

Product Driven
Matt Watson
Building software products requires caring more about the product than it does the technology used to build the product. On this podcast, we discuss bringing a product driven mindset to every step of the product development process.
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Jul 15, 2025 • 4min
The Engineering Leadership Book That Actually Shows You How to Build Product-Minded Teams
Product Driven: The Book Launch - A Software Leader's Journey to Creating High-Performance Teams 📚After months of intensive writing and years of industry experience, Matt Watson unveils his groundbreaking book "Product Driven" - a comprehensive guide for engineering leaders seeking to build teams with a genuine product mindset. This isn't just another business book; it's a practical roadmap for transforming how software teams think, work, and deliver value.In this revealing first look, Matt shares the personal journey that led to creating this essential resource for the tech industry. Drawing from his extensive career building and scaling software products, he addresses a critical gap in leadership literature - how to actually build and manage teams that think like product owners, not just code executors.🔗 Essential Resources:Get the Book: https://a.co/d/100RmwCNewsletter: productdriven.comConnect with Matt: https://linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonFull Scale Ventures: https://fullscaleventures.comGet the Offshore Hiring Guide: https://hirefullscale.com/offshore-hiring-guideKey Discussion Points:The evolution from developer conference speech to comprehensive leadership guideWhy product mindset separates high-performing developers from the restThe cultural transformation required for sustainable team successPractical frameworks for engineering leaders to implement immediatelyThe 500-hour writing journey and lessons learnedChapter Timestamps:00:00 - The Big Reveal: First Look at Product Driven00:22 - The Origin Story: From Conference Speech to Book01:30 - The Culture Revolution: Why Leadership Matters02:38 - The Writing Process: 500 Hours of InsightsReady to Transform Your Team? Share your biggest leadership challenge in the comments - what's preventing your developers from thinking like product owners? Let's discuss practical solutions that actually work in real engineering environments.

Jul 10, 2025 • 31min
Rethinking Requirements When Engineers Are No Longer the Bottleneck with Chris Rickard
Breaking Through Requirements Hell: How AI is Revolutionizing Software Development 🚀In this compelling exploration of technological transformation, host Matt Watson connects with Chris Rickard, founder of UserDoc, broadcasting from Vietnam. Their conversation unveils a profound shift happening across the software industry—one where artificial intelligence is fundamentally reshaping the relationship between business stakeholders and development teams.What emerges is a fascinating paradox: as AI accelerates coding capabilities, the critical constraint shifts from "how do we build it?" to "what exactly should we build?" Chris's journey from software engineer to product innovator illustrates this transformation, revealing how traditional bottlenecks are being reimagined through AI-powered requirements management.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!): Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodes Connect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/ Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://fullscaleteam.com/newsletter Get our FREE Ebook: https://fullscaleteam.com/productfirstteams Powered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/ Download the FREE Offshore Hiring Guide: https://hirefullscale.com/offshore-hiring-guideUserDoc: https://userdoc.comChris Rickard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrickard/Key Discussion Points:AI-Powered Requirements Creation: How UserDoc accelerates requirements by 50-70% while maintaining human oversightReverse Engineering Legacy Systems: Converting complex source code (including COBOL) into understandable business featuresThe Shifting Development Bottleneck: Why clarity becomes paramount when AI makes development fasterIntegration with Modern Workflows: Connecting requirements directly to AI coding tools like Cursor and GitHub CopilotChapter Timestamps:00:00 - The Universal Developer Dilemma02:28 - Genesis of UserDoc07:57 - Beyond Product Managers: Who Really Needs This14:40 - Technical Challenges of Code Analysis22:44 - The Great Bottleneck Shift27:04 - Pricing and Market AccessibilityReady to break free from requirements chaos and accelerate your development workflow? The conversation with Chris Rickard reveals a pivotal moment in software development—where AI amplifies human potential rather than replacing it. Share your own requirements management challenges in the comments below. How has AI changed your development process? What bottlenecks are you experiencing as coding becomes more automated?

Jul 3, 2025 • 29min
How Boddle's Product-Driven Approach Built Educational Games That Kids Ask Parents to Buy with Clarence Tan
Learning Through Play: How Boddle Built Educational Games That Kids Actually WantIn this insightful conversation, Matt Watson talks with Clarence Tan, founder and CEO of Boddle Learning, about their journey building educational games that have reached over 10 million users. Clarence shares how they tackled the classic problem of educational games - how to make them as engaging as regular games while maintaining educational value. By creating fun games first and then "sneaking in" learning content, Boddle has found success in the competitive educational technology space.The most valuable lesson? Get out of the office and actually watch users interact with your product. Rather than spending money on complex analytics, the Boddle team discovered their biggest product issues simply by visiting classrooms and observing how kids used their app. Clarence also shares how they eventually cracked the monetization code by understanding that parents were buying subscriptions not because they understood the educational benefits, but because their kids wanted the in-game items.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://newsletter.productdriven.com/Powered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/GET THE PRODUCT DRIVEN BOOK: https://productdriven.com/bookCheck out Boddle here: https://www.boddlelearning.com/Key Discussion Points:🎮 Building educational games that are genuinely fun first🧠 How Boddle "sneaks in" learning content after establishing engaging gameplay💰 The journey from zero users to 10 million through COVID and beyond📊 Why watching actual users beats fancy analytics tools🔑 The monetization breakthrough: understanding kids are the real decision makers🚀 Pivoting from building many games to focusing on the most successful one📱 How Boddle connects with both teachers and parentsChapters:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome00:46 - Origins of Boddle Learning02:08 - Making Education Fun Through Games04:17 - Early Funding and Productization05:36 - Impact of COVID on Growth07:42 - Getting on the White House Educational Resources List08:19 - Server Challenges with Rapid Growth09:04 - Moving to Tulsa for VC Funding10:30 - The "Leaky Bucket" Discovery11:21 - Monetization Challenges13:57 - Finding the Most Popular Game Mode14:51 - The Pet Battle Game Success15:58 - NFT Experiment Mistakes16:52 - Keeping Education in Fun Games18:45 - The Power of Classroom Observation20:47 - First-Time User Experience Issues22:32 - Learning to Sell to Parents Through Kids25:40 - Tapping Into the Entertainment Wallet26:45 - Boddle Bucks and Future Growth27:38 - Impact and Educational ValueReady to transform your child's screen time into learning time? Visit https://www.boddlelearning.com/ to try their educational games that kids actually want to play!

Jun 26, 2025 • 29min
How Feedback Loops Transform Development Efficiency with Ashley Davis
In this enlightening conversation with author Ashley Davis, Matt Watson explores the concept of feedback-driven development and how it shapes effective software engineering practices. Ashley, author of "Bootstrapping Microservices" and the upcoming "The Feedback-Driven Developer," shares valuable insights on how developers can leverage feedback loops to enhance their productivity, make better decisions, and deliver more value to customers. They discuss the shifting landscape of software development in the age of AI, the importance of personal feedback systems, and why understanding product priorities is crucial for modern developers.🔗 Essential Links:🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://fullscaleteam.com/newsletterGet our FREE Ebook: https://fullscaleteam.com/productfirstteamsPowered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/GET THE PRODUCT DRIVEN BOOK: https://productdriven.com/bookAshley Davis on Twitter: @ashleydavis75"Bootstrapping Microservices" book: Manning.com/books/bootstrapping-microservices-with-docker-kubernetes-and-terraform"The Feedback-Driven Developer" (Early Access): Manning.comKey Discussion Points:🔄 The concept of personal feedback loops in the development process🎯 How prioritizing by "value over cost to deliver" leads to better decisions🔍 The critical importance of getting clarity before diving into code🚀 Why prototyping is one of the most effective feedback mechanisms🤖 How AI is shifting the bottleneck from engineering to product decision-making⚠️ The pitfall of "moving fast in the wrong direction" with AI assistance🧩 Techniques for self-review and maintaining working code🏗️ When microservices architecture makes sense (and when it doesn't)Chapters00:00 - Introduction and Welcome00:25 - The Experience of Being a Tech Book Author00:53 - Origins of "The Feedback-Driven Developer" Book02:11 - Defining "Feedback" in Software Development03:52 - The Importance of Understanding Trade-offs05:35 - Ensuring You're Working on the Right Thing07:34 - Getting Feedback on Implementation Approaches09:06 - Clarity as the Fuel of Software Development11:16 - AI's Impact on the Software Development Bottleneck13:13 - Why the Best Developers Think Like Product Owners14:54 - Process Theater vs. Value Delivery16:19 - Building Feedback into Your Development Loop17:23 - Production Monitoring and Performance Feedback19:32 - Key Insights and Aha Moments from the Book22:44 - Developers QA-ing Their Own Code25:21 - When to Use Microservices Architecture27:43 - Book Information and Closing ThoughtsReady to transform your development process with effective feedback systems? Get early access to "The Feedback-Driven Developer" at Manning.com by searching for the book title. New chapters are released every month or two, and the first three chapters are available now. Check the show notes for a special discount code for our listeners!

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Jun 19, 2025 • 33min
Product-Led Growth vs. VC Funding: Lessons from 25 Bootstrapped Startups with John Rush
John Rush, a serial tech entrepreneur and founder of 25 bootstrapped startups, shares his extensive experience in the world of entrepreneurship. He dives into the stark contrasts between bootstrapping and VC funding, emphasizing the value of user experience in product development. Rush reveals his innovative advertising strategies to cut customer acquisition costs and discusses the importance of empathy in understanding user needs. He envisions a sustainable future for bootstrappers, focusing on work-life balance and creating a lasting legacy.

Jun 12, 2025 • 37min
AI Adoption Strategies: Inspiring Developer Teams to Embrace Intelligent Tools with Senad Santic
Senad Santic, owner of Zendev and founder of LinkBound, explores the transformative impact of AI on software development agencies. He discusses how AI tools are reshaping the MVP development landscape and the challenges of diversifying into SaaS products. Santic emphasizes the need for developers to embrace AI with a product-oriented mindset, all while navigating economic pressures and career complexities. He shares effective training strategies and highlights the importance of leadership in adapting to these technological shifts.

Jun 5, 2025 • 29min
Three Core Principles CTOs Use to Create an Engineering Culture that Inspires and Retains Top Talent with John Durrant
Building Human-Centric Engineering Teams: Culture, Motivation, & Purpose 🛠️In this episode of Product Driven, Matt Watson talks with John Durant, founder of Human Centric Engineering, about the critical elements that create high-performing engineering cultures. John explains how mastery, autonomy, and purpose form the foundation of intrinsic motivation for engineers and how courage enables teams to overcome organizational fear. They explore the challenges of Agile implementation, bureaucracy's impact on innovation, and practical approaches to measuring and improving engineering culture. This conversation reveals how small, intentional changes can transform team dynamics and why engineers have more power to shape their work environment than they realize.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://newsletter.productdriven.com/Powered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/Key Discussion Points:The three pillars of intrinsic motivation are mastery, autonomy, and purposeHow Agile became "Frankenstein's monster" after starting with human-centered intentionsThe importance of courage as the foundation for cultural transformationWhy fear is the operating system of many companies and how it limits potentialHow small, bite-sized cultural changes create sustainable improvementThe power engineers have to shape their own work environmentWhy company culture is essentially a collection of habitsChapters:00:00 - Introduction to John Durant and Human-Centric Engineering02:08 - The Agile paradox: from human needs to bureaucracy04:44 - How bureaucracy starts with good intentions but becomes restrictive06:11 - Measuring engineering culture through team experience09:49 - Self-determination theory: mastery, autonomy, and purpose14:38 - Courage as the foundation for cultural improvement19:08 - Creating cultural change through bite-sized initiatives23:10 - Engineers feeling misunderstood and apathetic about change25:39 - The power of hope and finding meaning in engineering work26:46 - Resources for improving engineering culture👉 Ready to transform your engineering culture? Like, subscribe, and share this episode with your team. Visit Human Centric Engineering to access their free culture survey tools and join the conversation about building better engineering environments!

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May 29, 2025 • 29min
AI in QA Testing: How TestChimp is Revolutionizing Software Quality Assurance with Nuwan Samarasekera
Nuwan Samarasekera, the Founder and CEO of TestChimp, discusses the game-changing effects of generative AI on software quality assurance. He emphasizes how AI is transforming traditional testing methods, creating new bottlenecks, and enabling faster development cycles. The conversation highlights the importance of balancing automated processes with human oversight to ensure reliable outcomes. Additionally, Samarasekera explores the seamless integration of user-friendly tools that enhance software testing by allowing both technical and non-technical users to develop effective testing scripts.

May 22, 2025 • 23min
Solving the Hidden Challenges of Growing Engineering Teams at Scale with Gleb Braverman from HackerPulse
🔍 Engineering Visibility: Unlocking Team Performance at Scale with Hacker PulseIn this intellectually stimulating exploration, Matt Watson and Gleb Braverman (Founder & CEO of Hacker Pulse) delve into the universal challenges that emerge when engineering organizations reach critical mass. From identifying "ghost engineers" to optimizing team composition across time zones, discover why seemingly unique organizational challenges are actually common patterns that can be systematically addressed through data-driven insights.This thought-provoking discussion examines the evolutionary challenges engineering organizations face as they scale beyond the natural limits of human supervision. Through Hacker Pulse's research with hundreds of engineering leaders, Gleb reveals that despite each organization believing their challenges are unique, most face identical visibility and optimization problems once team sizes cross critical thresholds. The conversation explores how algorithmic team assembly, natural language analytics, and integrated performance metrics can transform engineering leadership from gut feelings to data-driven decisions.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://fullscaleteam.com/newsletterGet our FREE Ebook: https://fullscaleteam.com/productfirstteamsPowered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/Connect with Gleb Braverman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glebbraverman/Check out HackerPulse here: https://hackerpulse.ioKey Discussion Points:🧠 The critical 70-75 person threshold where visibility problems emerge💡 Transitioning from technical metrics to people-oriented optimization🔄 Using AI-powered team assembly to reduce team formation from weeks to minutes⚡ Detecting workload imbalances and meeting inefficiencies across distributed teams📊 The "ghost engineer" phenomenon and its impact on high-performing teammates🌱 Building a culture of customer centricity through strategic hiring practices🚀 Leveraging natural language queries to transcend static dashboardsChapters:0:00 - Introduction to engineering visibility challenges0:54 - Critical team size thresholds2:11 - Common engineering leadership pain points3:49 - Tools limitations in scaling organizations4:22 - AI-powered team assembly approaches5:22 - Evaluating engineering metrics frameworks8:12 - Identifying and addressing people problems10:20 - Universal engineering management challenges12:33 - The future of engineering analytics15:29 - The "ghost engineer" phenomenon18:05 - Maintaining customer focus at scale20:10 - Upcoming trends in engineering productivityTransform your understanding of engineering productivity beyond individual performance metrics to organizational optimization through this intellectual exploration of how data can illuminate the human dynamics of technical teams. Join our journey into the future of engineering leadership, where visibility at scale becomes the foundation for sustained innovation and operational excellence.

May 20, 2025 • 31min
How Full Scale Ventures Builds Product-Driven Startups with Craig Ferril
Full Scale Ventures Launches & The Power of Venture Studios 🚀In this transformative episode of Product Driven, host Matt Watson introduces his exciting new venture with Craig Ferril—Full Scale Ventures. They dive deep into the concept of venture studios, exploring various models and explaining why they've launched their own. The conversation reveals how their combined expertise in technology, strategy, and operations positions them to create successful startups with significantly lower risk by leveraging global talent and shared resources.Craig Ferril joins Matt Watson as Chief Strategy Officer for Full Scale Ventures, bringing operational excellence and people-focused leadership to complement Matt's product expertise.🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!):Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodesConnect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://fullscaleteam.com/newsletterGet our FREE Ebook: https://fullscaleteam.com/productfirstteamsPowered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/GET THE PRODUCT DRIVEN BOOK: https://productdriven.com/bookEngagePath: https://engagepath.com (Sign up for beta or waitlist)Key Discussion Points:What is a venture studio, and how does it differ from VCs, accelerators, and incubatorsThe advantages of building products with offshore talent at a fraction of US costsWhy traditional VC models often fail founders despite successful exitsIntroduction of their first product: EngagePath—a tool for social sellingHow Full Scale's existing resources provide an "unfair advantage" in startup creationEpisode Chapters:00:07 - Introduction to Full Scale Ventures01:39 - Defining the venture studio model03:31 - Their specific approach to venture building07:55 - Leveraging Full Scale's existing resources10:03 - The talent advantage in global teams13:49 - Problems with traditional VC and PE models17:23 - The rise of "seed strapping" as an alternative22:42 - The perfect partnership chemistry24:19 - Introducing EngagePath, their first product28:49 - Closing thoughts on their exciting journeyAre you intrigued by the venture studio model? Take the next step in your entrepreneurial journey! Visit EngagePath.com to join the waitlist for their first product, or connect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn to explore potential collaboration opportunities. If you're looking to build your software product with experienced teams at affordable rates, check out FullScale.io to see how their global talent model can accelerate your vision into reality. Subscribe to the podcast for upcoming episodes featuring more insights from the venture studio's journey!