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Sep 17, 2025 • 43min
Botanix: The Bitcoin L2 Paying Native BTC Yield | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Botanix co-founders Willem Schroé and Alisia Painter join Messari's Dylan Bane on Fully Diluted to unpack a Bitcoin Layer-2 built for real finance. Botanix is a proof-of-stake Bitcoin L2 where 50% of gas fees flow to stakers via STBTC—a liquid, up-only, native Bitcoin yield backed by on-chain economic activity (not points or new tokens). We cover how users bridge BTC → Botanix → stake → earn, instant peg-outs, and why the team’s Spiderchain design prioritizes decentralization and censorship resistance (federation today, dynafed next, more than 1,000 nodes over time).We also dive into catalysts for BitcoinFi adoption (monetary incentives + trusted apps), BTC-backed stablecoins like Palladium (PUSD), perps and tokenized assets, and the 6–12 month roadmap as STBTC becomes base collateral across the Botanix ecosystem.0:00 – IntroductionsMeet the hosts and Botanics’ founders, William and Alicia, and hear how the project began.3:30 – Bitcoin L2 TodayState of Bitcoin Layer 2s, scaling challenges, and why Botanics is building for the long term.6:15 – Bridging & Spider ChainHow to bridge Bitcoin to Botanics, plus a deep dive into the Spiderchain security model.10:45 – Yield & IncentivesUnderstanding STBTC, gas-fee-backed Bitcoin yield, and why it’s a catalyst for adoption.20:25 – Adoption DriversKey ingredients for Bitcoin DeFi growth: incentives, builders, and decentralization.23:50 – StablecoinsExploring Palladium (PUSD) and the opportunity for Bitcoin-backed stablecoins in emerging markets.30:15 – DEXs & AssetsPerpetual DEXs, tokenized assets, and why Bitcoin collateral changes the game.36:55 – Roadmap AheadWhat’s next for Botanics: STBTC rollout, new apps, and expanding the federation.40:55 – Learning MoreWhere to find docs, tutorials, and how to start earning yield with Bitcoin.42:30 – ConclusionFinal thoughts on Bitcoin yield, self-custody, and building a sustainable Bitcoin DeFi future.Hosted by Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Sep 12, 2025 • 1h 10min
Exotic RWAs & the New Crypto Frontier | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
This week, the Messari Enterprise team digs into the next big unlocks and headwinds across crypto:🔹 Exotic RWAs (Pokémon cards, watches, wine): why tokenizing non-financial collectibles finally improves UX (instant settlement, lower trust frictions) and could onboard normies.🔹 Macro setup: weak jobs, CPI/PPI ahead, gold ripping, and why a surprise 50 bps cut isn’t crazy — plus what that means for BTC, SOL, and funding conditions.🔹 Solana DATs & flows: Galaxy/Jump/Multicoin’s $1.65B vehicle, what’s actually bullish (cash vs. locked), and realistic expectations for SOL vs. ETH.🔹 Pump.fun buybacks: short-term alignment vs. long-term cash needs to compete with Web2 social — when buybacks help and when they starve growth.🔹 Stripe’s Tempo L1: distribution monster or Libra 2.0? Permissionless claims, payment fast lanes, and the impact on ETH/Solana liquidity and “corpo chain” UX.🔹 Hyperliquid’s native stablecoin (USDH): Paxos, Agora, FRA, and Native Markets bids; revenue-share math; what it signals for Circle/USDC and for L1/L2 treasury design.🔹 MegaETH & new networks: timelines, yield vs. distribution in stablecoin wars, and why “attention + loyalty” may be the next moat.00:00 Exotic RWAs primer2:00 Macro & Fed odds (25 vs 50 bps)6:00 Solana DATs, flows & SOL/ETH12:40 Pump.fun buybacks debate23:00 Stripe Tempo L1 & “corpo chains”40:20 Hyperliquid USDH proposals56:00 Exotic RWA momentum & UX1:07:20 What we’re doing on-chainHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Sep 3, 2025 • 51min
Still Early: Crypto Venture After Hype With Framework | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
VC Brandon Potts (Framework Ventures) joins Fully Diluted to cut through the noise on crypto venture right now. We cover why “let the token rip” is a dead-end playbook, where real demand and distribution come from, and why the next wave looks like application-specific infrastructure, stablecoins at scale, and energy/DePIN feeding AI—not generic infra or meme “vibe-coded” apps.What we cover🔹 Why most CT hot takes are wrong & why we’re still early🔹 The new bar for founders: demand, distribution, revenue (not pre-launch tokens)🔹 Application-specific infra (e.g., Hyperliquid, Plasma) vs. generic chains🔹 Stablecoins after policy clarity (“Genius”): cost of capital, distribution, yield🔹 Energy x DePIN: on-chain finance for power, credits, and data centers🔹 Crypto ↔ AI reality: how miners morphed into the AI backbone; investable angles🔹 GPU marketplaces: where the thesis works—and where it breaks🔹 The coming B2B crypto/SaaS moment and why execution beats narratives00:32 Introductions02:17 Crypto Venture Market15:09 Stablecoins & Tokenization30:25 AI & Energy Investments39:29 GPU Compute & Infra Protocols43:06 Mapping & Decentralized Data47:41 Potts’ contrarian take: we’re still early50:50 ConclusionHosted by Dylan Bane and Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Aug 27, 2025 • 55min
Helium Revenue Burn, Fed Pivot, and Prediction Markets | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
In this week's episode, the Messari Enterprise team covers a loaded agenda:🔹 Helium Mobile’s move to burn 100% of revenue in HNT🔹 Fed pivot sparks a rally in ETH and TradFi equities🔹 Capital rotation across majors, altcoins, and onchain flows🔹 Hyperliquid smashes volume records and cements its spot as a top onchain venue🔹 Prediction markets (Flipper, Polymarket, KHI) gaining new traction🔹 Bio Protocol’s flywheel and the future of DeSci funding00:53 Introductions1:53 Market Outlook3:34 On-Chain Flows14:44 Hyper EVM17:34 Prediction Markets20:54 Product Growth40:03 Coinbase43:18 Helium (HNT)50:57 On-Chain Work54:08 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

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Aug 20, 2025 • 27min
Chainlink’s Future: Tokenization & Institutional Adoption | Unqualified Opinions by Messari Research
Johann Eid, Chief Business Officer at Chainlink, dives into the pivotal role of focus in the competitive crypto landscape. He shares his insights on finding product-market fit through Aave's journey and the exciting potential of tokenization and interoperability for widespread adoption. Johann discusses how blockchain connects traditional finance with crypto, highlighting a shift from skepticism to collaboration among institutions. He envisions a future where blockchain technology democratizes financial services, unlocking global financial freedom for all.

Aug 13, 2025 • 55min
Ethereum’s Surge, Institutional Buying & DeFi Impact | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Ethereum is up over 45% this month, outpacing every major asset — but what’s fueling this explosive move? In this episode, Matthew Nay and the Messari Enterprise team break down the drivers behind ETH’s outperformance, the institutional treasury race between Bitmine and ESB, and how these moves could reshape DeFi markets.We also dive into macro market conditions, CPI expectations, the surprising reception to GPT-5, ETH DeFi fundamentals, the Solana vs ETH narrative battle, and the breakout performance of projects like Zora and Succinct. Plus, we cover on-chain trends, perps, restaking, and why SocialFi may be the next hot narrative.Whether you’re an investor, builder, or DeFi degen, this is your front-row seat to the trends moving crypto markets right now.00:42 Introductions1:08 Macro Outlook8:28 ETH Treasuries15:56 DeFi Shift19:56 ETH vs. Solana25:24 Zora Rally34:24 Ecosystem Trends48:02 On-Chain Activity54:33 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Jul 30, 2025 • 1h 12min
$3.7T Stablecoins? Treasury’s Bet & Pump.Fun’s Fall | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
💡 Ask Messari Copilot: How will stablecoins reshape global finance if Treasury demand and TradFi adoption continue accelerating?👉 See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/stablecoin-future-79313968-8b6e-4ae5-b1cf-2fa779c6f098In Episode 10 of Shoot the Pod, the Messari Enterprise team breaks down a jam-packed week across crypto markets, TradFi trends, and frontier tech. We dive into Scott Bessant's bold prediction of a $3.7 trillion stablecoin market, the U.S. Treasury's surprisingly bullish stance, and how stablecoins might be used to backstop U.S. deficits.We also explore the explosion of Ethereum treasury activity, institutional appetite for onchain assets, and the fallout from Pump.Fun’s underwhelming launch. Plus: Zora’s surprise breakout, NFTs staging a comeback, and the emergence of DePIN-powered devices like the Dawn Blackbox.00:44 Introductions5:27 Macro Trends & Predictions7:30 Fund Strategies & Risk26:07 Market Sentiment46:06 Crypto Adoption & NFTs50:46 Stablecoin Forecast & DeFi1:02:18 On-Chain Activity1:10:19 Hyperliquid & Tools Access1:11:38 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Jul 24, 2025 • 40min
Stablecoins Are Changing Global Payments – Artemis' Anthony Yim| Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Want a comprehensive look at the stablecoin sector from top Messari analysts and industry-leading contributing partners? 📥 Download the FREE State of Stablecoins 2025 report live now: https://messari.io/report/state-of-stablecoins💡 Ask Messari Copilot: What do you think is the biggest untold story behind stablecoin adoption — enterprise growth, geopolitical implications, or DeFi-native FX innovation?👉 See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/stablecoin-adoption-untold-stories-548e40d4-bf68-43c6-b361-0c7a0a7d572fAre stablecoins the future of global payments? In this episode of Unqualified Opinions, Messari’s Andrew Young speaks with Anthony Yim of Artemis to discuss the findings of their new State of Stablecoins report.From B2B cross-border transactions to stablecoin-linked card payments and the dominance of Tron and Tether, this episode dives into the data behind the exponential growth of stablecoin infrastructure. Anthony shares insights on enterprise adoption, regional frictions, the realities of replacing legacy payment rails, and why major networks like Visa and Mastercard may not be going anywhere.We also explore:- How stablecoins are already rivaling legacy rails like PayPal and Visa- Why emerging markets are at the forefront of stablecoin usage- The geopolitical risks of dollar dominance in a tokenized economy- What new opportunities could arise from open, programmable money rails00:30 Introductions1:17 Survey & B2B Payment Trends7:17 Speed & Card Usage17:17 Stablecoin Behavior & Liquidity22:09 Regulation & Government Response31:54 Adoption Challenges35:51 Stablecoins as Strategy39:21 ConclusionHosted by Andrew Dyer of MessariFull list of contributing partners includes: Coinbase Developer Foundation, Tether, Tron, Addressable, Circle, Global Dollar Network, Stellar, Sky, Hyperbeat, Perena, fx Protocol, Bitso, Huma, Ondo Finance, Plasma, Firefly, Dragonfly, Anchorage Digital, and Sphere.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Jul 23, 2025 • 1h 9min
The Future of Global Payments with Sphere Labs' Arnold Lee | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Want a comprehensive look at the stablecoin sector from top Messari analysts and industry-leading contributing partners? 📥 Download the FREE State of Stablecoins 2025 report live now: https://messari.io/report/state-of-stablecoins💡 Ask Messari Copilot: How should emerging markets balance the benefits of dollar-denominated stablecoin access with the risks to their sovereign monetary policy?👉 See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/stablecoins-in-emerging-markets-a-balancing-act-63575aa2-c161-4091-b2b4-166c5cd640a3In this special Unqualified Opinions episode, Messari’s Andrew dives deep into the cross-border stablecoin economy with Arnold Lee, co-founder of Sphere Labs.They unpack:- What it means to operate without clear money transmitter laws in emerging markets- How “stablecoin sandwiches” are revolutionizing cross-border payments- Why FX inefficiencies still dominate traditional finance rails- The core thesis behind Sphere Pay and the Sphereet private Solana cluster- Why small, agile companies may have an edge over global fintech giants like Wise and Revolut- The looming tension between dollar stablecoin adoption and sovereign monetary policyWhether you're a builder in fintech, a stablecoin researcher, or just crypto-curious, this episode offers a comprehensive look at the real-world implications, frictions, and transformative potential of programmable money.00:45 Introductions1:11 What Sphere Is3:22 User Benefits15:39 How Liquidity Works25:33 Role in Routing34:52 Use Cases44:39 Competitor Talk47:27 Future and Risk1:05:40 What's Next?1:08:08 ConclusionHosted by Andrew Dyer of MessariFull list of contributing partners includes: Coinbase Developer Foundation, Tether, Tron, Addressable, Circle, Global Dollar Network, Stellar, Sky, Hyperbeat, Perena, fx Protocol, Bitso, Huma, Ondo Finance, Plasma, Firefly, Dragonfly, Anchorage Digital, and Sphere.Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Jul 16, 2025 • 57min
Pump Token Launch, Bonk Takeover & Phantom’s Big UX Play | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
💡 Ask Messari Copilot: How is Phantom’s integration with Hyperliquid reshaping the future of on-chain perps and trading UX?👉 See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/phantom-and-hyperliquid-integration-fe7767d4-8f7c-4efc-96d7-76682a2b2c75This episode of STSP covers the major catalysts driving crypto forward in July 2025. The team dives into the massive PUMP ICO, Hyperliquid’s breakout moment with Phantom, and what this means for the future of builder codes, trading infra, and Solana’s role in the evolving on-chain stack.Get insights into token launches, altcoin season indicators, macro momentum, and how Hyperliquid’s tech stack is rivaling CEXs in real time. Plus, a bullish Helium update and the team's on-chain plays.00:38 Introductions1:31 Macro & Bitcoin10:10 Crypto Week Impact11:50 PUMP & Meme Wars32:19 Urgency & Price Moves34:19 Hyperliquid vs. Others46:42 Chain Launch Talk47:27 Helium Update52:34 On-Chain Activity56:11 ConclusionHosted by Matthew Nay of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.