physics-en- The Coach’s Journey episode #34 with Anne Hathaway https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-34-anne-hathaway - The Coach’s Journey episode #31 with Miles Downey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey- John's study about how leaders feel https://hbr.org/2021/08/leaders-dont-be-afraid-to-talk-about-your-fears-and-anxieties- Robbie's article entitled I Am What I Am https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/i-am-what-robbie-swale/- John’s facilitation belt: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/s/belt-picture.jpeg and https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/s/belt-picture-2.jpeg

Jun 4, 2022 • 1h 43min
Episode #38: Hell Yes! – An interview with Robbie on The Coach's Compass
Last year I was totally delighted to appear on a podcast called The Coach's Compass, giving me an opportunity to dive deep into all things coaching with host Clark Luby.In the episode, Clark - a listener to The Coach’s Journey - turns my favourite starter question back on me by asking me to recall when I first came across coaching, and that takes me back to a crucial juncture in my life and career.From there, we talk through the support structures and containers that helped me through early coaching challenges such as finding clients and talking about money, and I offer up some practical tools that can help you to establish the kind of coach you really want to be, factoring in the styles of coaching you admire and personalities you aspire to emulate.We also explore the importance of Rich Litvin's work to the evolution of coaching and to my own practice, and I share one of the exercises he taught me that led me to do some of my best work.In this episode, we talk about:The shift that happens after your first attempt at being an adultMaking the process of your work something that you really enjoyBeing a player in the game of your businessThe point at which coaching businesses start to carry themselves forwardHow to stay authentic while taking influence from other coachesWhy I think it's okay to steal from people*We also talk about the best times to break the rules of coaching, or the rules of anything for that matter!To hear other episodes of the Coach’s Compass Podcast, visit https://thecoachscompass.libsyn.com/For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com, and to buy my book, click here.Join the WBECS Free Pre-Summit: https://share.coaching.com/6d3qN2Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Thanks in particular to Alex McIntyre, Alex Swallow, Joey Owen, Ken Broeren, Neil Mackinnon and Ruth Saville for their ongoing support.*In very specific situationsThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Coaches Rising https://www.coachesrising.com/ - Ewan Townhead https://www.ewantownhead.com/coaching/ - Waking Up The Workplace http://www.wakinguptheworkplace.com/ - Brett Thomas https://www.linkedin.com/in/consciousbusinesscoach/ - The Prosperous Coach by Steve Chandler and Rich Litvin https://www.amazon.ca/Prosperous-Coach-Increase-Income-Clients/ - Rich Litvin with Simon Crowe on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB80UWOW8NM - John Mackey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mackey_(businessman) - David Allen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Allen_(author) - Miles Downey episode on The Coach's Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey - Tony Robbins, I Am Not Your Guru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUHMZf3qwsQ - Brené Brown on perfectionism https://www.shinecoachingandconsulting.com/post/recovering-perfectionist-aspiring-good-enoughist - Gay Hendricks and the zone of genius https://www.thejoyofbusiness.co.uk/how/how-to-find-your-zone-of-genius/ - The Heart of Laser Focused Coaching by Marion Franklin https://www.amazon.ca/HeART-Laser-Focused-Coaching-Revolutionary-Masterful/ - Chris Joseph on episode #19 of The Coach's Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-19-chris-joseph - Fred Kofman https://www.fredkofman.org/sobre-fred-kofman-ing.php - Conscious Business by Fred Kofman https://www.amazon.ca/Conscious-Business-Build-through-Values/ - BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/ - Warren Buffett's "2 List" strategy https://jamesclear.com/buffett-focus - Joel Monk https://www.thnk.org/community/people/joel-monk/ - Phil Goddard, The Coaching Life episode #69 https://www.philg.com/CoachingLifePodcast/?post=069-phil-goddard - The Social Dilemma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaaC57tcci0

May 12, 2022 • 1h 10min
Episode #37: How to Plant Seeds for the Long Term – An Interview with Robbie on the First 10 Podcast
Conor McCarthy is the host of the First 10 Podcast, where he interviews business builders on their first 10 customers, sparking valuable conversations about how fledgling businesses grow their first roots.By inviting me onto the podcast, Conor offered me the chance to reflect on how my coaching practice began and how it evolved as a business, from my very first tentative steps through to where I am today.In the interview I talk about my own false starts and training pathways, and describe the mountain of resistance I had to overcome in order to make connections with the world as a new coach.Conor is an expert in exploring the subject of how freelancers, bootstrappers and founders start to grow their businesses, and he helped me to retrace my steps while coaxing out key insights from my journey into coaching.In this episode, we talk about:How to find your first clients by borrowing successful pitches from othersEarning trust with a wider audienceExperimenting with coaching formats in a low-risk wayFeeling resistance and using it as a signpost for your next stepsHow to use honesty to plant seeds for the long termWe also talk about pricing and what it means to get comfortable talking about money.For more information about Conor, visit https://www.conormccarthy.me/ and to hear other episodes of the First 10 Podcast visit https://www.conormccarthy.me/podcastFor information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com, and to buy my book, click here.Join the WBECS Free Pre-Summit: https://share.coaching.com/6d3qN2Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/communityThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- The Interview Valet Top 20 Great Podcasts for Coaches (including this show!): https://interviewvalet.com/20-great-podcasts-for-coaches/ - Akimbo https://www.akimbo.com/- Phil Bolton, co-founder of The Coaching School https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders - The War of Art by Steven Pressfield https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/- Coaches Rising https://www.coachesrising.com/- Carolyn Freyer-Jones https://carolynfreyerjones.com/- The initial Facebook post I shared about coaching. https://thecoachsjourney.com/s/Initial-Facebook-Post-About-Coaching-Robbie-Swale.jpg

Apr 7, 2022 • 2h 7min
Episode #36: Jean Balfour – From Spectacular Failure to Becoming a Master Certified Coach
To use her own words, Jean Balfour "spectacularly failed" the assessment of the Ashridge Accredited Coach Training programme.But this setback fuelled a massive growth journey that led Jean to become clearer about who she is as a person and set her on a path to becoming a Master Certified Coach (MCC).In this episode of The Coach's Journey Podcast, Jean traces the steps of her career from training as a teacher, to developing leaders for local government, the National Health Service and investment banks, to the work she does now as programme director of Bailey Balfour’s ICF Accredited Coach Training Programme.She reveals key experiences from her life and work that influenced the way she designed the coach training programme, including the vital learning she took from failing her Ashridge assessment.This episode gives you the chance to hear a highly accomplished, vastly experienced educator, leadership developer and coach trainer share her views on the secrets to effective coaching and the most pressing challenges facing the industry.In this episode, we talk about:The power of cultivating a journaling practiceWhat Jean learned from becoming an ICF Master Certified Coach and whether credentials for coaches really matterLooking inwards in order to growMoving coaching out of the West and creating global conversationsThe step-by-step process Jean uses with clients, sponsors and stakeholders when coaching for organisationsJean also reflects on what it took to successfully move her coaching practice from the United Kingdom to Singapore, and offers perspectives on how the coronavirus pandemic has shaped the future of coaching.For more information about Jean, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanbalfour/ or her company’s website www.baileybalfour.com.For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com, and to buy my book, click here.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/communityThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Barry Ennis Funeral Notice: https://funeral-notices.co.uk/notice/ennis/5020856 and Episode #9 where he was the guest: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-9-barry-ennis-follow-the-fire - Make a donation to MIND: https://www.mind.org.uk/donate/ - Lara Quie https://www.linkedin.com/in/laraquie/- ICF Team Coaching Competencies https://coachingfederation.org/team-coaching-competencies - Anne Hathaway on The Coach's Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-34-anne-hathaway - Nancy Kline https://www.timetothink.com/nancy-kline/ - The Thinking Environment https://www.timetothink.com/thinking-environment/ - Raquel Ark on The Coach's Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-33-raquel-ark - Time To Think by Nancy Kline https://www.timetothink.com/books/time-to-think/ - The ICF definition of coaching https://coachingfederation.org/about - Myles Downey on The Coach's Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey - Action Learning https://www.actionlearningcentre.com/about-action-learning- Ashridge qualifications https://www.hult.edu/ashridge/qualifications/ - The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron https://juliacameronlive.com/books-by-julia/ - Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/about-robert/ - Julia Cameron's book about writing and prayer https://juliacameronlive.com/books-by-julia/seeking-wisdom-a-spiritual-path-to-creative-connection/ - The ladder of inference https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newTMC_91.htm#:~:text=The%20Ladder%20of%20Inference%20describes,are%20shown%20in%20figure%201 - Coaching for Performance by John Whitmore https://www.performanceconsultants.com/coaching-for-performance-book - The Inner Game of Tennis https://theinnergame.com/inner-game-books/the-inner-game-of-tennis/ - Mike Toller on The Coach's Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller - Bounce by Matthew Syed https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/resource/bounce-the-myth-of-talent-and-the-power-of-practice/ - BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/en-gb/ - Ezra https://www.helloezra.com/ - ICF core competencies https://coachingfederation.org/core-competencies - The Happiness Trap by Russ Harris https://thehappinesstrap.com/ - Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) https://www.goodtherapy.org/learn-about-therapy/types/acceptance-commitment-therapy - ACT for Beginners https://psychwire.com/harris/act-beginners

Mar 3, 2022 • 1h 35min
Episode #35: Robbie on The 12-Minute Method and the Gobsmacking Experience of Creating Something Worth Sharing
At the end of last year I published a book called How to Start When You're Stuck, and since then I have found myself seeing everything through the frame the book presents.My book is about overcoming resistance, procrastination and fear through something I call 'The 12-Minute Method', and in this episode of The Coach's Journey Podcast I bring this idea into focus.I go back to the very start of my journey as a writer, to when I would find myself paralysed with my finger hovering over the 'post' button.You'll hear me describe five key principles for building your own 12-minute method and how maintaining a practice, forming habits, and committing to those things over time can lead to magical outcomes.Having applied the 12-Minute Method while I created it, I can now advise people how to build a 12-minute practice for their coaching business, and that is covered here, along with a lot of what I've learned about the Prosperous Coach approach and the developed thinking I've done around that.In this episode, I talk about:How to combine the 12-minute method with the Prosperous Coach to grow your coaching businessWhat I would recommend if I had to choose a 12-minute practice for coaches who want to grow their businessHow to nurture an authenticity practice that touches every aspect of your workSome specific 12-minute practices that you might choose, including the one I recommend most of allWhat represents real success, and how to identify it for yourselfI also talk about the impact that not starting something that you want to do can have on your life, and how that can be a vital driving factor in starting when you are stuck.Ultimately, this episode is about exploring who we want to become, how we become what we practise, and how we are always practising something.For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com, and to buy his book, click here.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/communityThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Mastering your personal brand https://www.robbieswale.com/mastering-your-personal-brand - Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/ - How to Start When You’re Stuck https://www.amazon.co.uk/Start-business-creative-project-Youre/dp/1915266009 - 100 Podcasts Challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge - Episode #6 with Joel Monk https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching - Marshall Ganz's three-stage storytelling technique https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/30760283/Public-Narrative-Worksheet-Fall-2013-.pdf - My piece, A Poem About Life https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/poem-life-robbie-swale/ - My piece on How Possibility and Optimism Can Change the World https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2016/11/8/how-possibility-and-optimism-can-change-the-world - 12-minute blog https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/ - Coaching during coronavirus, with Katie Harvey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/coaching-during-coronavirus-katie-harvey- Being a generalist coach, with Katie Harvey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach - The story of publishing the 12-minute method https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/17/the-story-of-the-publishing-of-the-12-minute-method - www.self-published.co.uk - My 12-minute article about responsibility and rights https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/4/how-our-rights-have-taken-meaning-from-our-lives-and-how-responsibility-can-bring-it-back - Ewan Townhead's blog https://www.ewantownhead.com/blog/ - Alex Swallow’s article, ‘What I’ve learned from 100 articles on Linkedin’ https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/100-linkedin-articles-key-lessons-alex-swallow/ - Bounce by Matthew Syed https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/resource/bounce-the-myth-of-talent-and-the-power-of-practice/ - Enabling Genius by Myles Downey http://mylesdowney.com/writing/ - My 12-minute ‘practice’ article, about Matthew Syed and Myles Downey https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/talent-myth-robbie-swale/ - Coaches Rising https://www.coachesrising.com/ - Alta Starr https://strozziinstitute.com/staff/alta-starr/ - The War of Art by Steven Pressfield https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/ - My blog post on Jordan Peterson, the sacred masculine and the sacred feminine: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/4/how-our-rights-have-taken-meaning-from-our-lives-and-how-responsibility-can-bring-it-back - How I Became a Full Time Coach Less Than 2 Years After Starting My Training https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2017/5/31/how-i-became-a-full-time-coach-less-than-two-years-after-starting-my-training - The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler https://richlitvin.com/prosperous-coach-2-0/ - Episode #15 with Toku McCree https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword - Episode #20 with Giovanna Capozza https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-20-giovanna-capozza - Carolyn Freyer Jones https://carolynfreyerjones.com/ - 12-Minute Method Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/611939479993065 - The Tim Ferriss Show https://tim.blog/podcast/ - Seth Godin's 'big book' https://seths.blog/2017/03/the-last-copies-of-my-big-book/ - Seth Godin's article on The Bannister Method https://seths.blog/2018/03/the-bannister-method/ - David Reynolds' book https://www.amazon.com/Lead-Learn-Change-David-Reynolds/dp/1737919303- Karena de Souza’s book https://www.amazon.com/Contours-Courageous-Parenting-Tilting-Decisions/dp/1777508614

Feb 3, 2022 • 1h 54min
Episode #34: Anne Hathaway – The Thinking Environment and the Power of Being Heard
In a world where the attention we give people lasts just 11 seconds on average, Anne Hathaway is a believer in the transformative power of listening and being heard.She compares the experience of being truly heard to that of being loved, and this forms the heart of her work as a coach, supervisor and leadership developer, providing people with generative attention and spaces in which to heal and grow.When Anne discovered Nancy Kline's work around the Thinking Environment, she saw her own life's work in that approach. For over 25 years they have worked together at Time To Think, where Anne is a member of the senior faculty. Our conversation tracks her remarkable life and career, from overcoming profound personal and professional challenges to becoming an inspirational and celebrated coach, mentor and change facilitator.In this episode, we talk about:Generative attention, and how to listen in order to ignite the thinking of the other personHow listening skills can be the key to conflict resolutionThe fact that good ideas can come from anywhere, regardless of a person's status or positionHow to empower people who don't trust their own inner wisdomThe importance of creating conditions of safety in which people can healAnne describes the impact of Time To Think and the Thinking Environment as "world shaking", and explains how our train of thought can lead us to new horizons.She also opens up about her recent diagnosis for complex PTSD, and how that journey has inspired her to connect with and speak to the world in new ways.For more information about Anne, visit https://annehathaway.co.uk/ or email her at anne@annehathaway.co.uk.For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com, and to buy his book, click here.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/communityThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Robbie’s book, How to Start (a book, business or creative project) When You’re Stuck https://geni.us/startwhenyourestuck - Stephanie Archer at Time To Think https://www.timetothink.com/stephanie-archer/ - Nancy Kline's book, Time To Think https://www.timetothink.com/books/time-to-think/ - The Thinking Environment https://www.timetothink.com/thinking-environment/ - European Foundation for Management Development https://www.efmdglobal.org/ - Joyce Matthews tweet about being heard https://twitter.com/JoyceMatthews_/status/1480468857445830657?s=20 - Thinking Partnership Programme courses https://www.thinkitthrough.co.uk/thinking-partnership-programme/ - David Rock and the NeuroLeadership Institute https://neuroleadership.com/personnel/david-rock/ - Hamish McRae https://www.independent.co.uk/author/hamish-mcrae- The 10 Components https://www.timetothink.com/thinking-environment/the-ten-components/ - Dr Christopher Goscomb https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisgoscomb/- Time To Think collegiate days https://www.thethinkingproject.co.uk/professionaldevelopment/timetothinkcollegiatedays- Linda Aspey https://www.timetothink.com/coach/linda-aspey/- Alex Howard and The Optimum Health Clinic https://www.alexhoward.com/ - EMDR therapy https://www.apa.org/ptsd-guideline/treatments/eye-movement-reprocessing- Jayne Rooke's blog post on domestic abuse statistics https://jaynerooke.co.uk/blog/2022/1/10/monday-musings-not-and-advent-blog- Sarah Parrott's blog post on coercive and controlling behaviour https://epichr.co.uk/2021/12/27/adventblogs-you-do-matter-always/- Art Giser and Energetic NLP https://energeticnlp.com/about-art-giser/ - David Trelevean https://davidtreleaven.com/ - Somatic experiencing therapy https://www.seauk.org.uk/ - Anne's website www.annehathaway.co.uk

Jan 13, 2022 • 2h 10min
Episode #33: Raquel Ark – Listening ALCHEMY and the Gold Beyond Words
The name listening ALCHEMY came to Raquel Ark in the middle of the night, evoking ideas of how art and science could combine to distil and purify the act of listening.Soon after, she was asked to deliver a number of workshops on listening, giving her the confidence to build a career around the subject to which she has devoted her life and turn listening ALCHEMY into a business.As her recent TED talk testifies, listening is the centre of Raquel's work as a communications coach, public speaker, mentor of leaders, and host of the Listen IN podcast. Raquel’s mission is to give listening a voice, and she teaches people how to listen in a way that creates true connection, leading to change and action at an individual level and a broader, systemic level.In our conversation, Raquel shares powerful insights about her life and work, including a metaphorical tool for getting present in coaching sessions, and wisdom about how people's minds really work when they are listening.In this episode, we talk about:The power of playfulness in opening doors to new coaching methodsCoaching as a meditation on presenceHow to make sure you are understood in the way that's important to youListening circles and how to ensure everyone's voice is heardRaquel explains how listening is about more than words, and you will learn how to allow your clients to listen to themselves.For more information about Raquel, visit https://listeningalchemy.com/ or email her at contact@listeningalchemy.com.For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com, and to buy his book, click here.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/communityThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Robbie’s book, How to Start (a book, business or creative project) When You’re Stuck https://geni.us/startwhenyourestuck - Vera Janke https://www.linkedin.com/in/verajanke/- International Coaching Federation (ICF) https://coachingfederation.org/ - Transformational Presence: How to Make a Difference in a Rapidly Changing World, by Alan Seale https://transformationalpresence.org/transformational-presence-book/ - Coaches Rising, The Power of Presence https://www.coachesrising.com/powerofpresence/ - Robbie’s article on recommitting https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2018/5/23/recommitting-is-the-journey - Raquel's TED talk on Growing your Listening Superpower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wgFrKRjYiA - Raquel’s conversation with Colin Smith https://listeningalchemy.com/2021/11/15/stop-doing-listening-and-start-being-a-listener-with-colin-smith-2/ - Presencing Institute https://www.presencing.org/ - Jodie Goulden https://keynotewomen.com/speaker/jodiegoulden - Niels Van Quaquebeke https://www.the-klu.org/faculty-research/faculty/resident-faculty/niels-van-quaquebeke/- Mike Toller https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller - Myles Downey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey - Guy Itzchakov https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Guy-Itzchakov-2- Templeton Foundation's Listening and Learning study https://www.templetonworldcharity.org/blog/listening-and-learning-changing-mindsets-and-emotional-responses-promote-human-flourishing - Avi Kluger https://www.avi-kluger.com/about-me- Raquel's podcast, Listen In https://podcasts.apple.com/br/podcast/listen-in/id1457489060?l=en- Listen In episode with Corine Jansen https://listeningalchemy.com/2019/08/12/practical-insights-for-leaders-to-bring-listening-into-their-organizations-that-have-real-impact-with-corine-jansen-part-2/ - Raquel's Listening Playgrounds https://listeningalchemy.com/listening-playgrounds/- Rebel Wisdom https://rebelwisdom.co.uk/

Dec 2, 2021 • 2h 15min
Episode #32: Mike Toller – This Work, Coaching and Psychotherapy, is an Act of Care
Having achieved success running a popular clubnight in London and living his life by "trusting serendipity", Mike Toller wondered whether he could make more of a difference in people's lives. That thought was the beginning of his journey to becoming a professional coach and a psychodynamic psychotherapist.The world of coaching opened up to him through conversations with Phil Bolton, who trained both Mike and I at the very start of our coaching careers, and through some remarkable discussions with his flying instructor that Mike talks about in this episode.Our journeys have remained intertwined ever since, and recently we have been working together to train new coaches for a consultancy called Curve, who are doing amazing work in the world.That experience has given us the opportunity to refocus on the essence of our coaching practices, and in this episode we explore what we have learned and shared, both together and separately, over the course of an enduring friendship and a hugely productive working relationship.In this episode, we talk about:Using physical space symbolically to shift perspectives in coaching sessionsMike's role in the world's only indie air guitar bandGetting back to the fundamentals of coaching and how, as coaches, we can model healthy relationshipsThe vital importance of intentionality and how to create it in coaching relationshipsWhat happens when we make coaching sessions an embodied experienceMike is also a practising psychodynamic psychotherapist, and he offers valuable insight into both worlds, comparing and contrasting them from his unique vantage point.For more information about Mike, visit https://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/ or email him at michaeltollercoaching@gmail.com.For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com. Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/communityThings and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Phil Bolton http://www.phil-bolton.com/ - Vegard Olsen https://coachingpartner.net/cp/en/ - Introduction to Counselling at Birkbeck https://www.bbk.ac.uk/study/2021/short-courses/modules/SSPA/SSPA116N0/ - What a Girl Wants https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0286788/ - Feeling Gloomy https://feelinggloomy.com/ - Club de Fromage https://clubdefromage.com/ - The Coaching School https://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/training- Episode #2 with Phil Bolton https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders - Curve https://www.curve.cc/ - Episode #15 with Toku McCree https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword - Kim Morgan and Barefoot Coaching https://www.barefootcoaching.co.uk/about-us/kim-morgan - Robert Stephenson https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change - Animas https://www.animascoaching.com/creating-space/ - Closer Apart, the book on designing and facilitating workshops by Curve https://www.closerapartbook.com/ - The interview with Inga Umblija from Curve and Phil Bolton about their work on abundance https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-28-inga-umblija-phil-bolton-abundance-formula - John Monks https://www.thnk.org/community/people/john-monks/ - Katie Harvey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/coaching-during-coronavirus-katie-harvey


