

Product Driven
Matt Watson
Building software products requires caring more about the product than it does the technology used to build the product. On this podcast, we discuss bringing a product driven mindset to every step of the product development process.
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Aug 21, 2025 • 30min
How AI Is Really Impacting Developer Experience and the Real Productivity Problem with Laura Tacho
Laura Tacho, CTO at DX and a leading expert in developer experience, shares insights on how AI is reshaping software development. She highlights the concept of developer experience and its "marketing problem." Tacho discusses the real friction sources hindering productivity, stressing that organizational challenges, not just tech issues, are the main culprits. She also unpacks the evolving role of developers, the impact of AI on workflow efficiency, and the importance of bridging communication gaps between engineering and business.

Aug 14, 2025 • 30min
Why We Still Need Software Engineers in the Age of AI with Brian Jenney
Brian Jenney, a seasoned software engineer and founder of the coding bootcamp Parsity, shares insights on the evolving role of engineers amid AI advancements. He differentiates between 'code that runs' and 'code that lasts,' emphasizing craftsmanship. Discussing the risks of over-relying on AI, he warns against blindly shipping generated code. Brian champions the importance of foundational skills in coding and highlights how diverse backgrounds contribute to the tech field, preparing career-switchers to tackle real-world challenges.

Aug 7, 2025 • 33min
Simple Systems that Let CTOs Delegate Ownership—and Still Sleep at Night with Brittany Rastsmith
If you’re running a startup, chances are you’re the bottleneck. Brittany Rastsmith joins Product Driven to talk through why founders constantly end up in this trap and how to escape it. She works with early-stage companies through her consulting firm, Bloom Remote, and she's seen it all. We get into how to create clarity, visibility, and accountability across your team so you’re not stuck answering every question, solving every problem, or staying up all night wondering if anything is getting done. If you want your team to take ownership and drive outcomes—not just check boxes—this episode is for you.[01:36] - Why being the bottleneck it's a stage [03:06] - Choose your hard: micromanage or build trust [08:06] - How to measure what matters[11:06] - Delegating doesn't work if you dump chaos [15:06] - Explain your thinking if you want your team to carry it out [16:36] - The power of decision logs and written rationale [20:21] - Why psychological safety is key to team ownership [22:06] - Rubber-stamping is the death of progress [24:36] - Why most managers are untrained (and why that matters) [28:36] - Productivity vs. busyness: where your team might be stuck [29:51] - Inputs vs. outcomes: how to tell what's actually broken [31:41] - Where to find Brittany and learn more about Bloom RemoteLinks & Resources:Brittany Rastsmith on LinkedIn: Bloom RemoteGet the Book: https://mybook.to/productdrivenNewsletter: productdriven.comConnect with Matt: https://linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonGet the Offshore Hiring Guide: https://hirefullscale.com/offshore-hiring-guide

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Jul 31, 2025 • 30min
Technical Co-Founders are Startup Gold with Noah Lindner
In this engaging discussion, Noah Lindner, an ex-Airbnb engineer now consulting at 10x Developers, debunks the '10X developer' myth, redefining them as workflow architects who enhance productivity. He and host Matt Watson explore the nuances of recruiting technical co-founders in a competitive landscape, shedding light on the skills that truly matter. They discuss the vital importance of communication and feedback in software development, ultimately emphasizing how proper alignment of technical expertise and product vision can drive startup success.

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Jul 24, 2025 • 34min
CTO Levels and the Path to Strategic Tech Leadership with Kathy Keating
Kathy Keating, an industry veteran and co-founder of CTO Levels, shares her expertise in scaling engineering teams and navigating the evolving landscape of technology leadership. She delves into the multifaceted role of the CTO, discussing how today's leaders balance strategy and operations. Key topics include the importance of understanding the broader context of engineering challenges and the impact of AI on productivity. Kathy also introduces a valuable framework to support CTOs at different stages of their careers, emphasizing the need for adaptability and leadership growth.

Jul 17, 2025 • 42min
Inside 'Product Driven': Why This New Book is Every Engineering Leader's Must-Read
Product Driven: Building Software Teams That Ship Value 🚀In this special book launch episode, we dive deep into the intersection of engineering leadership, product thinking, and the transformative impact of AI on software development. Join Matt Watson and Craig Ferril as they explore the revolutionary "Product Driven Model" and why traditional development approaches are becoming obsolete.🔗 Essential Resources:Get the Book: https://a.co/d/100RmwCNewsletter: productdriven.comConnect with Matt: https://linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonFull Scale Ventures: https://fullscaleventures.comGet the Offshore Hiring Guide: https://hirefullscale.com/offshore-hiring-guideKey Discussion Highlights:🎯 The Product Driven Model (Five Core Components)Vision: Understanding the "why" behind every decisionFocus: Keeping customer outcomes at the centerClarity: Providing just enough context without overwhelmingShared Ownership: Distributing responsibility across teamsCourage: Creating psychological safety for innovation🤖 AI's Leadership ChallengeEngineering bottlenecks are shifting from throughput to directionTeams going "2x faster in the wrong direction" create bigger problemsLeadership must evolve from requirement-feeders to vision-communicatorsThe rise of "low-code thinking" in traditional development🎯 From Individual Contributors to LeadersThe transition from "doing" to "enabling others to do"Four types of engineering leadership: Strategic, Operational, Technical, and ProductWhy most leaders aren't good at all four (and shouldn't try to be)Chapter Timestamps:00:00 - Book Launch Introduction & "Find Your Craig"08:16 - Why AI Makes Product Thinking Critical15:03 - The Death Spiral of Internal Focus18:07 - Creating Cultures of Courage vs. Fear23:14 - The Five Components of Product Driven Model32:40 - Future of Engineering Leadership37:22 - Closing the Feedback Loop with Introverted Teams💡 Key Takeaways:For Engineering Leaders:Stop being the bottleneck - build teams that don't need youCreate environments where "calling the baby ugly" is celebratedFocus on making other people more productiveFor Product Teams:Shift from feature factories to outcome-driven developmentEmbrace the "win or learn" mentalityConnect every technical decision to customer valueFor Organizations:AI won't solve leadership problems - it will expose themCulture and strategy must work in tandemThe future belongs to teams that think like product ownersThe conversation reveals a fundamental shift happening in software development. As AI democratizes code creation, the competitive advantage moves from "how fast can we build" to "what should we build and why." Teams that master this transition will thrive; those that don't will find themselves building faster in the wrong direction.💬 Join the Conversation: How is your engineering team adapting to the AI-driven future? Share your experiences with implementing product thinking in technical teams!🎧 Subscribe to Product Driven for more insights on building software teams that deliver real value.Special thanks to Craig Ferril for the thoughtful discussion and early feedback on the book. The future of software development isn't just about better tools - it's about better thinking.

Jul 15, 2025 • 4min
The Engineering Leadership Book That Actually Shows You How to Build Product-Minded Teams
Product Driven: The Book Launch - A Software Leader's Journey to Creating High-Performance Teams 📚After months of intensive writing and years of industry experience, Matt Watson unveils his groundbreaking book "Product Driven" - a comprehensive guide for engineering leaders seeking to build teams with a genuine product mindset. This isn't just another business book; it's a practical roadmap for transforming how software teams think, work, and deliver value.In this revealing first look, Matt shares the personal journey that led to creating this essential resource for the tech industry. Drawing from his extensive career building and scaling software products, he addresses a critical gap in leadership literature - how to actually build and manage teams that think like product owners, not just code executors.🔗 Essential Resources:Get the Book: https://a.co/d/100RmwCNewsletter: productdriven.comConnect with Matt: https://linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonFull Scale Ventures: https://fullscaleventures.comGet the Offshore Hiring Guide: https://hirefullscale.com/offshore-hiring-guideKey Discussion Points:The evolution from developer conference speech to comprehensive leadership guideWhy product mindset separates high-performing developers from the restThe cultural transformation required for sustainable team successPractical frameworks for engineering leaders to implement immediatelyThe 500-hour writing journey and lessons learnedChapter Timestamps:00:00 - The Big Reveal: First Look at Product Driven00:22 - The Origin Story: From Conference Speech to Book01:30 - The Culture Revolution: Why Leadership Matters02:38 - The Writing Process: 500 Hours of InsightsReady to Transform Your Team? Share your biggest leadership challenge in the comments - what's preventing your developers from thinking like product owners? Let's discuss practical solutions that actually work in real engineering environments.

Jul 10, 2025 • 31min
Rethinking Requirements When Engineers Are No Longer the Bottleneck with Chris Rickard
Breaking Through Requirements Hell: How AI is Revolutionizing Software Development 🚀In this compelling exploration of technological transformation, host Matt Watson connects with Chris Rickard, founder of UserDoc, broadcasting from Vietnam. Their conversation unveils a profound shift happening across the software industry—one where artificial intelligence is fundamentally reshaping the relationship between business stakeholders and development teams.What emerges is a fascinating paradox: as AI accelerates coding capabilities, the critical constraint shifts from "how do we build it?" to "what exactly should we build?" Chris's journey from software engineer to product innovator illustrates this transformation, revealing how traditional bottlenecks are being reimagined through AI-powered requirements management.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!): Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodes Connect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/ Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://fullscaleteam.com/newsletter Get our FREE Ebook: https://fullscaleteam.com/productfirstteams Powered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/ Download the FREE Offshore Hiring Guide: https://hirefullscale.com/offshore-hiring-guideUserDoc: https://userdoc.comChris Rickard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrickard/Key Discussion Points:AI-Powered Requirements Creation: How UserDoc accelerates requirements by 50-70% while maintaining human oversightReverse Engineering Legacy Systems: Converting complex source code (including COBOL) into understandable business featuresThe Shifting Development Bottleneck: Why clarity becomes paramount when AI makes development fasterIntegration with Modern Workflows: Connecting requirements directly to AI coding tools like Cursor and GitHub CopilotChapter Timestamps:00:00 - The Universal Developer Dilemma02:28 - Genesis of UserDoc07:57 - Beyond Product Managers: Who Really Needs This14:40 - Technical Challenges of Code Analysis22:44 - The Great Bottleneck Shift27:04 - Pricing and Market AccessibilityReady to break free from requirements chaos and accelerate your development workflow? The conversation with Chris Rickard reveals a pivotal moment in software development—where AI amplifies human potential rather than replacing it. Share your own requirements management challenges in the comments below. How has AI changed your development process? What bottlenecks are you experiencing as coding becomes more automated?

Jul 3, 2025 • 29min
How Boddle's Product-Driven Approach Built Educational Games That Kids Ask Parents to Buy with Clarence Tan
Learning Through Play: How Boddle Built Educational Games That Kids Actually WantIn this insightful conversation, Matt Watson talks with Clarence Tan, founder and CEO of Boddle Learning, about their journey building educational games that have reached over 10 million users. Clarence shares how they tackled the classic problem of educational games - how to make them as engaging as regular games while maintaining educational value. By creating fun games first and then "sneaking in" learning content, Boddle has found success in the competitive educational technology space.The most valuable lesson? Get out of the office and actually watch users interact with your product. Rather than spending money on complex analytics, the Boddle team discovered their biggest product issues simply by visiting classrooms and observing how kids used their app. Clarence also shares how they eventually cracked the monetization code by understanding that parents were buying subscriptions not because they understood the educational benefits, but because their kids wanted the in-game items.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://newsletter.productdriven.com/Powered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/GET THE PRODUCT DRIVEN BOOK: https://productdriven.com/bookCheck out Boddle here: https://www.boddlelearning.com/Key Discussion Points:🎮 Building educational games that are genuinely fun first🧠 How Boddle "sneaks in" learning content after establishing engaging gameplay💰 The journey from zero users to 10 million through COVID and beyond📊 Why watching actual users beats fancy analytics tools🔑 The monetization breakthrough: understanding kids are the real decision makers🚀 Pivoting from building many games to focusing on the most successful one📱 How Boddle connects with both teachers and parentsChapters:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome00:46 - Origins of Boddle Learning02:08 - Making Education Fun Through Games04:17 - Early Funding and Productization05:36 - Impact of COVID on Growth07:42 - Getting on the White House Educational Resources List08:19 - Server Challenges with Rapid Growth09:04 - Moving to Tulsa for VC Funding10:30 - The "Leaky Bucket" Discovery11:21 - Monetization Challenges13:57 - Finding the Most Popular Game Mode14:51 - The Pet Battle Game Success15:58 - NFT Experiment Mistakes16:52 - Keeping Education in Fun Games18:45 - The Power of Classroom Observation20:47 - First-Time User Experience Issues22:32 - Learning to Sell to Parents Through Kids25:40 - Tapping Into the Entertainment Wallet26:45 - Boddle Bucks and Future Growth27:38 - Impact and Educational ValueReady to transform your child's screen time into learning time? Visit https://www.boddlelearning.com/ to try their educational games that kids actually want to play!

Jun 26, 2025 • 29min
How Feedback Loops Transform Development Efficiency with Ashley Davis
In this enlightening conversation with author Ashley Davis, Matt Watson explores the concept of feedback-driven development and how it shapes effective software engineering practices. Ashley, author of "Bootstrapping Microservices" and the upcoming "The Feedback-Driven Developer," shares valuable insights on how developers can leverage feedback loops to enhance their productivity, make better decisions, and deliver more value to customers. They discuss the shifting landscape of software development in the age of AI, the importance of personal feedback systems, and why understanding product priorities is crucial for modern developers.🔗 Essential Links:🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://fullscaleteam.com/newsletterGet our FREE Ebook: https://fullscaleteam.com/productfirstteamsPowered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/GET THE PRODUCT DRIVEN BOOK: https://productdriven.com/bookAshley Davis on Twitter: @ashleydavis75"Bootstrapping Microservices" book: Manning.com/books/bootstrapping-microservices-with-docker-kubernetes-and-terraform"The Feedback-Driven Developer" (Early Access): Manning.comKey Discussion Points:🔄 The concept of personal feedback loops in the development process🎯 How prioritizing by "value over cost to deliver" leads to better decisions🔍 The critical importance of getting clarity before diving into code🚀 Why prototyping is one of the most effective feedback mechanisms🤖 How AI is shifting the bottleneck from engineering to product decision-making⚠️ The pitfall of "moving fast in the wrong direction" with AI assistance🧩 Techniques for self-review and maintaining working code🏗️ When microservices architecture makes sense (and when it doesn't)Chapters00:00 - Introduction and Welcome00:25 - The Experience of Being a Tech Book Author00:53 - Origins of "The Feedback-Driven Developer" Book02:11 - Defining "Feedback" in Software Development03:52 - The Importance of Understanding Trade-offs05:35 - Ensuring You're Working on the Right Thing07:34 - Getting Feedback on Implementation Approaches09:06 - Clarity as the Fuel of Software Development11:16 - AI's Impact on the Software Development Bottleneck13:13 - Why the Best Developers Think Like Product Owners14:54 - Process Theater vs. Value Delivery16:19 - Building Feedback into Your Development Loop17:23 - Production Monitoring and Performance Feedback19:32 - Key Insights and Aha Moments from the Book22:44 - Developers QA-ing Their Own Code25:21 - When to Use Microservices Architecture27:43 - Book Information and Closing ThoughtsReady to transform your development process with effective feedback systems? Get early access to "The Feedback-Driven Developer" at Manning.com by searching for the book title. New chapters are released every month or two, and the first three chapters are available now. Check the show notes for a special discount code for our listeners!