

This Is TASTE
Aliza Abarbanel & Matt Rodbard
If you're a fan of smart and lively conversations about food, home cooking, and culture, this is the place. We interview the most interesting characters in the world of food, media, and cookbooks and release episodes several times a month. The program is hosted by TASTE editors Aliza Abarbanel and Matt Rodbard, and is sometimes recorded live at Rizzoli Bookstore in New York City. Visit TASTE online: tastecooking.com
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Jul 4, 2025 • 40min
618: If You Can Kill It, Swamp Dogg Can Cook It
Swamp Dogg, a legendary R&B singer and songwriter known for his unique style and collaborations with icons like Patti LaBelle, dives deep into his culinary passion. He shares incredible stories from touring the segregated South and highlights how food shaped those experiences. His new cookbook, 'If You Can Kill It, I Can Cook It', infuses nostalgia and family recipes, showing how cooking helped him overcome anxiety. With a blend of music and food, Swamp Dogg delivers a heartfelt exploration of his artistic journey.

Jul 2, 2025 • 56min
617: Masala y Maíz Is Rooting Deep in Mexico City
Norma Listman and Saqib Keval, the innovative chefs behind Masala y Maíz in Mexico City, delve into their unique approach to culinary fusion that marries Indian, East African, and Mexican traditions. They discuss their commitment to creating an equitable restaurant environment that prioritizes their workers, as well as the excitement of expanding to a new location. The duo also reflects on their memorable experiences shooting for Chef’s Table and navigating the challenges of cultural authenticity in a social media-driven dining scene.

Jul 1, 2025 • 53min
616: Meet Your New New York Times Restaurant Critic, Ligaya Mishan
Ligaya Mishan, co-chief restaurant critic at The New York Times, shares her journey from the Hungry City column to stepping into a prestigious role. She discusses the vital balance between personal taste and cultural context in reviews, as well as navigating the unique dynamics of NYC's dining scene. The conversation touches on the importance of thorough research, the emotional connections to food, and how the pandemic has transformed eating out. Ligaya also shares favorite running spots and the joy of culinary pleasures, making food critiques feel personal and relatable.

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Jun 30, 2025 • 39min
615: Eddie Huang, an NYC Restaurant Pioneer, Is Back in Town Baby
Eddie Huang, a dynamic writer, chef, and podcast host, shares insights from his culinary adventures and his latest endeavor, Gazebo, a pop-up restaurant in NYC. He dives into the evolving New York dining culture, where atmosphere and music play a crucial role. Eddie discusses blending Taiwanese and American cuisines and emphasizes the importance of quality ingredients. He also explores the impact of social media on Gen Z dining preferences and reminisces about nostalgic food experiences that foster community.

Jun 28, 2025 • 54min
614: Is Substack the Most Exciting Place For Food Writing? Austin Tedesco Has Thoughts.
Today on the show, we have a great conversation with Austin Tedesco. Austin is head of business development at Substack, but we think of him even more as an infinitely curious restaurant superfan. He’s worked as a line cook and dines out with the frequency of our best critics. He writes about it all on his own Substack, Bangers & Jams, and we talk about his journey from NBA reporter to restaurant professional to helping promote the growth of authors on the Substack platform. Is Substack the future of food media? It’s still early to say, and Austin gives some insight into how it all works. Read: Knife myths and realitiesSUPPORT A FEW OF OUR FAVORITE FOOD SUBSTACKS:SnaxshotThe Party CutDavid Lebovitz La BriffeSweet CityHome Cook with Karolyn PhoVittlesEverything CookbooksThe AngelRobert Sietsema's New YorkNonglutenA Newsletter by Alison RomanExpress CheckoutKitchen ProjectsCake ZineFood Time with Matt RodbardSubscribe to This Is TASTE: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 27, 2025 • 48min
613: Food Is Funny with Former Simpsons Showrunner Bill Oakley
It was a lot of fun having Bill Oakley in the studio. Bill is a writer and “professional food enthusiast,” as he says. He’s also a former head writer for The Simpsons and has also written for The Cleveland Show and Portlandia and created the series Mission Hill. We loved talking with Bill about all kinds of food topics and his latest obsessions. We discuss writing food into memorable episodes of The Simpsons and his unique way of touring the country for highly entertaining live events. Bill is a real original.And, at the top of the show, it’s the return of Three Things, where Aliza and Matt talk about what is exciting them in the world of restaurants, cookbooks, and the food world as a whole. On this episode: Larry's Ca Phe does refreshing matcha right, Chicago's Lula Cafe served the perfect asparagus dish, Aliza visited L'Industrie Pizzeria for the first time, Gary He, author of McAtlas, was on fire at the James Beard Awards. Also: Aliza is reading Butter: A Novel of Food and Murder, and Matt had a great time at The Great Nosh and recaps the amazing food.Subscribe to This Is TASTE: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 25, 2025 • 42min
612: Radio Bakery’s Kelly Mencin Rises to Meet the Hype
Kelly Mencin is the pastry chef and co-owner of Radio Bakery, a cult-followed destination for filled croissants and focaccia sandwiches with two locations in Brooklyn. Radio’s offerings—and its lines—are legendary, and today on the show Kelly talks about opening Rolo’s, transitioning to Radio, and their continued efforts to try and meet demand.Get your tickets to our live event on July 23 at the Bell House in Brooklyn. Featuring conversations with Padma Lakshmi, Hailee Catalano & Chuck Cruz, and a live taping of Bon Appétit Bake Club with Jesse Szewczyk and Shilpa Uskokovic. Ticket sales benefit One Love Community Fridge.Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 23, 2025 • 1h 7min
611: From Bahrain to Ottolenghi to the World with Noor Murad
Noor Murad is a Bahrain-born, New York–trained, London-based chef and the author of the wonderful new cookbook Lugma. You may know her recipes from her time running the Ottolenghi Test Kitchen and contributing to the books Falastin, Shelf Love, and Extra Good Things. Now it’s time to get to know Noor herself through this delicious collection of traditional and re-imagined dishes from Bahrain and beyond.Also on the show we catch up with Brian Voll, the creative force behind the innovative cookbook series Menus By Brian.Get your tickets to our live event on July 23 at the Bell House in Brooklyn. Featuring conversations with Padma Lakshmi, Hailee Catalano & Chuck Cruz, and a live taping of Bon Appétit Bake Club with Jesse Szewczyk and Shilpa Uskokovic. Ticket sales benefit One Love Community Fridge. Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 20, 2025 • 51min
610: Big Flavors, Banned Words, and 20 Years at Condé Nast with Bon Appétit’s Chris Morocco
It was so much fun having Chris Morocco in the studio for a wide-ranging conversation about cooking, media, and his nearly two decades working at Condé Nast. Chris is the food director of Bon Appétit and Epicurious, overseeing the test kitchen team and the recipes they develop. In this episode, we go back to Chris’s early career working at Vogue before landing an assistant job in the BA Test Kitchen. We go over how he currently leads the team and how they think about seasonality, taste, and getting people to cook more in this rapidly changing world. We’re big fans of Chris’s work, and it was exciting speaking with him.We're hosting a really cool live podcast event in Brooklyn on July 23, featuring Padma Lakshmi, Hailee Catalano & Chuck Cruz, and a live taping of Bon Appétit Bake Club with Jesse Szewczyk and Shilpa Uskokovic, visit the Bell House website.Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 18, 2025 • 1h 17min
609: Dan Giusti Is Bringing Restaurant Chefs Into School Cafeterias
Dan Giusti is the founder and CEO of Brigaid, an organization bringing restaurant chefs to school cafeterias and senior centers. Formerly the head chef at Noma, he’s now dedicated to providing delicious and healthy meals to 40 institutions across the country. This year alone, Brigaid expects to serve over a million meals. It’s so special to have Dan in the studio to talk about growing up on Italian American classics, pivoting from Noma to Brigaid, and how all the work happens.Also on the show we have a terrific conversation with Adrian Miller. He’s the author of a groundbreaking new book: Cooking to the President’s Taste: Asian Heritage Chefs in White House History. We talk about how lesser-known Asian chefs have helped shape the food in the White House, and possibly policy.Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We’d love to hear from you. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.