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Mar 24, 2025 • 57min
The Meta Got Too Smart: Now What? | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Ask Messari Copilot "Which protocols have shown the strongest fundamentals this cycle despite underperforming in price?" https://messari.io/copilot/share/evaluating-protocol-fundamentals-9ada2e1c-b1e5-4cd7-be67-dc24f483a0dcIn this episode, the Messari Enterprise team sits down for a candid conversation on where we are in the crypto market cycle—and where we might be headed.We dive into:🧠 How the market became too self-aware and what that means for future participation📉 Why ETH and altcoins are underperforming—even with a strong BTC ETF backdrop🏦 The real role of Bitcoin: risk-on asset or digital gold?🧪 Narrative fatigue, ETF skepticism, and the memecoin-to-perps trading migration🚀 What we're still bullish on: DPIN, Hyperliquid, product-led chains, and the long arc of self-custodyFrom macro outlooks and market structure to the memes that move markets, this is one of our most wide-ranging (and honest) conversations yet.The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.00:00 Intros01:12 Crypto Market Narratives & Trends10:55 Bitcoin & Ethereum Investment22:16 Blockchain & Infrastructure30:55 AI & Crypto Integration36:07 DeFi, Liquidity & Trading Strategies46:26 Future Predictions & Closing ThoughtsHosted by Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Mar 13, 2025 • 26min
Reinventing Online Privacy | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Join Anyone and Messari's Dylan Bane as they explore the future of decentralized online privacy.Anyone is building the largest internet-routing DePIN in the world: a modular privacy layer for any application to use seamlessly.The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.Hosted by Dylan BaneFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____

Mar 12, 2025 • 49min
Revolutionizing EV Charging | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Join DeCharge Founder and CEO, Mohan Kuldeep Ponnada, Co-founder Dr. Prakash Kamaraj and Messari's Dylan Bane as they explore the future of energy: decentralized, autonomous, and on-chain. DeCharge is leading the charge—literally—by building a global network of smart, autonomous EV chargers. With deployments already active in the U.S., Europe, and Asia, DeCharge is creating the infrastructure needed to support the rise of autonomous vehicles, drones, and decentralized physical AI (DePAI).The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.Hosted by Dylan BaneFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Feb 27, 2025 • 51min
Building Decentralized Physical AI | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Joining the conversation are Michael Cho, Co-founder of FrodoBots, creating autonomous robots for urban navigation, and Jonathan Victor, Co-founder of Onsir Research, specializing in decentralized infrastructure. They unpack how decentralized physical AI overcomes data collection hurdles, enabling innovative applications. They discuss the evolution of robotics, including the importance of human-like designs, and the thrilling competition between AI and skilled gamers, showcasing the potential of collaborative advancements in robotics and AI.

Feb 13, 2025 • 25min
The Evolution of Proof of Location and Decentralized Data With XYO | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Join Markus Levin (Co-Founder of XYO) and Messari's Dylan Bane as they explore the evolution of proof of location and decentralized data verification.Discover how XYO is bridging real-world data with blockchain through its proof-of-origin technology and vast global node network. Learn how the protocol is tackling challenges in location spoofing, tokenomics, and user adoption while scaling to new use cases like AI, gaming, and physical systems.The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.00:00 Intros01:13 Protocol and Background08:05 Data & Technology Trends09:40 Tokenomics & Governance17:19 User Experience (UX) & Adoption20:19 Building on L1s and Future Plans23:13 AI & Physical SystemsHosted by Dylan Bane of MessariFollow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979____This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

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Feb 12, 2025 • 43min
PayFi Deep Dive With Huma and Solana | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions
Richard Liu, Co-founder and Co-CEO of Huma Finance, and Lily Liu, President of Solana Foundation, share their insights on the future of PayFi. They discuss how decentralized finance is transforming cross-border payments and enhancing financial access. The conversation highlights the role of stablecoins in this evolution and the innovative ARF project, which aims to streamline international money transfers. They also touch on the increasing institutional interest in Solana, offering a glimpse into the future of finance and upcoming resources for developers.

Jan 29, 2025 • 29min
Disrupting Cloud Computing: Meet io.net
Ask Messari Copilot "How could io.net's model impact cloud computing costs for businesses?"
https://messari.co/4jBFZgo
Tory Green, io.net's Co-Founder and CEO, join Messari Enterprise Analyst, Dylan Bane to discuss io.net and cloud computing.
io.net is revolutionizing the $2.5 trillion cloud computing industry by creating a decentralized network of underutilized GPUs. Think "Airbnb for compute power." Their innovative approach offers virtually unlimited scalability, lower costs (up to 10x cheaper), and improved performance. Backed by an impressive network of 300,000 GPUs and partnerships across 130 countries, io.net is making waves in AI, decentralized infrastructure, and beyond.
The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.
00:52 Introduction to io.net & Its Purpose
05:29 Advantages of Decentralized Compute
13:15 io.net Token System
12:20 Partnerships & Collaborations
19:03 AI Agents & Compute Demand
21:50 Future Goals & Vision
Hosted by Dylan Bane of Messari
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This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Jan 28, 2025 • 19min
TRON's 2025 Vision with Justin Sun: Stablecoins, AI, and Growth
Ask Messari Copilot "How will the adoption of USDD V2 and other innovations on Tron shape the network’s role in 2025?"
https://messari.io/copilot/share/future-of-tron-in-2025-e672ab43-3f6c-4309-b1c3-1b95f6842df8
Tron Founder Justin Sun joins Messari CEO Eric Turner to discuss Tron's Q4 achievements, including its 35% revenue growth and the burn of 415 million TRX making it deflationary.
Check out Messari's TRON Portal at tron.messari.io
Justin shares exciting updates on the launch of USDD V2, the role of AI agents in blockchain, and how Tron is positioning itself for long-term growth amidst a shifting regulatory landscape. They also discuss the importance of stablecoins, meme coins, and how innovation continues to drive adoption in the crypto space.
The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.
00:37 Introduction
03:22 Stablecoin
06:50 Memecoin
10:38 U.S. Election
15:40 Future
Hosted by Eric Turner of Messari
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This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

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Jan 23, 2025 • 46min
Inside the PayFi Ecosystem Driving $2.8 Billion in Transactions with Huma Finance
Ask Messari Copilot "What are the most promising opportunities in PayFi's future?"
https://messari.io/copilot/share/exploring-payfi-s-future-opportunities-7240fa12-317e-4f2a-b764-d1787fe3e59a
Erbil Karaman, Huma Finance's Co-Founder and Tomer Weller, Stellar's CPO, join Messari CEO, Eric Turner, to discuss the PayFi Ecosystem and recently published Messari report.
Discover the PayFi ecosystem and its potential to revolutionize global payments, financing, and cross-border transactions. This conversation delves into real-world use cases, the PayFi stack, and the role of stablecoins and DeFi in shaping financial innovation. Tune in to hear more about the potential of blockchain to create seamless, efficient, and scalable payment systems.
00:00 Intros
02:53 What is Stellar?
04:17 What is PayFi?
06:42 Cross-border Payments and Stablecoins
11:54 Stablecoin & RWA Adoption
23:34 DeFi & PayFi Relationship
28:00 Most Exciting PayFi Use Case
33:56 Challenges and Headwinds
36:02 What is Arf?
39:20 Future
43:33 Ecosystem announcements
Hosted by Eric Turner of Messari
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This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.

Jan 15, 2025 • 35min
The Future of Stablecoins with Anna Yuan (Perena) | Fully Diluted with Messari Research
Ask Messari Copilot "How will new stablecoin issuers shape global liquidity and adoption?"
https://messari.co/4jbR8nP
Anna Yuan, Perena's Founder and former Stablecoin Lead at Solana Labs, joins the Messari Research team to discuss the future of stablecoins. From the challenges of liquidity fragmentation to the role of agentic payments and real-world applications of stablecoins, Anna shares her expertise on the innovations shaping decentralized finance (DeFi).
Discover how stablecoins are transforming global markets, what’s driving their adoption, and the exciting new opportunities emerging in the space. Don’t miss this deep dive into the intersection of fintech, crypto, and stablecoins.
The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.
00:00 Intros
03:22 Crypto Trends and Surprises
08:33 Stablecoins & Adoption
11:52 User Growth & Market Strategies
23:19 Market Consolidation & Fungibility
24:52 CDP Systems & Development
28:58 Future Winners & Risks
Hosted by Andrew Dyer & Kinji Steimetz of Messari
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This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.