
Product Driven
Building software products requires caring more about the product than it does the technology used to build the product. On this podcast, we discuss bringing a product driven mindset to every step of the product development process.
Latest episodes

Feb 20, 2025 • 34min
How to Talk to Software Engineers with Josh Herzig-Marx
🎯 Engineering Communication Excellence: Breaking Down Barriers with Josh Herzig-MarxA deep dive into transforming how product teams communicate with engineers, featuring expert insights from coach Josh Herzig-Marx. Learn practical frameworks for better collaboration, effective requirement documentation, and creating a culture of open dialogue in tech teams.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://fullscaleteam.com/newsletterGet our FREE Ebook: https://fullscaleteam.com/productfirstteamsPowered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/🔑 Key Discussion Points:Why perfect documentation isn't the answer and what to focus on insteadThe power of visual storytelling in product developmentHow to engage engineers earlier in the product processTransforming engineers from order-takers to strategic partnersCreating psychological safety for better team conversations⏱️ Episode Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction and Background02:11 - Early Stage Company Challenges04:04 - The Problem with Perfect Documentation07:18 - Managing Trade-offs in Development13:07 - User Story Mapping and Visual Tools16:44 - The Power of Storytelling in Requirements20:23 - Google's Approach to Product Vision24:01 - Top Challenges in Early-Stage Companies26:39 - Bringing Engineers into the Process Earlier28:36 - Rethinking Documentation Approaches30:17 - The Importance of Fundamentals💡 Featured Insights:"The goal of documents isn't to better communicate, it's to have better conversations." - Josh Herzig-Marx📚 Resources Mentioned:RANDS Leadership Slack CommunityJosh's Website: jhm.lolUser Story Mapping TechniquesLenny's Slack Community🎯 Ready to transform your engineering communication? Hit subscribe and the notification bell to never miss insights on building better product teams. Leave a comment with your biggest communication challenge - let's solve it together!

Feb 18, 2025 • 29min
Product Managers Drive Value, Project Managers Track Tasks
🎯 Product Management Evolution: Roles, Responsibilities & Future TrendsIn this insightful episode of Product Driven, Matt Watson and Jerel dive deep into the evolving landscape of product management, exploring the crucial distinctions between product managers, product owners, and project managers. They unpack how these roles contribute differently to software development teams and discuss why understanding these differences is vital for building successful products.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://fullscaleteam.com/newsletterGet our FREE Ebook: https://fullscaleteam.com/productfirstteamsPowered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/🎙️ Episode Summary:Explore the transformative world of product management as Matt and Jerel break down the key differences between project and product mindsets. Learn why product managers focus on outcomes while project managers concentrate on outputs, and discover how AI is reshaping these roles. The conversation highlights the importance of product thinking in engineering teams and why software developers need to evolve into "mini product owners" in an AI-driven future.Key Discussion Points:The fundamental differences between product management and project managementWhy project managers may be less valuable in modern software teamsThe CPO framework: Customer, Problem, OutcomeHow startup founders embody the ideal product management mindsetThe evolution of product management roles in the age of AIWhy engineers need to develop stronger product thinking skillsChapters:00:00 - Introduction and Role Definitions02:31 - Project vs Product Management Comparison06:27 - Understanding Product Management09:13 - Scaling Product Teams15:18 - Product Manager vs Product Owner20:06 - The Future of Software Development22:17 - Product Management Specialization24:59 - Engineering and Product Management Integration🎯 Ready to Transform Your Product Journey?Don't miss out on future episodes packed with actionable insights and expert perspectives! Hit subscribe, enable notifications 🔔, and join our growing community of product-driven innovators. Share your thoughts in the comments below – what's your take on the future of product management?

Feb 13, 2025 • 33min
Hero CTO turned Strategic CTO: The Path to Executive Leadership with Adam Horner
🔄 From Hero to Leader: The Evolution of the Modern CTOJoin Matt Watson and CTO coach Adam Horner in an insightful exploration of the transformative journey from technical hero to strategic leader. Discover why successful CTOs must evolve beyond individual technical contributions to drive organizational success through strategic leadership.This comprehensive discussion examines the critical transition phases of technical leadership, from founding engineer to executive CTO. Through practical insights and real-world experiences, learn how to navigate the challenging path from hands-on problem solver to strategic business leader while maintaining technical credibility.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://fullscaleteam.com/newsletterGet our FREE Ebook: https://fullscaleteam.com/productfirstteamsPowered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/Key Discussion Points:🎯 The four stages of CTO evolution💡 Transitioning from firefighter to strategist🔄 Balancing technical expertise with leadership⚡ Executive team integration strategies📊 Product-driven leadership approaches🌱 Building empathy across engineering teamsChapters:0:00 - Introduction to modern CTO challenges3:14 - Four stages of CTO development5:08 - Strategic thinking importance7:01 - Managing firefighting mode10:05 - Delegation and ownership14:29 - Executive communication strategies18:28 - Product focus importance21:56 - Engineering empathy development27:15 - Communication fundamentals30:38 - Closing thoughts and resourcesTransform your technical leadership approach through strategic thinking and business alignment. Join our community of forward-thinking technology leaders shaping the future of software development.

Feb 11, 2025 • 38min
Zero to $50M: 5 Hard-Won Lessons Scaling a Global Development Team
🏆 Scaling to $50M: Key Lessons from Building a Global Software Development CompanyJoin Matt Watson and Darrell Blackburn as they celebrate a remarkable milestone at Full Scale - reaching $50 million in revenue and delivering over 2 million hours of software development services. In this candid conversation, they share the challenges, victories, and essential insights gained from building a successful global development team.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://fullscaleteam.com/newsletterGet our FREE Ebook: https://fullscaleteam.com/productfirstteamsPowered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/🎯 Episode Summary:Step inside the journey of scaling a professional services company from startup to industry leader. Matt and Darrell discuss how they transformed common offshore development challenges into opportunities, built a thriving remote-first culture, and maintained exceptional employee retention in an industry known for high turnover. Their conversation reveals the human side of scaling a global tech company while maintaining quality and culture across borders.💡 Key Discussion Points:The evolution from office-based to remote-first operations during COVIDAchieving 94% employee retention in an industry averaging 20-30% turnoverManaging and measuring performance across 250+ software developersBalancing customer satisfaction with employee well-beingThe importance of company culture in global operationsHow listening to both customers and employees shapes company direction⏱️ Chapter Markers:00:00 - Introduction and Company Evolution02:34 - Early Growth and Business Model07:40 - Managing Remote Teams Successfully15:06 - Employee Retention Strategies22:37 - COVID Impact and Remote Transformation28:18 - Customer and Employee Feedback33:39 - Value of Quality Talent🎯 Ready to Scale Your Development Team?Join thousands of tech leaders who've transformed their development capabilities with Full Scale. Hit subscribe and the notification bell 🔔 to stay updated on scaling strategies and tech leadership insights. Share your scaling challenges in the comments - what's your biggest obstacle in growing a development team?

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Feb 6, 2025 • 20min
Every Team Needs Demo Day to Build Things Customers Actually Use with Chris Borchers
Chris Borchers, Chief Technology and Product Officer at Basis, reveals how Demo Day can transform engineering culture by boosting accountability and fostering celebration. He discusses the evolution of Demo Day from a small team event to a company-wide phenomenon, attracting over 75 attendees. The conversation highlights the importance of executive involvement, safe spaces for feedback, and maximizing feature adoption. Borchers emphasizes building a culture of pride and ownership, ensuring teams connect technical achievements with business value.

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Feb 4, 2025 • 6min
Roadmaps.sh
Explore the transformative power of roadmap.sh in accelerating developer growth. Discover how Full Scale assesses technical expertise and guides career progression through systematic evaluation. Delve into strategies for bridging knowledge gaps between junior and senior developers, and see how quarterly reviews can enhance performance. The discussion highlights the essential balance of challenge and support for developers, showcasing practical applications for hiring and retention.

Jan 30, 2025 • 24min
We Still Need Software Engineers, Even With AI with Joe Giglio
🤖 AI in Software Development: Real World Testing & Reality CheckJoin Matt Watson and software veteran Joe Giglio in candidly exploring AI coding tools' current capabilities and limitations. Through hands-on testing and real-world examples, discover the truth behind the hype and what these tools can deliver for development teams.In this discussion, Joe shares insights from months of testing various AI coding tools, from GitHub Copilot to Cursor, revealing their impressive capabilities and significant limitations. Learn why AI remains a productivity tool rather than a developer replacement, and understand the crucial context marketing headlines often miss.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://newsletter.productdriven.com/Powered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/Connect with Joe Giglio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joegiglio/Or find him on Twitter: https://x.com/ChiefRemoteKey Discussion Points:🎯 Real-world AI coding tool experiments💡 Limitations in complex project scenarios🔄 Testing automation challenges⚡ The reality of AI hallucinations📊 Future potential and current constraints🌱 The importance of developer expertiseChapters:0:00 - Introduction and AI testing background1:27 - Complex project challenges4:30 - Non-developer experiences7:28 - Test automation experiments10:14 - Prompt engineering realities13:09 - Tool limitations and bugs15:49 - Real software development context18:04 - Future possibilities discussionTransform your understanding of AI's role in software development by joining our community of practitioners who separate AI fact from fiction.

Jan 28, 2025 • 9min
The New Engineering Manager Problem and 3 Tips to Fix it
🔄 The Evolution of Engineering Leadership: From Individual Contributor to Effective ManagerJoin Matt Watson in a transformative exploration of the critical transition from technical expert to engineering leader. Drawing from over 20 years of CTO experience and real customer insights, discover why many engineering teams struggle with growth and how to overcome these fundamental challenges.This illuminating discussion delves into the complex dynamics of engineering leadership, revealing the three distinct types of engineering managers and why understanding these roles is crucial for organizational success. Through practical examples and personal insights, Matt shares essential strategies for balancing individual contribution with team leadership.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://newsletter.productdriven.com/Powered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/Key Discussion Points:🎯 The transition challenges from individual contributor to manager💡 Three archetypal engineering leader profiles⚡ Balancing technical work with people management🔄 Creating effective teaching moments📈 Scaling strategies for growing teamsChapters:0:00 - Introduction to engineering management challenges1:15 - Three types of engineering leaders2:30 - Individual contributor mindset barriers3:45 - The productivity multiplication effect4:50 - Breaking the bottleneck pattern6:00 - Three essential tips for improvement7:15 - Time management strategies8:30 - Team success focus9:45 - Learning moment opportunitiesThree Critical Tips for New Engineering Managers:1. Structure your day for focused leadership time2. Measure success through team achievements3. Leverage teaching opportunities instead of solving problems directlyTransform your approach to engineering leadership through these proven strategies. Join our community of technology leaders dedicated to building more effective, scalable engineering teams.

Jan 23, 2025 • 45min
Managing Global Dev Teams: Cultural Nuances & Leadership Challenges
🌍 Managing Global Dev Teams: Cultural Nuances & Leadership ChallengesJoin Matt Watson and Oshri Cohen, an experienced fractional CTO, as they dive deep into the complexities of managing global development teams. Learn essential strategies for navigating cultural differences, building effective communication channels, and creating successful offshore development partnerships.In this insightful discussion, Oshri Cohen shares his extensive experience managing development teams across multiple continents, from the Middle East to Latin America. The conversation explores critical aspects of global team management, including cultural sensitivity, communication styles, and the importance of technical leadership. Matt and Oshri break down common challenges in offshore development and provide practical solutions for building successful cross-cultural development teams.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://newsletter.productdriven.com/Powered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/Key Discussion Points:🔵 The three pillars of engineering leadership: Strategic, Operational, and Technical🔵 Cultural nuances in different regions and their impact on team dynamics🔵 The importance of empathy and understanding in cross-cultural communication🔵 Why technical leadership must remain in-house for successful offshore partnerships🔵 Strategies for effective task delegation and project management across time zonesChapters:00:00 - Introduction and Overview00:43 - Meeting Oshri Cohen01:29 - Common Challenges in Remote Team Management02:20 - Components of Engineering Leadership03:33 - Importance of Technical Leadership05:41 - Defined vs Undefined Work07:11 - Cultural Differences and Communication14:49 - Regional Cultural Insights18:24 - Building Trust and Foundation21:07 - Understanding Cultural Communication Styles23:48 - Respecting Cultural Differences25:33 - Closing Thoughts and Contact InformationWhether you're scaling your development team or seeking insights into cross-cultural team management, this episode provides invaluable wisdom for navigating the complexities of global software development in today's interconnected world. 🌐✨

Jan 21, 2025 • 7min
2 Things You Need to Scale an Engineering Team
🔑 The Two Critical Elements for Scaling Engineering TeamsJoin Matt Watson as he shares crucial insights from real customer experiences at Full Scale, revealing the fundamental barriers that prevent most companies from successfully scaling their engineering teams. Through practical examples and hard-earned wisdom, discover why undefined leadership can't delegate undefined work.Drawing from conversations with actual customers and years of experience managing 300+ employees, Matt breaks down the essential components needed to scale engineering teams effectively. Learn why product strategy and capable leadership form the foundation of successful team growth, and how to overcome common scaling challenges.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://newsletter.productdriven.com/Powered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/Key Discussion Points:🎯 The importance of clear product roadmaps💡 Transitioning from individual contributor to leader🔄 Finding and developing player-coach leaders⚡ Building trust in development partnerships📊 Balancing strategy, operations, and technical leadershipChapters:0:00 - Introduction to scaling challenges0:50 - Product roadmap importance1:28 - Real customer examples2:13 - Leadership transition challenges3:27 - Solution architect approach4:48 - Trust as a foundation5:31 - Three types of engineering managers6:20 - Closing thoughts and recommendationsEssential Requirements for Scaling:Clear product strategy and roadmapLeadership capable of delegationTrustworthy partnershipsBalance of technical and management skillsDefined processes and structureTransform your engineering team's growth potential by implementing these proven strategies. Join our community of leaders dedicated to building scalable, efficient development teams.