AI in Practice

Todd Smith, a board-certified appellate lawyer in Texas, discusses the transformative impact of AI on legal practices. He highlights how AI assists in analyzing trial transcripts and surfacing potential arguments, while emphasizing the necessity of human judgment in determining their persuasive power. Todd also addresses the challenges of AI adoption among lawyers, the shift towards flat fee billing, and the value of AI in marketing strategies. His insights reveal both the potential and the limitations of AI in the courtroom.

Before "AI automation" was a buzzword, Joey Vitale built Indie Law to operate without him. That experience—paired with years helping lawyers scale through virtual assistants—turned him into a quiet expert on systems, delegation, and identity. In this episode, he and host Mike Whelan dig into what happens when the work that once defined you starts running itself, and why the real value of a lawyer might have less to do with tasks and more to do with trust. 💎 𝗦𝗽𝗲𝗹𝗹𝗯𝗼𝗼𝗸: Draft and review contracts 10x faster ➞ try it free: https://www.spellbook.legal/ 𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀: 0:00 - Introduction 2:15 - Why Joey left litigation 5:34 - The crisis that forced systematization 8:27 - Four stages: doer to strategist 14:44 - Managing VAs prepares you for AI 19:42 - Prompting AI effectively 24:15 - 80% right is 100% awesome 32:51 - Redefining lawyer identity 36:20 - Why clients still need attorneys

Alessandra Colaci helps in-house legal teams figure out how to actually use AI—not just talk about it. As the founder of Legal Plus AI and former founding marketer at Harvey, she's spent years teaching lawyers to prompt, experiment, and integrate AI into their daily work. In this conversation, she breaks down the quick wins that build momentum, the security concerns that keep lawyers up at night, and why most teams need to start smaller than they think. 💎 𝗦𝗽𝗲𝗹𝗹𝗯𝗼𝗼𝗸: Draft and review contracts 10x faster ➞ try it free: https://www.spellbook.legal 𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀: 0:00 - Introduction 1:10 - Meet Alessandra Colaci 2:34 - The adoption gap: Strategy vs. reality 3:42 - Micro-learning and experimentation 6:04 - Quick wins 6:54 - Using AI as a thought partner 11:32 - The "prompt library" approach 13:48 - What to try on your own vs. with the team 17:18 - What's real vs. what's fear 22:53 - When courts will catch up to AI as standard practice 24:27 - Learning what works for you 27:34 - Connect with Alessandra

Beau Atkins runs Evolve Family Law in Saskatchewan, Canada, where he's using AI to reach the 79% of people with legal problems who never hire a lawyer. In this conversation, he shares how he built an AI-assisted tool that guides self-represented clients through court processes — and how he's testing an AI agent to handle intake calls. His end goal? Serve with three lawyers what would normally take 300. 𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀: 0:00 - Introduction 1:14 - Meet Beau Atkins 2:15 - The journey from frustrated lawyer to entrepreneur 5:34 - AI experiments in family law practice 8:27 - Solving the 79% problem 14:44 - Ethics, disclaimers, and hallucinations 19:42 - What clients really want (and don't get) 27:58 - Product design: Flat fees and AI tools 30:25 - Learning from COVID experiments 32:51 - How Beau uses AI today 33:33 - Connect with Beau 💎 𝗦𝗽𝗲𝗹𝗹𝗯𝗼𝗼𝗸: Draft and review contracts 10x faster ➞ try it free: https://www.spellbook.com