
The Body of Evidence
Dr. Christopher Labos and guests use the body of evidence to go beyond science and medicine headlines and hype. All to help you develop your critical thinking skills so that when you google your symptoms, you won't believe you’re going to die tomorrow.
The Body of Evidence is your weekly dose of clarity on complex health topics and the often-sketchy medical information found online. Hosted by cardiologist Dr. Christopher Labos and featuring a rotating cast of co-hosts and guests, this podcast brings you engaging interviews, original reporting, and humour-filled commentaries to help you navigate the world of medicine. Episodes tackle everything from debunking misinformation to exploring the reality of certain conditions to the effectiveness of social media medical trends. With an extensive archive dating back to 2015,The Body of Evidence is your go-to source for understanding science and medicine and developing critical thinking about your health.
Latest episodes

Jun 11, 2025 • 35min
141 – Teaching kids how to navigate social media
Stephanie Simoes is back to tell us about her new social media simulator, a kid-friendly mock social media feed filled with clickbait, logical fallacies, and dubious claims. The goal of the simulator is to teach kids how to surf the web safely and identify scams, tricks and fake news. Also, she throws a few more riddles Dr. Chris’ way. Become a supporter of our show today either on Patreon or through PayPal! Thank you! http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/ https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=9QZET78JZWCZE Email us your questions at thebodyofevidence@gmail.com. Editor: Robyn Flynn Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl Rod of Asclepius designed by Kamil J. Przybos Chris’ book, Does Coffee Cause Cancer?: https://ecwpress.com/products/does-coffee-cause-cancer Obviously, Chris is not your doctor (probably). This podcast is not medical advice for you; it is what we call information.

May 28, 2025 • 50min
140 – Cholesterol denialism with Unbiased Science
Sarah Scheinman, host of the Unbiased Science podcast, brings a keen scientific perspective to the debate around cholesterol denialism. The conversation explores the puzzling evolution of skepticism towards cholesterol science, including a look at infamous skeptics and their influence. They humorously critique classic literature while discussing the complexities of cholesterol, statin effectiveness, and the historical context of cholesterol research. The episode highlights the challenges of changing entrenched beliefs in health and science today.

May 21, 2025 • 54min
139 – Explaining the carnivore diet

May 14, 2025 • 1h 6min
138 – Can vitamin D treat multiple sclerosis?
A new study claims that vitamin D can treat multiple sclerosis. But is this trial groundbreaking or an outlier? Dr. Chris Labos finds that the answer is far more complicated than a simple “yes” or “no”. Become a supporter of our show today either on Patreon or through PayPal! Thank you! http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/ https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=9QZET78JZWCZE Email us your questions at thebodyofevidence@gmail.com. Editor: Robyn Flynn Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl Rod of Asclepius designed by Kamil J. Przybos Chris’ book, Does Coffee Cause Cancer?: https://ecwpress.com/products/does-coffee-cause-cancer Obviously, Chris is not your doctor (probably). This podcast is not medical advice for you; it is what we call information. References: The D-Lay MS randomized trial: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2831270 The Mendelian Randomization study of vitamin D https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/NXG.0000000000000097 The early 2012 study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22354743/ The SOLAR study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31594857/ The CHOLINE study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31454777/ The VIDAMS study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37125397/ The 2024 study on clinically isolated syndrome: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38085047/

May 7, 2025 • 57min
137 - What Grey’s Anatomy got right, and really wrong
Grey’s Anatomy had a lot of fascinating medical cases… in between all the sex and work drama. After investing 20 years of her life watching the show, guest co-host Robyn Flynn puts some of the weirdest cases she’s ever seen on the show to Dr. Chris Labos to find out which ones were based on real cases, which were absolutely impossible, and which ones had valuable teaching lessons built in. Become a supporter of our show today either on Patreon or through PayPal! Thank you! http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/ https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=9QZET78JZWCZE Email us your questions at thebodyofevidence@gmail.com. Editor: Robyn Flynn Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl Rod of Asclepius designed by Kamil J. Przybos Chris’ book, Does Coffee Cause Cancer?: https://ecwpress.com/products/does-coffee-cause-cancer Obviously, Chris is not your doctor (probably). This podcast is not medical advice for you; it is what we call information.

Apr 30, 2025 • 40min
136 - Does acupuncture work?

Apr 23, 2025 • 51min
135 – Seed oils vs. beef tallow, with Unbiased Science
Is beef tallow a healthier alternative to seed oils? Why have seed oils become the latest diet villain? And how did we get to the point that people are walking into restaurants with their own beef tallow and asking for chefs to cook with that instead? In this special collaborative episode with the Unbiased Science podcast, Dr. Chris Labos speaks with Drs. Jessica Steier and Sarah Scheinman about the state of food science. Become a supporter of our show today either on Patreon or through PayPal! Thank you! http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/ https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=9QZET78JZWCZE Email us your questions at thebodyofevidence@gmail.com. Editor: Robyn Flynn Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl Rod of Asclepius designed by Kamil J. Przybos Chris’ book, Does Coffee Cause Cancer?: https://ecwpress.com/products/does-coffee-cause-cancer Obviously, Chris is not your doctor (probably). This podcast is not medical advice for you; it is what we call information. You can check out the Unbiased Science podcast here: https://www.unbiasedscience.com/podcast

Apr 16, 2025 • 42min
134 – Medical Cannabis: where are we?
Dr. Mark Ware joins Chris to discuss the state of the science for medical cannabis. Why should we be calling it cannabis and not marijuana? What are the challenges of studying something that is still illegal in the United States? How good is it at treating chronic pain and which of its health claims are mainly hype? Become a supporter of our show today either on Patreon or through PayPal! Thank you! http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/ https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=9QZET78JZWCZE Email us your questions at thebodyofevidence@gmail.com. Editor: Robyn Flynn Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl Rod of Asclepius designed by Kamil J. Przybos Chris’ book, Does Coffee Cause Cancer?: https://ecwpress.com/products/does-coffee-cause-cancer Obviously, Chris is not your doctor (probably). This podcast is not medical advice for you; it is what we call information.

Apr 9, 2025 • 1h 17min
133 – IVF, infertility and pineapples
In vitro fertilisation is almost 50 years old but still a victim of misunderstandings and myths. Guest co-host Robyn Flynn returns to walk Dr. Chris Labos through the IVF process from beginning to baby and explains why she found it more painful than actually giving birth. Plus, what is the age cut off, why does obesity matter, and why is the pineapple a symbol of IVF? Become a supporter of our show today either on Patreon or through PayPal! Thank you! http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/ https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=9QZET78JZWCZE Email us your questions at thebodyofevidence@gmail.com. Editor: Robyn Flynn Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl Rod of Asclepius designed by Kamil J. Przybos Chris’ book, Does Coffee Cause Cancer?: https://ecwpress.com/products/does-coffee-cause-cancer Obviously, Chris not your doctor (probably). This podcast is not medical advice for you; it is what we call information. References: Age of IVF as predictor of success doi: 10.1016/j.fertnstert.2023.02.036 Success rates in older women doi: 10.1016/j.fertnstert.2006.05.081 Surgical treatment of hydrosalpinx prior to IVF doi: 10.1002/14651858.CD002125.pub3. How smoking affects outcomes doi: 10.1016/j.fertnstert.2008.09.073 How obesity affects outcomes doi: 10.1016/j.fertnstert.2015.11.008 Aspirin in IVF doi: 10.1002/14651858.CD004832.pub3 Acupuncture in IVF doi: 10.1002/14651858.CD006920.pub3 Heparin treatment in IVF doi: 10.1016/j.fertnstert.2014.09.005

Apr 2, 2025 • 1h 4min
132 – Ice baths, cold plunges and Wim Hof
Ice baths, polar bear plunges and cold immersion promise a “treasure trove of benefits” according to wellness guru Wim Hof. On this episode, friend of the show Dr. Nick Tiller - author of The Skeptic's Guide to Sports Science - and his British accent return to talk with Dr. Chris Labos. Both share near drowning experiences that should make you realize that even in a comedy podcast, cold plunges are no joke. Become a supporter of our show today either on Patreon or through PayPal! Thank you! http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/ https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=9QZET78JZWCZE Email us your questions at thebodyofevidence@gmail.com. Editor: Robyn Flynn Theme music: “Fall of the Ocean Queen“ by Joseph Hackl Rod of Asclepius designed by Kamil J. Przybos Chris’ book, Does Coffee Cause Cancer?: https://ecwpress.com/products/does-coffee-cause-cancer Obviously, Chris not your doctor (probably). This podcast is not medical advice for you; it is what we call information. References: 1) The American Heart Association position on ice baths 2) A video talking about deaths associated with the Wim Hof method https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu5CkkaHB1A 3) Nick Tiller’s article on ice baths in Skeptical Inquirer https://skepticalinquirer.org/exclusive/why-are-we-still-ice-bathing/