The Future of Global Payments with Sphere Labs' Arnold Lee | Fully Diluted with Messari Research

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In this special Unqualified Opinions episode, Messari’s Andrew dives deep into the cross-border stablecoin economy with Arnold Lee, co-founder of Sphere Labs.

They unpack:

- What it means to operate without clear money transmitter laws in emerging markets

- How “stablecoin sandwiches” are revolutionizing cross-border payments

- Why FX inefficiencies still dominate traditional finance rails

- The core thesis behind Sphere Pay and the Sphereet private Solana cluster

- Why small, agile companies may have an edge over global fintech giants like Wise and Revolut

- The looming tension between dollar stablecoin adoption and sovereign monetary policy

Whether you're a builder in fintech, a stablecoin researcher, or just crypto-curious, this episode offers a comprehensive look at the real-world implications, frictions, and transformative potential of programmable money.

00:45 Introductions

1:11 What Sphere Is

3:22 User Benefits

15:39 How Liquidity Works

25:33 Role in Routing

34:52 Use Cases

44:39 Competitor Talk

47:27 Future and Risk

1:05:40 What's Next?

1:08:08 Conclusion

Hosted by Andrew Dyer of Messari

Full list of contributing partners includes: Coinbase Developer Foundation, Tether, Tron, Addressable, Circle, Global Dollar Network, Stellar, Sky, Hyperbeat, Perena, fx Protocol, Bitso, Huma, Ondo Finance, Plasma, Firefly, Dragonfly, Anchorage Digital, and Sphere.

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