

The Optimal Body
Dr Jen Fraboni & Dr Dom Fraboni
Join top-40 Physical Therapy Influencer, Doc Jen, and her Physical Therapy husband Dr. Dom, as they bring you the body tips and PT Pearls you need to help you understand your body, relieve your pains and restrictions, and answer your questions. Along with expert guests, the goal of The Optimal Body is to help you discover what optimal means in your own body.
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Mar 23, 2022 • 48min
191 | Understanding Hormone Health and Getting off Birth Control with Sarah Grace Meckelberg
Wanting to come off birth control? Struggling to find a diet that works for you? Hoping to optimize hormone health? We've got Sarah Grace, dietitian, and licensed nutritionist, on to explore the realms of nutrition and how it relates to hormone health, birth control, and PCOS. With an emphasis on steps to compiling reliable and credible advice, Sarah describes whether or not intermittent fasting and the keto diet are beneficial for women. Through this discussion, she discusses optimal sources of carbohydrates and the truth around birth control. With masking effects of birth control, Sarah shares how birth control may be perpetuating the root causes of different symptoms and diagnoses. In light of getting to the root cause, Sarah provides her best tips on how you can optimize your physiology, while on birth control, and what to focus on coming off birth control. She dives into what the anti-inflammatory diet consists of and what lab/ blood tests to look into if you are wanting to approach your hormonal health. Finally, she dabbles into the world of supplements and its role in the birth control process.
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What You Will Learn in this Interview with
:
4:37 - How to combat the misinformation on the internet?
6:32 - Are they diets that can be harmful to women?
11:51 - Sources of smart carbs
14:11 - Why nutrition and educating online?
19:17 - The truth around birth control
22:28 - Wanting to get off birth control & approaching the root cause
27:30 - How to start optimizing your hormone health?
22:56 - Anti-inflammatory Diet
37:47 - Labs & blood work for hormone dysregulation
38:58 - Supplements to help to go off birth control
42:29- Recommendations for reputable companies
Items mentioned:
Sarah's Website
Sarah's Podcast: Real SOULutions
Sarah's Tik Tok
Sarah's Instagram
To learn more about Sarah and view full show notes, please visit the full website here: https://jen.health/podcast/191
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Mar 21, 2022 • 22min
190 | 3 Key Factors When Dealing with Sciatica
Are you someone who deals with pain and tingling sensations that run down your leg? Been diagnosed with Sciatica, but don’t know where to start? Then you are definitely going to want to tune in to this episode as Dr. Jen and Dr. Dom dive into what Sciatica ism potential causes and what you can do to begin to desensitize your nerve symptoms. They share three main focusses to approaching Sciatica, diving into simple lifestyle changes you can make in order to help you live your most optimal life!
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Vivohealth Foot Health Hub:
Reconnect to your more natural self. Vivohealth hub is a growing body of courses and experiences that guide you through the joys of moving more naturally. The hub includes content from natural health experts! Check out the Vivohealth Barefoot Courses and assessments.
What You Will Learn In This PT Pearl:
03:08 - What Sciatica is & potential causes
05:15 - How to desensitize your nerve symptoms
11:34 - Steps to creating safety within the body
20:26 - Best 3 tips for Sciatica
Watch Episode 190 on Youtube
For research and full show notes, visit the full website at: https://jen.health/podcast/190
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Mar 16, 2022 • 47min
189 | Understanding how the Whole Body Contributes to Chronic Pain with Dr. Perry Nickelston
Feel like your health is compromised even though you've got nutrition, hydration, sleep, movement, stress? Nothing helping your chronic conditions? Dr. Perry shares a different perspective and approach to optimizing health. One that may be simpler, yet not emphasized enough. Dr. Perry shares the origins of his practice and how his practice has evolved as he learned more about how all the systems are truly integrated. Expanding beyond the exact pain point, Dr. Perry shines light on the lymphatic system as a system that connects the whole. With a common focus on nutrient delivery and doing more to see successful results, Dr. Perry shares how less is more and how it may be worth looking at the elimination phase of cellular health. Explaining fundamental physiology, Dr. Perry touches base with the importance of order, nasal breathing, the diaphragm m movement, and stress. With small bouts of tips, Dr, Perry shares the significance of the lymphatic system and how it can be your secret to truly optimizing your health. Finally, he explores the realms of paradigm shifts in pain science, how pain can perpetuate itself with psychological influences, and how pain and inflammation closely relate to efficient and adequate elimination. Let's take a trip down the lymphatic system!
What You Will Learn in this Interview with Dr Nickelston
:
4:32 - Is the pain point really the trouble area?
8:31 - Changing the narrative on what pain communicates
10:50 - Thinking about elimination to prevent sickness
13:01 - The importance of order
14:36 - 4 steps to begin addressing your lymphatic system
20:32 - How to know if you’re breathing through your diaphragm
26:59 - How breathing differently impacts our pain
32:39 - How has Dr. Perry’s practice evolved?
37:25 - Paradigm shifts in pain science
41:23 - The pain-fear cycle: anticipation, self-fulfilling prophecy, pain focus
44:47 - Learn more with Dr. Perry!
Items mentioned:
Stop Chasing Pain Website
Stop Chasing Pain Instagram
Dr. Perry Nickelston's Youtube
To learn more about Dr. Perry and view full show notes, please visit the full website here: https://jen.health/podcast/189
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Mar 14, 2022 • 22min
188 | Got foot pain? Is it Morton's Neuroma?
Feeling tingling, numbness, radiating pain in your heel? Could it be Morton Neuroma? DocJen & Dr. Dom explain what Morton’s Neuroma is and the different grades of nerve-related symptoms that could be explained. They describe a few potential causes of Neuroma, including types of footwear or trauma to the foot. Utilizing research, they explain how MRI images may not correlate or confirm symptoms, and how treatment typically surrounds changing footwear, building ankle and foot mobility and strength, promoting relaxation in the foot, and addressing sources of persistent inflammation. Finally, they explain foot exercises to try. Let’s dive in!
VivoBarefoot Discount
Reconnect to your more natural self. Vivohealth hub is a growing body of courses and experiences that guide you through the joys of moving more naturally. The hub includes content from natural health experts! Check out the Vivohealth Barefoot Courses and assessments.
**Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund.
What You Will Learn In This PT Pearl:
01:59 - What is Morton's Neuroma?
03:33 - Nerve-related symptoms
05:41 - Potential causes of Neuroma
07:22 - MRI’s do not necessarily confirm symptoms
08:09 - Potential Treatments
11:07 - Exercises to implement
12:28 - Addressing inflammatory conditions
14:49 - Tools to promote relaxation in the foot
17:05 - Foot exercises to try
Watch Episode 188 on Youtube
For research and full show notes, visit the full website at: https://jen.health/podcast/188
Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast. If you haven’t done so already, please take a minute to subscribe and leave a quick rating and review of the show! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mar 9, 2022 • 35min
187 | Fulfillment through Food with Hollan Hawaii
Thinking about eating more plant-based? Hollan explores the realm of vegan eating and how it can manifest in enhanced awareness and connection within your body. With 15 years of experience eating vegan, Hollan emphasizes that her journey continues to evolve and change over time. As she shares what inspired her passion for food, Hollan shares her best tips to giving vegan eating a try and how you can begin to make substitutes. She describes the changes she felt in her body with energy, mood, and overall health, and how she loved food while being healthy. She hones in on trusting the process and giving the body time to adapt to changes in food intake and how she progressed from a state of "not health" to "health." Finally, she speaks to the short-term changes you may feel when you first switch to vegan eating and the best type of oils to use. Let's dive into the world of plant-based eating!
What You Will Learn in this Interview with
:
2:42 - What drove Hollan’s passion for food?
5:30 - How does Hollan love food so much and be super healthy?
8:01 - Hate vegetables? How to make vegan eating more accessible?
10:50 - How did Hollan switch to becoming vegan & what changed within Hollan’s body?
15:34 - Basic switches to move towards plant-based eating
18:25 - Taking the time to actually try a diet change
21:51 - What Hollan changed to get to a state of “not health” to “ health” for Hollan?
23:50 - Changes when you switch up the way you're eating?
27:04 - Best types of oils to use & Hollan's vegan ranch
32:29 - Learn more with Hollan
Items mentioned:
Hollan's Website
Hollan's Instagram
Hollan's Blog
To learn more about Hollan and view full show notes, please visit the full website here: https://jen.health/podcast/187
Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast. If you haven’t done so already, please take a minute to subscribe and leave a quick rating and review of the show! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mar 7, 2022 • 18min
186 | I'm so flexible, but why do I feel so tight?
Flexible, but still tight? DocJen & Dr. Dom discuss tests and ways to determine if you are hypermobile, speaking into the spectrum of hypermobility that ranges from localized to Elhers-Danlos Syndrome. Explaining the neurophysiology of tightness briefly, they dive into how you can reduce the sensation of tightness through strength, using examples to relieve tightness in the hamstrings, inner thighs, chest, quadriceps, and hip flexor tightness. They provide a few tips for passive stretching, yoga, and hypermobility, and discuss how mindful breathing can support tightness relief.
What You Will Learn In This PT Pearl:
03:11 - How do you know if you are hypermobile
04:25 - Spectrum of Hypermobility
05:15 - Elhers-Danlos Syndrome
07:25 - How to reduce the tightness sensation?
08:08 - TIghtness in hamstrings?
11:29 - Tightness at inner thighs?
12:50 - Awareness with yoga postures
13:38 - Tightness in pec areas?
14:40 - Quad Tightness?
15:24 - Hip Flexor Tightness
16:18 - Reduce tension in the body with mindful breathing
Watch Episode 186 on Youtube
For research and full show notes, visit the full website at: https://jen.health/podcast/186
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Mar 2, 2022 • 47min
185 | Overcoming Chronic Pain and Double Disc Herniations with Andrew Dettelbach
Struggling with Chronic Pain? Debilitating pain keeping you from getting on with your daily life? Find yourself really flexible? Andrew walks the path of his EDS diagnosis, and how his chronic pain and many injuries took up the majority of his experience in sport from a young age. We take a peek through Andrew's perspectives on pain, whether or not it makes him want to stop moving, and his experience with his Herniated Disc. With Sciatica pain in both legs, Andrew speaks to how his treatment journey changed and progressed from the time of diagnosis. Andrew dives into some heavy-hitter recommendations to approaching movement with EDS and the importance of gaining control over extreme ranges of motion. Through the ridgid-hypermobile spectrum, he speaks to exploring the happy medium between the two to move the most optimally for you! Finally, he touches base with mindfulness as a main component to navigating pain. Instead of meditation or journaling, Andrew shares his conscious practice of mindfulness. With that, comes permission and a strong meditation to find time to downregulate and enter a true state of play. Tune in!
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What You Will Learn in this Interview with Andrew Dettelbach:
4:03 - How Andrew approached having experienced chronic pain since 5
6:57 - What is EDS and is it related to chronic, systemic pain
10:00 - Did Andrew’s pain make him want to stop moving & is the brain becomes less sensitive to pain response
14:03 - Andrew’s Disc Herniation
12:37 - Focusing on the small wins
23:43 - Physical therapy & how Andrew progressed through his exercises
28:44 - Debunking the myths & what Andrew recommends
31:48- Addressing flexibility without control
37:10 -How Andrew defines mindfulness & how it helps his pain experience
44:24 - Whealth
Items mentioned:
Spread Whealth Website: Andrew's Programs
Spread Whealth Instagram
To learn more about Andrew and view full show notes, please visit the full website here: https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/episode185/
Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast. If you haven’t done so already, please take a minute to subscribe and leave a quick rating and review of the show! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feb 28, 2022 • 22min
184 | Our 4 Favorite Breath Exericses
Want to start breathwork, but don’t know where to start? DocJen & Dr. Dom present 4 different breath exercises: variations of box breathing, extended breathing, the one-minute reset, and Wim Hoff Breathing. They dive into how to perform these exercises, how these different exercises can be advantageous, how breathing can be beneficial in mobility, and how breathing can optimize CO2 tolerance, especially done nasally. Let’s dive into breath work!
30 Days of Strength and Mobility Discount:
We’re focussing on Strength & Mobility this time around. DocJen is going to show up with you every day for 30 days to open up your mobility, build consistency, re-coordinate your core, and build some true strength. We’re getting to the roots of form and the body, moving you forward to feel something different. Grab a special podcast discount using code OPTIMAL20 at checkout! Join us before it’s too late!
What You Will Learn In This PT Pearl:
02:49 - Box Breathing
05:01 - Modulating stress/relax response with inhalers & exhales
06:19 - Extending breaths
08:08 - How to Box breath
10:38 - The One Minute Reset
11:36 - How to access the diaphragm & improving mobility
15:21 - Holotropic/ Wim Hoff Breathing
18:42 - Why breathing practices are important - CO2 tolerance
20:38 - Nasal Breathing
Watch Episode 184 on Youtube
For research and full show notes, visit the full website at: https://jen.health/podcast/184
Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast. If you haven’t done so already, please take a minute to subscribe and leave a quick rating and review of the show! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feb 23, 2022 • 40min
183 | Healing Bunions, Plantar Fasciitis and more with Functional Podiatrist, Dr. Emily
Are Bunions genetic? How does functional podiatry differ from traditional podiatry? Dr. Emily walks the path of bunions, plantar fasciitis, and other foot conditions through the lens of functional podiatry, She begins by explaining the importance of educating individuals about orthotics and the general foot types. Then, she explains how foot structure is not necessarily related to symptoms and whether or not your foot condition is genetic. By discussing the importance of spending more time barefoot and exposing the feet to different structures to optimize neurological feedback, she dives into how the nervous system manifests in the feet, how training function is beneficial, and the role emotions play in feet’ health. Let’s get your feet functional!
30 Days of Strength and Mobility:
We’re focussing on Strength & Mobility this time around. DocJen is going to show up with you every day for 30 days to open up your mobility, build consistency, re-coordinate your core, and build some true strength. We’re getting to the roots of form and the body, moving you forward to feel something different. Grab a special podcast discount using code OPTIMAL20 at checkout! Join us before it’s too late!
VivoBarefoot Discount
A study showed a 60% increase in foot strength by wearing VivoBarefoot shoes for 6 months consistently. They are shoes that work with your feet and not against them. Try them out and invest in your health. Use code ‘TOB‘ to get 15% off!
**Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund.
What You Will Learn in this Interview with Dr. Emily:
3:08 - What is a functional podiatrist?
4:57 - What is a functional podiatrist?
6:44 - How to educate individuals out of orthotics
8:44 - Dr. Emily’s Foot Self-assessment
10:06 - Three types of feet: a starting place
11:11 - Disregarding the term “flat feet”
13:32 - Are your foot issues genetic?
16:11- Dr. Emily’s advice on preventing bunions when familial
19:02 - Treating function, structure, or both for bunions
22:34 - Toe & Spacers Naboso Technology for foot health
24:58 - Sensory ability with feet
27:52 - Barefoot Strong Book
30:43 - How emotions play a role in foot health
35:57 - Nervous system manifestations in the feet
36:56 - Learn more with Dr Emily
Items mentioned:
Barefoot Strong
Nabosos
Dr. Emily's Website
Dr. Emily's Instagram
To learn more about Dr. Emily and view full show notes, please visit the full website here: https://jen.health/podcast/183
Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast. If you haven’t done so already, please take a minute to subscribe and leave a quick rating and review of the show! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feb 21, 2022 • 43min
182 | How to Be There For Someone During Tragic Loss
Unsure of what to say to someone going through trauma or loss? Following on from last week’s episode on what DocJen & Dr. Dom wish they’d known, going through a miscarriage. they discuss how to be there for someone during a tragic loss. From getting professional help with therapy to receiving support from those who have been through it, DocJen & Dr. Dom hone in on the uniqueness and subjectivity of tragic loss and how you support it, but from a place of comfort and acknowledgment. Using language to support healing, they emphasize providing space for the individual going through loss to approach you instead of providing unsolicited advice. They hone in on what may not be advantageous to say and how loss may persist and it’s about learning to navigate light with a loss potentially being a part of you. By highlighting setting up a healing environment, they discuss differences in approaching the healing process, barriers, and the impact of toxic positivity on the grieving process. As an individual who may be going through loss, communicate your needs to support your healing process.
30 Days of Strength and Mobility:
30 Days of Strength and Mobility! We’re focussing on Strength & Mobility this time around. DocJen is going to show up with you every day for 20 days to open up your mobility, build consistency, re-coordinate your core, and build some true strength. We’re getting to the roots of form and the body, moving you forward to feel something different. Through these shownotes, you'll still be able to get a special discount using code OPTIMAL20 at checkout! Come Join Our Community and Get Strong!
What You Will Learn In This PT Pearl:
03:28 - Getting through the psychological with therapy
05:20 - Support from those who have been through it
06:36 - Everyone has their own, unique traumatic experience
08:00 - What to say to someone experiencing loss
13:52 - Resources
15:10 - Let them know they don’t need to respond
17:06 - Self-advocacy: Let them come to you
19:06 - What not to say to someone experiencing loss
22:09 - It’s not about the pain going away
23:22 - Getting through Physical and emotional reminders & setting up a healing environment
30:04 - Different people process differently
33:25 - Bringing up barriers does not help
34:50 - Toxic Positivity & Grieving
36:36 - Other ways to let them know you’re thinking about them
Watch Episode 182 on Youtube
For research and full show notes, visit the full website at: https://jen.health/podcast/182
Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast. If you haven’t done so already, please take a minute to subscribe and leave a quick rating and review of the show! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


