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Apr 16, 2025 • 55min
How The Innovation Game Is Crowdsourcing Better Algorithms | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Ask Messari Copilot: How can decentralized protocols change the economics of R&D in science and AI?See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/decentralizing-r-d-economics-069debfe-3e9a-4281-8c5c-442e829d94b5How do we incentivize the next great algorithm? Why does open-source AI matter more than ever in a world of geopolitical tension and centralized power? In this episode, we dive deep with John Fletcher—physicist, mathematician, and creator of The Innovation Game—to explore a decentralized protocol for algorithm development, the future of AI scaling, and how crypto can align incentives for global innovation. From AI arms races to source separation in music production, this conversation spans the spectrum of science, strategy, and society.Read Their Recent Blog To Learn More: https://medium.com/@tigfoundation/the-innovation-game-how-a-market-for-open-algorithms-sets-science-free-b2eb6abcaa1e00:50 Introductions2:20 Protocol Basics8:23 Algorithmic Use Cases12:46 Historical Context18:27 Open Source Challenges24:47 Predictability29:25 Scaling and Global Talent36:08 Licensing42:36 Geopolitics50:42 Inspiration53:37 ConclusionHosted by Chris Davis of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

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Apr 10, 2025 • 54min
Cooked or Still Cooking? | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Dylan Bane and Sunny Shi, analysts at Messari, dive into intriguing discussions about decentralized physical infrastructure networks (DePIN) and scaling challenges. They tackle the recent Circle IPO delay and its implications for stablecoins, while exploring macroeconomic factors affecting the crypto market. The duo also examines the evolution of the Solana ecosystem and the ongoing turbulence in crypto gaming, particularly regarding tokenomics and consolidation. Get ready for insights on blockchain infrastructure and on-chain activities amidst market volatility!

Mar 24, 2025 • 57min
The Meta Got Too Smart: Now What? | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Ask Messari Copilot "Which protocols have shown the strongest fundamentals this cycle despite underperforming in price?" https://messari.io/copilot/share/evaluating-protocol-fundamentals-9ada2e1c-b1e5-4cd7-be67-dc24f483a0dcIn this episode, the Messari Enterprise team sits down for a candid conversation on where we are in the crypto market cycle—and where we might be headed.We dive into:🧠 How the market became too self-aware and what that means for future participation📉 Why ETH and altcoins are underperforming—even with a strong BTC ETF backdrop🏦 The real role of Bitcoin: risk-on asset or digital gold?🧪 Narrative fatigue, ETF skepticism, and the memecoin-to-perps trading migration🚀 What we're still bullish on: DPIN, Hyperliquid, product-led chains, and the long arc of self-custodyFrom macro outlooks and market structure to the memes that move markets, this is one of our most wide-ranging (and honest) conversations yet.The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.00:00 Intros01:12 Crypto Market Narratives & Trends10:55 Bitcoin & Ethereum Investment22:16 Blockchain & Infrastructure30:55 AI & Crypto Integration36:07 DeFi, Liquidity & Trading Strategies46:26 Future Predictions & Closing ThoughtsHosted by Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Mar 13, 2025 • 26min
Reinventing Online Privacy | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Join Anyone and Messari's Dylan Bane as they explore the future of decentralized online privacy.Anyone is building the largest internet-routing DePIN in the world: a modular privacy layer for any application to use seamlessly.The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.Hosted by Dylan BaneFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____

Mar 12, 2025 • 49min
Revolutionizing EV Charging | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Join DeCharge Founder and CEO, Mohan Kuldeep Ponnada, Co-founder Dr. Prakash Kamaraj and Messari's Dylan Bane as they explore the future of energy: decentralized, autonomous, and on-chain. DeCharge is leading the charge—literally—by building a global network of smart, autonomous EV chargers. With deployments already active in the U.S., Europe, and Asia, DeCharge is creating the infrastructure needed to support the rise of autonomous vehicles, drones, and decentralized physical AI (DePAI).The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.Hosted by Dylan BaneFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Feb 27, 2025 • 51min
Building Decentralized Physical AI | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Joining the conversation are Michael Cho, Co-founder of FrodoBots, creating autonomous robots for urban navigation, and Jonathan Victor, Co-founder of Onsir Research, specializing in decentralized infrastructure. They unpack how decentralized physical AI overcomes data collection hurdles, enabling innovative applications. They discuss the evolution of robotics, including the importance of human-like designs, and the thrilling competition between AI and skilled gamers, showcasing the potential of collaborative advancements in robotics and AI.

Feb 13, 2025 • 25min
The Evolution of Proof of Location and Decentralized Data With XYO | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Join Markus Levin (Co-Founder of XYO) and Messari's Dylan Bane as they explore the evolution of proof of location and decentralized data verification.Discover how XYO is bridging real-world data with blockchain through its proof-of-origin technology and vast global node network. Learn how the protocol is tackling challenges in location spoofing, tokenomics, and user adoption while scaling to new use cases like AI, gaming, and physical systems.The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.00:00 Intros01:13 Protocol and Background08:05 Data & Technology Trends09:40 Tokenomics & Governance17:19 User Experience (UX) & Adoption20:19 Building on L1s and Future Plans23:13 AI & Physical SystemsHosted by Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Feb 12, 2025 • 43min
PayFi Deep Dive With Huma and Solana | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Join Messari's CEO, Eric Turner, alongside Richard Liu (Co-Founder & Co-CEO of Huma Finance) and Lily Liu (President of Solana Foundation) as they explore the transformative potential of PayFi in crypto and traditional finance.
Discover how decentralized finance is reshaping cross-border payments, payment financing, and real-world financial applications. Learn why PayFi is more than just fast and cheap transactions—it's the future of a global, decentralized financial ecosystem.
Read the full PayFi report:
The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.
00:30 Intros
09:35 PayFi
17:33 Solana
26:23 Arf
34:39 Future
Hosted by Eric Turner of Messari
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This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Jan 29, 2025 • 29min
Disrupting Cloud Computing: Meet io.net
Ask Messari Copilot "How could io.net's model impact cloud computing costs for businesses?"
https://messari.co/4jBFZgo
Tory Green, io.net's Co-Founder and CEO, join Messari Enterprise Analyst, Dylan Bane to discuss io.net and cloud computing.
io.net is revolutionizing the $2.5 trillion cloud computing industry by creating a decentralized network of underutilized GPUs. Think "Airbnb for compute power." Their innovative approach offers virtually unlimited scalability, lower costs (up to 10x cheaper), and improved performance. Backed by an impressive network of 300,000 GPUs and partnerships across 130 countries, io.net is making waves in AI, decentralized infrastructure, and beyond.
The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.
00:52 Introduction to io.net & Its Purpose
05:29 Advantages of Decentralized Compute
13:15 io.net Token System
12:20 Partnerships & Collaborations
19:03 AI Agents & Compute Demand
21:50 Future Goals & Vision
Hosted by Dylan Bane of Messari
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This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Jan 28, 2025 • 19min
TRON's 2025 Vision with Justin Sun: Stablecoins, AI, and Growth
Ask Messari Copilot "How will the adoption of USDD V2 and other innovations on Tron shape the network’s role in 2025?"
https://messari.io/copilot/share/future-of-tron-in-2025-e672ab43-3f6c-4309-b1c3-1b95f6842df8
Tron Founder Justin Sun joins Messari CEO Eric Turner to discuss Tron's Q4 achievements, including its 35% revenue growth and the burn of 415 million TRX making it deflationary.
Check out Messari's TRON Portal at tron.messari.io
Justin shares exciting updates on the launch of USDD V2, the role of AI agents in blockchain, and how Tron is positioning itself for long-term growth amidst a shifting regulatory landscape. They also discuss the importance of stablecoins, meme coins, and how innovation continues to drive adoption in the crypto space.
The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.
00:37 Introduction
03:22 Stablecoin
06:50 Memecoin
10:38 U.S. Election
15:40 Future
Hosted by Eric Turner of Messari
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This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.
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