

Lean Blog Interviews - Healthcare, Manufacturing, Business, and Leadership
Mark Graban
Started in 2006, the ”Lean Blog Interviews” podcast, hosted by Mark Graban, brings you conversations with leading experts, authors, and thought leaders in lean manufacturing and management. As a Lean practitioner, consultant, and author, Mark Graban offers deep insights, real-world experiences, and practical tips for implementing and enhancing Lean practices across various industries.
The Podcast Experience
Mark Graban engages his guests in a conversational format, covering a wide array of topics related to Lean. Guests come from diverse backgrounds, including healthcare, manufacturing, and service industries, sharing their unique experiences and perspectives on Lean implementation.
Core Topics
Lean Principles and History: Dive into the foundational aspects of Lean, its history, and core principles.
Industry Applications: Explore how Lean is applied in different industries, such as healthcare, manufacturing, and startups.
Continuous Improvement: Learn about value stream mapping, process improvement, and culture change.
Leadership and Management Systems: Gain insights into the Toyota Production System and related methodologies, focusing on Lean as a culture, philosophy, and management system rather than just a set of tools.
Unique Features
Focus on Healthcare: Mark Graban, a renowned advocate for Lean in healthcare, frequently features experts who discuss patient safety, quality improvement, and waste reduction in healthcare settings. Hear success stories and practical advice on implementing Lean in hospitals, clinics, and other healthcare organizations.
Practical Advice and Real-World Examples: Guests share their experiences and insights into what works and what doesn’t in Lean implementation. Overcome common challenges and get inspired by success stories.
Inclusivity and Diversity: The podcast features a range of guests from diverse backgrounds, enriching discussions and providing a comprehensive understanding of Lean’s challenges and opportunities.
While we don’t talk much about Lean Six Sigma, we hope the podcast is helpful to you anyway.
Why Listen?
Whether you’re new to Lean or a seasoned practitioner, the ”Lean Blog Interviews” podcast is a valuable resource offering insights, tips, and inspiration for improving your organization’s performance and achieving Lean goals. With its engaging format, practical advice, and diverse range of guests, this podcast is essential for anyone interested in continuous improvement and operational excellence.
Connect and Explore More
Visit the blog at www.leanblog.org. For feedback, email mark@leanblog.org. Access all past episodes, show notes, and more at www.leancast.org.
Subscribe to the ”Lean Blog Interviews” podcast today and join the journey toward Lean mastery and continuous improvement.
The Podcast Experience
Mark Graban engages his guests in a conversational format, covering a wide array of topics related to Lean. Guests come from diverse backgrounds, including healthcare, manufacturing, and service industries, sharing their unique experiences and perspectives on Lean implementation.
Core Topics
Lean Principles and History: Dive into the foundational aspects of Lean, its history, and core principles.
Industry Applications: Explore how Lean is applied in different industries, such as healthcare, manufacturing, and startups.
Continuous Improvement: Learn about value stream mapping, process improvement, and culture change.
Leadership and Management Systems: Gain insights into the Toyota Production System and related methodologies, focusing on Lean as a culture, philosophy, and management system rather than just a set of tools.
Unique Features
Focus on Healthcare: Mark Graban, a renowned advocate for Lean in healthcare, frequently features experts who discuss patient safety, quality improvement, and waste reduction in healthcare settings. Hear success stories and practical advice on implementing Lean in hospitals, clinics, and other healthcare organizations.
Practical Advice and Real-World Examples: Guests share their experiences and insights into what works and what doesn’t in Lean implementation. Overcome common challenges and get inspired by success stories.
Inclusivity and Diversity: The podcast features a range of guests from diverse backgrounds, enriching discussions and providing a comprehensive understanding of Lean’s challenges and opportunities.
While we don’t talk much about Lean Six Sigma, we hope the podcast is helpful to you anyway.
Why Listen?
Whether you’re new to Lean or a seasoned practitioner, the ”Lean Blog Interviews” podcast is a valuable resource offering insights, tips, and inspiration for improving your organization’s performance and achieving Lean goals. With its engaging format, practical advice, and diverse range of guests, this podcast is essential for anyone interested in continuous improvement and operational excellence.
Connect and Explore More
Visit the blog at www.leanblog.org. For feedback, email mark@leanblog.org. Access all past episodes, show notes, and more at www.leancast.org.
Subscribe to the ”Lean Blog Interviews” podcast today and join the journey toward Lean mastery and continuous improvement.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Apr 10, 2024 • 53min
Lean from a General Manager and Executive Perspective: DeWayne Allen
My guest for Episode #502 of the Lean Blog Interviews Podcast is DeWayne Allen, an executive, speaker, and workshop facilitator.
Episode page with video, transcript, and more
DeWayne is a results-driven executive with over 20 years of experience, renowned for leveraging a solid engineering and operations background to propel growth for Fortune 500 organizations.
As a visionary leader, DeWayne excels in crafting and executing strategic plans to deliver desired outcomes. With a proven track record in fostering relationships and adeptly managing cross-functional teams, DeWayne ensures seamless alignment of internal operations with overarching business objectives.
He is also a trusted advisor to C-suite executives for strategic decision-making.
DeWayne is dedicated to empowering 1000+ Black leaders to become influential corporate executives through STEM education, fostering diversity, equity, and innovation.
In this episode, we discuss how industrial engineering principles can be harnessed into strategic corporate leadership. Allen, who began his career as an engineer, spotlights his use of Six Sigma, lean methodologies, and continuous improvement tactics to tackle modern business challenges, from corporate turnarounds to driving growth. His success in transitioning into business-oriented roles, executing lean success in dynamic environments, and managing diverse operational aspects as a general manager add to his rich collection of professional experiences.
Moreover, Allen's innovative application of lean methodologies to the hectic process of mergers and acquisitions (M&A) demonstrate his knack for using these principles regardless of context. And his view on incorporating lean management within nonprofits signals a broader utility for these principles outside of just manufacturing or profit-centered entities. In light of Allen's commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), he champions the integration of these ethical and social values with lean principles for greater operational excellence. Join us and delve deeper into the workings of DeWayne Allen's lean philosophy and powerful leadership style.
Questions, Notes, and Highlights:
What's your Lean origin story?
As a leader, helping everybody feel like and work like ONE TEAM?
Becoming a formal leader — steps to work up to being a GM?
What are some of your favorite stories or examples of using Lean throughout your career?
You've worked as General Manager — The split of your time and attention?
What was your view of Lean in that role and what you learned there?
Tell us about applying Lean in Mergers and Acquisitions work? Can you make that a process?
Tell us about your work in the Non-profit space – National Society of Black Engineers, applying it there?
The podcast is brought to you by Stiles Associates, the premier executive search firm specializing in the placement of Lean Transformation executives. With a track record of success spanning over 30 years, it's been the trusted partner for the manufacturing, private equity, and healthcare sectors. Learn more.
This podcast is part of the #LeanCommunicators network.

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Mar 27, 2024 • 1h 5min
Marcia Daszko on Dr. W. Edwards Deming; Her Book, "Pivot Disrupt Transform"
Marcia Daszko, mentored by Dr. Deming, discusses challenging management ideas like performance appraisals, change management, and problem-solving strategies. She emphasizes the importance of efficient decision-making, accountability vs. responsibility, and the triad of quality, improvement, and innovation. The podcast explores the transformative impact of Dr. Deming's philosophy on leadership, organizational change, and survival in today's evolving landscape.

Mar 13, 2024 • 42min
500 Episodes and Growing: The History and Evolution of the Lean Blog Podcast
Episode page with transcript and more
My guest for Episode #500 of the Lean Blog Interviews Podcast is me, your usual host Mark Graban. Today, I'm mixing up the format with a solo episode that celebrates 500 episodes over almost 18 years.
I'll share some of the origin story and history of the podcast. You'll hear clips from Episode 1 (with Norm Bodek) and Episode 50 (where Jamie Flinchbaugh asked me about getting started). You'll also hear a clip from a recent conversation where Barry McCarthy, of AME Australia, asked me about persisting with podcasting all these years.
Thanks for listening, whether this is your first time, you've listened to them all, or somewhere in between!
The podcast is brought to you by Stiles Associates, the premier executive search firm specializing in the placement of Lean Transformation executives. With a track record of success spanning over 30 years, it's been the trusted partner for the manufacturing, private equity, and healthcare sectors. Learn more.
This podcast is part of the #LeanCommunicators network.
Notes and Highlights:
More than 500 episodes in 921 weeks, a little more than one every two weeks for 17.75 years
3,276,745 total downloads / listens, although I'm not convinced the stats are 100% consistent
The top 10 most downloaded episodes
The most frequent guests (#1 is Norman Bodek with 14 episodes)
One anonymous guest
Where listeners are from
The origin story and the intro to Episode #1
A clip from Episode #50
My reflections on the clunky podcast name
A shift over time from “big names” to highlighting new faces and their stories
The one time I forgot to record!
In memoriam: guests who have passed away

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Feb 28, 2024 • 58min
Jim Womack's Observations and Reflections on the Evolution of Lean
Jim Womack reflects on Lean evolution, discusses Boeing's issues, union engagement, aerospace leadership, global manufacturing challenges, and automotive industry breakthroughs. The episode covers various companies, countries, and topics, offering valuable insights and stories.

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Feb 14, 2024 • 1h 1min
The Toyota Way: Responding to, Preventing and Learning from Mistakes with Jeff Liker
Jeff Liker, author of the Toyota Way series, discusses learning from mistakes within organizations that employ Toyota Production System. He shares insights on Toyota's culture of continuous improvement, the role of leadership in problem solving, and the significance of the andon cord system. The episode also explores the challenge of changing deeply embedded habits in leaders and the importance of assessing an organization's compatibility for help. Additionally, it discusses the challenges faced during the implementation of the team leader role at Ford's truck plant. Off-topic discussions about playing classical guitar conclude the episode.

Jan 31, 2024 • 1h 7min
Improving MRI Safety for Patients and Staff: Tobias Gilk
My guest for Episode #497 of the Lean Blog Interviews Podcast is Tobias Gilk, the founder of Gilk Radiology Consulting (GRC). He is an architect by training, but has spent 20+ years focusing on MRI safety... initially through the architecture and planning of MRI facilities, but quickly growing into the technology, clinical practice, regulation, and economics of MRI safety.
Episode page with video, transcript, and more
He is recognized by both state and federal courts as an expert in MRI safety issues. Tobias has published dozens of papers and articles on MRI safety. He is also twice a member of the American College of Radiology's MRI Safety Committee (twice named co-author of ACR MRI safety standard guidance).
In this episode, we dive deep into the complexities of MRI technology, acknowledging its transformative role in health care but equally highlighting the overlooked dangers that require meticulous handling. Delving into safety protocols, process failures, and the risks associated with projectiles and thermal injuries, they underscore the need for stricter adherence to safety protocols.
We not only discuss the intrinsic risks associated with MRI but also explore the regulatory landscape, identifying key gaps that permit inconsistency in safety practices. The narrative is a pointed reminder that safety is of paramount importance, and mitigating risks requires thorough screening, careful positioning, and a collective commitment to safety-first processes.
Questions, Notes, and Highlights:
Give us a quick MRI technology overview...
"The safe modality"
What causes danger to staff and patients??
Machine malfunctions are very rare -- possible burns?
A typical safety story?
Clinically safe but with inherent process-related dangers?
Why aren't there better access controls and checks about what and who comes near the magnet?
Couldn't we cheaply brute force this by posting an educated "MRI Guard" outside the danger zone? Is patient safety really the top priority??
Staffing cost vs. risks of harm or machine damage...
How common / frequent are incidents that harm or kill?
"If you've been told that MRI safety only comes at the expense of throughput, you've been lied to."
"Absolutely, Lean is essential to MRI safety..."
The podcast is brought to you by Stiles Associates, the premier executive search firm specializing in the placement of Lean Transformation executives. With a track record of success spanning over 30 years, it's been the trusted partner for the manufacturing, private equity, and healthcare sectors. Learn more.
This episode is also brought to you by "The Optimistic Outlook," hosted by Barbara Humpton, CEO of Siemens USA. This podcast is a hub for those passionate about transformative concepts that shape both our workplaces and our world. Find it in your favorite podcast app.
This podcast is part of the #LeanCommunicators network.

Jan 17, 2024 • 55min
Learning and Leading Lean as the CEO: Randy Carr, CEO of World Emblem
My guest for Episode #496 of the Lean Blog Interviews Podcast is Randy Carr, the CEO of South Florida-based World Emblem – one of the largest embroidery companies in the world with plants in the U.S. and Mexico.
Episode page with transcript, video, and more
Since 1993, the family-owned business has been the “go to” for emblems and patches for sports headwear, footwear, sports garments, and other apparel, with an output of more than 100 million products a year.
In this episode, we delve deeper into World Emblem's systemic view of their business operations within the scope of the SQDCM (Safety, Quality, Delivery, Cost, and Morale) model. Learn how this approach steered them toward not just honing a product's price-point, but also delivering a superior experience that justifies that price.
Discover how lean principles became an integral part of their response to various business challenges, ranging from pre-COVID operational inefficiencies to the financial impact of pandemic-induced difficulties. As World Emblem continues to foster a culture of continuous improvement and uphold their focus on safety, quality, and customer service, this lean journey illustrates the effectiveness of lean in maintaining robust competitiveness within a dynamic global market.
Questions, Notes, and Highlights:
We'll somewhat structure this interview like an A3
Let's start by telling us about the background of World Emblem — what was the need for change?
Their “management system” wasn't right?
How did you learn about Lean?
A 7-figure leap of faith to hire consultants
Baby steps… vs. trying to learn and do it yourself?
Countermeasure — Why Nearshoring?
Hoshin Planning process – how has that worked? Benefits?
Allocating your time as a CEO — 30% with customers?
Using Lean outside of production?
Being honest about problems — a key part of the DNA
What's next on the action plan? How will continue you evaluating your progress?
The UK “True Lean” methodology
The podcast is brought to you by Stiles Associates, the premier executive search firm specializing in the placement of Lean Transformation executives. With a track record of success spanning over 30 years, it's been the trusted partner for the manufacturing, private equity, and healthcare sectors. Learn more.
This podcast is part of the #LeanCommunicators network.

Jan 12, 2024 • 35min
Habits, Continuous Improvement, and the Latest at KaiNexus: Greg Jacobson
My guest for this bonus episode of the Lean Blog Interviews Podcast is Gregory H. Jacobson, M.D., a co-founder and the CEO of KaiNexus.
Episode show page with transcript, video, and more
Greg, also a practicing emergency medicine physician to this day, was previously a guest in Episode 149 and was a part of a physician panel in Episode 361. He also joined me for Episode 31 of the "My Favorite Mistake" Podcast. We also podcast together fairly often via the KaiNexus Continuous Improvement Podcast.
Greg is one of the three keynote speakers at this year's Healthcare Systems Process Improvement Conference that's presented by the Society for Health Systems. I'll also be facilitating an intensive session on Psychological Safety and Continuous Improvement. Come join us in Atlanta next month!!
In this episode, we preview Greg's talk at the conference. Since it's been more than 11 years since Greg has been here, we talk about the progress that KaiNexus has made as a company and as a continuous improvement software platform.
Questions, Notes, and Highlights:
The three "Habits" webinars we mentioned: One, Two, and Three
A video about values and success traits at KaiNexus
Excerpt from The Mistakes That Make Us: Cultivating a Culture of Learning and Innovation about KaiNexus
The podcast is brought to you by Stiles Associates, the premier executive search firm specializing in the placement of Lean Transformation executives. With a track record of success spanning over 30 years, it’s been the trusted partner for the manufacturing, private equity, and healthcare sectors. Learn more.
This podcast is part of the #LeanCommunicators network.

Jan 4, 2024 • 54min
Lean Management Meets Tech: Theodo Group’s Success Story with Catherine Chabiron & Fabrice Bernhard
My guests for Episode #495 of the Lean Blog Interviews Podcast are Catherine Chabiron and Fabrice Bernhard, who are discussing her new book Learning to Scale at Theodo Group: Growing a Fast and Resilient Company.
Episode page with video, transcript, and more
Catherine Chabiron is a board member for the Institut Lean France, a member of the Lean Global Network, like the Lean Enterprise Institute.
Catherine is an established expert in Lean management with a professional journey spanning over 40 years. She has experience in a range of service and support functions, including IT, Logistics, Sales, Finance, and HR, both in France and globally.
As a Lean executive coach, her expertise in Lean thinking has been largely shaped by her experiences within the automotive industry, where she has lived and breathed the Lean philosophy. This has been further enriched by her regular visits to the Toyota supply chain in Japan, an experience that has offered her unique insights and an in-depth understanding of how a learning culture operates.
So, speaking of Theodo Group, we're also again joined by their chief technology officer and co-founder, Fabrice Bernhard. He co-founded Theodo in Paris in 2009, which has grown on average 50% yearly for the last 8 years and generated 90M€ revenue in 2022. He is now based in London to help with the international expansion.
We delve into the broadened application of lean principles in our discussion with Fabrice Bernard and Catherine Chabiron. Bernard shares how Theodore Group implemented Lean as a strategic pillar in their operations, using it as a toolbox to create sustained growth and maintain competitive edges. They systematically addressed business challenges using TPS, Extreme Programming, and Scrum to conjure the “agile magic” of a small, integrated team at scale.
Don't miss out on the chance to hear about cultivating a Lean culture that goes beyond strategy and tool adoption. By fostering an environment of continuous learning, teamwork, and the relentless pursuit of excellence, Theodore Group effectively established Lean as the backbone of their company's culture. We also expound on broader societal challenges that can be addressed through Lean methodologies and the journey of A3 thinking in fostering deep understanding and collaboration. This episode takes an expansive look at Lean practices, demonstrating its adaptable, innovative, and ethically conscious nature across different industries, proving its potency in driving companies towards sustained growth.
Questions, Notes, and Highlights:
What are your Lean origin stories?
Lean as a strategy at Theodo Group?
How did the two of you come to work together? First met in Japan, right? What led to the book?
Startup vs Scale-up?
Six Planet Lean articles – LINK
Sharing Lean thinking with your CEO and other leaders?
How do you embody Lean?
A lot of virtual work now? If so what does Gemba mean?
What does continuous improvement mean to you? How do leaders foster a learning culture?
How does continuous improvement address not just the scaling challenge but societal challenges?
Why are the current ways of scaling a company broken?
Big Company Disease? Silos and process trumping customers, compliance over initiative
The podcast is brought to you by Stiles Associates, the premier executive search firm specializing in the placement of Lean Transformation executives. With a track record of success spanning over 30 years, it’s been the trusted partner for the manufacturing, private equity, and healthcare sectors. Learn more.
This podcast is part of the #LeanCommunicators network.

Dec 13, 2023 • 50min
Continuous Improvement and the Need to Improve LESS - Lean Insights from Chad Bareither
Chad Bareither, a change agent in the corporate world, discusses his new book 'Improve LESS' and the 'Focus and Align Framework'. Topics include Lean in the military, collaborative relationships in a lean supply chain, and the importance of focus and alignment in organizations.