
Incubation
Incubation is a show about how viruses attack people – and how people fight back. This season, we talk to a scientist who fought the spread of Ebola while risking his life. We learn how a ubiquitous virus causes cancer and multiple sclerosis. And we hear how a mosquito-borne virus helped defend an empire. Stories of discovery, heartbreak, and heroic nerds drop weekly on Thursdays starting October 17th.
Latest episodes

Dec 5, 2024 • 30min
The Viral Universe Inside Us
Ken Stedman, a biology professor at Portland State University, dives into the intriguing world of undiscovered viruses, revealing groundbreaking findings about their diversity in extreme environments. Shiraz Shah, a senior researcher at Copenhagen University Hospital, unveils the surprising connection between gut viruses in infancy and the risk of childhood asthma. Together, they explore the vast viral ecosystems within us and how these little-known agents can significantly shape our health, challenging existing ideas about our microbiome.

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Nov 26, 2024 • 30min
Measles: The Cancer Killer?
Michael Mina, a former Harvard epidemiologist and current chief scientific officer at eMed, reveals the surprising impact of measles on the immune system, leading to what's called 'immune amnesia.' He discusses how measles can weaken immune responses and increase vulnerability to other diseases. Stephen Russell, co-founder of Vyriad and a former Mayo Clinic researcher, shares innovative approaches using the measles virus to target cancer cells, exploring this exciting frontier of virotherapy and its potential benefits for cancer treatment.

Nov 21, 2024 • 33min
Mosquitoes, Viruses and the History of the World
In this engaging discussion, Noah Rose, an ecologist specializing in mosquito behavior, teams up with historian John McNeill, author of 'Mosquito Empires'. They explore how mosquitoes adapted to humans, evolving into major disease vectors. The duo delves into the historical impact of yellow fever on military campaigns and the broader implications of mosquito-borne diseases on societal changes in the Americas. Their insights reveal the delicate balance of nature and human intervention, showcasing how these tiny insects have truly shaped history.

Nov 14, 2024 • 29min
HIV: Racing to Identify a Killer
After four decades of dedicated research on HIV, scientists have made extraordinary progress in treating the disease. But we still don’t have a vaccine or a cure. On today’s show, we’re joined by two veteran scientists who have dedicated their careers to HIV research. First up is Christine Rouzioux, a virologist from the Nobel Prize winning team of scientists who first identified the HIV virus. For the second half of the show we talk with Richard Koup from the National Institutes of Health, who explains why it’s so hard to create an HIV vaccine.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 7, 2024 • 32min
Shingles: The Mystery of Pain
Ann Arvin, professor emerita at Stanford Medical School, and Robert Johnson, a physician and researcher at the University of Bristol, delve into the perplexing link between chickenpox and shingles. They recount a riveting detective story from the 1950s that clarified this connection. Arvin emphasizes the importance of vaccination in preventing severe outcomes, while Johnson shares his insights on treating long-term pain caused by shingles. Together, they explore the complexities of shingles, its symptoms, and the biopsychosocial approach to pain management.

Oct 31, 2024 • 29min
Epstein-Barr Virus: The Fog of Discovery
Joined by Dorothy Crawford, a retired professor and co-author of "Cancer Virus," and Bill Robinson, a Stanford immunology expert, the conversation dives into the Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) and its hidden dangers. Crawford reveals how pioneering research uncovered EBV's connection to cancer, reshaping our understanding of viruses. Robinson discusses his groundbreaking work linking EBV to multiple sclerosis and other autoimmune diseases, highlighting the complex immunological mechanisms at play. They challenge us to rethink our views on viral infections and long-term health implications.

Oct 24, 2024 • 28min
Ebola: Preventing the Next Pandemic
Christian Happi, Director of the African Center of Excellence for Genomics of Infectious Diseases, shares firsthand insights from the 2014 Ebola outbreak in Nigeria. He recounts how timely public health measures led to controlling only 20 cases. The conversation explores innovative pathogen detection methods like CRISPR and emphasizes the critical need for community engagement in health crises. Happi and fellow expert Pardis Sabeti discuss their collaborative efforts and strategies for future pandemic preparedness, highlighting the importance of effective disease surveillance.

Oct 17, 2024 • 28min
Rabies: When Monsters are Real
Monica Murphy, a veterinarian and co-author of "Rabid," shares the chilling cultural history of rabies, linking it to vampires and werewolves. She discusses our enduring nightmares about the disease and how they affected public perception. Wildlife biologist Kathy Nelson then details an innovative aerial vaccination program targeting raccoon rabies, employing bait dropped from airplanes. Together, they explore the balance between wildlife management and public health, revealing fascinating insights into both the disease and the cleverness of raccoons.

Oct 10, 2024 • 2min
Introducing Incubation Season 2
Incubation Season 2 begins October 17th.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 26, 2023 • 30min
Phages: Bacteria’s Worst Nightmare
Author Tom Ireland joins the show to discuss the fascinating world of bacteriophages, also known as phages. Ben Chan tells the story of putting phages to use in a high-stakes case. Can phages help us fight antibiotic-resistant infections?
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