
People vs Algorithms
Uncovering patterns of change in media, culture, and technology, each week media veterans Brian Morrissey, Alex Schleifer and Troy Young break down stuff that matters.
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Nov 16, 2023 • 55min
The New Interface
This podcast explores the potential interface shifts in augmented reality, the power of large language models like GPTs, the monetization strategy of OpenAI, the changing nature of advertising, the future form factor of phones, the significance of gaming in the cultural economy, and the discussion on Nintendo Switch and Steam Deck.

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Nov 9, 2023 • 1h 10min
Will Brands Still Matter?
The podcast discusses the decline of brands, especially in the media industry, due to the arrival of AI. It explores the value and challenges of brands in modern business, the impact of AI on brands, and the future of brands in the digital age. The hosts also touch on topics such as Apple's AI presentation, the revival of Microsoft, and the impact of AI on legacy brands. Overall, they debate the economic value and importance of brands in an increasingly AI-driven world.

Nov 2, 2023 • 52min
Gen Z Is Built Different
The podcast explores generational divides and perspectives, discussing the impact of Gen Z and the concept of happiness. It also delves into the challenges faced by media company employees in terms of transparency and unionization, retirement community activities, generational activism, the complexity of identity politics, and happy hour experiences in retirement communities.

Oct 26, 2023 • 1h 2min
The Information Space
The podcast discusses the decentralized information space and the changing role of the media. It explores the perception and popularity of video games, the challenges of consuming news, and the evolution of journalism. The importance of trust, transparency, and rebuilding credibility is emphasized. The chapter also touches on the future of news, media literacy, and the impact of social media platforms. Lastly, the hosts share their fascination with candles and signature scents, considering them for their business model.

Oct 19, 2023 • 51min
More With Less
On this episode, the hosts discuss the distortions caused by the tech and media industries, the impact of AI on businesses, the struggles and successes of media companies like New York Times, the decline of public social media, and the pressure to achieve a billion-dollar exit in the tech industry.

Oct 12, 2023 • 1h
Chris Kimball Says Screw the Algorithm
Christopher Kimball, creator of Cooks Country and America’s Test Kitchen, discusses why media needs to go back to basics to build lasting brands. Topics include the dangers of algorithms, the importance of selling valuable content, brand loyalty, advertising, and culinary delights.

Oct 5, 2023 • 51min
Product People
Discussions include challenges of non-product people in leadership positions, the importance of taste and passion in running a successful business, insights from Elon Musk on product development approach, questioning requirements and knowing the person behind them, agency world and Brian Chesky, future of Yahoo and CNN, and the importance of napping and product recommendations.

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Sep 28, 2023 • 1h 29min
Bustle's Bryan Goldberg on the Post-Scale Era
Bryan Goldberg discusses the limitations of the scale era in digital media and the importance of strong brands. They explore challenges faced by traditional magazine brands, the rise of TikTok, and the impact of Google. They highlight the importance of understanding distribution, building brands, and optimizing revenue. They also discuss the shift towards AI filters and the challenges of monetizing media. Additionally, they talk about the importance of inviting diverse individuals to parties and express doubts about launching new brands in the digital media landscape.

Sep 21, 2023 • 1h 19min
Misaligned Media
The podcast discusses misaligned incentives in media, from publishers facing challenges serving advertisers and the audience, to the rise of platforms prioritizing self-interest. It also explores controversial decisions such as Unity's new payment model and the challenges of model change and competing ad networks. The difficulties of media shift and labor unions are highlighted, along with the decline of the CPM ad model and the need for innovation. The origins of traditional media formats and the desire for authentic conversations are explored.

Sep 14, 2023 • 59min
Dismembering Disney
This week, we discuss the rebundling, with a focus on the future of pay TV and why tech companies will inevitably be the rebundlers with media companies the rebundled.Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletterBrian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletterAlex Schleifer's Universal EntitiesFollow Alex, Brian and Troy on Twitter This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com