Amy Webb is a quantitative futurist and a bestselling, award-winning author. She is a professor of strategic foresight at the NYU Stern School of Business and the Founder of the Future Today Institute, a leading foresight and strategy firm that helps leaders and their organizations prepare for complex futures. Amy has advised CEOs and heads of strategy of some of the world’s largest companies, three-star generals and admirals and executive government leadership on strategy and technology. She was also a Delegate on the former U.S.- Russia Bilateral Presidential Commission, where she worked on the future of technology, media and international diplomacy. She is the author of several popular books, including The Big Nine: How the Tech Titans and Their Thinking Machines Could Warp Humanity, which was longlisted for the Financial Times & McKinsey Business Book of the Year award, shortlisted for the Thinkers50 Digital Thinking Award, and won the 2020 Gold Axiom Medal for the best book about business and technology. She also wrote The Signals Are Talking: Why Today’s Fringe Is Tomorrow’s Mainstream, which won the Thinkers50 Radar Award, was selected as one of Fast Company’s Best Books of 2016, Amazon’s best books 2016, and was the recipient of the 2017 Gold Axiom Medal for the best book about business and technology. Amy was named by Forbes as one of the five women changing the world, listed as the BBC’s 100 Women of 2020, and the Thinkers50 Radar list of the 30 management thinkers most likely to shape the future of how organizations are managed and led. In this podcast, she shares: Why we should be doing 'back-casting' rather than forecasting Why strategizing for the future is NOT about predicting it, but instead about shifting your mindset to be prepared for the future’s uncertainty Some practical advice about who should be doing the kind of future planning work that that is so critical for today for any organization that wants to remain relevant __________________________________________________________________________________________"If you're on a three-year strategic planning cycle, typically...you're marking milestones and KPIs...on that corporate strategy. The problem is that it doesn't account for uncertainty. This is where a lot of companies fall short, and they don't have the ability to recalibrate. So I do not use a line, I use a cone it's a different shape. So the intersecting vectors where that cone begins on the left that represents today. And the further out in time, you go, the wider, the angle becomes on the inside of that cone. And that represents uncertainty over time."-Amy Webb__________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Amy + The topic of today’s episode2:10—What is your definition of strategy?3:32—A model for thinking about time and foresight6:05—What's a tip or go-strategy for getting people to appreciate the importance of thinking of long-term horizons?8:15—Could you explain the difference between predicting the future vs. being ready for many possible futures. Could you explain the difference?10:22—Using data and evidence to model out plausible next-order impacts12:24—The term and history of the futurist13:50—Could you describe your work inThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast

Prof. Dr. Christian Busch is the bestselling author of The Serendipity Mindset: The Art & Science of Creating Good Luck. Arianna Huffington called it “a wise, exciting, and life-changing book” that Paul Polman says “provides excellent practical guidance for all.” Christian is an internationally-known expert in the areas of innovation, purpose-driven leadership, and serendipity. He is the director of the CGA Global Economy Program at NYU, and also teaches at the London School of Economics. He is a cofounder of Leaders on Purpose and the Sandbox Network, and a former director of LSE's Innovation Lab. His work has been featured by outlets such as the Strategic Management Journal,Harvard Business Review, Forbes, The Guardian, Washington Post, and the BBC. He is member of the World Economic Forum's (WEF) Expert Forum, a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts, and on the Thinkers50 Radar list of the 30 thinkers "most likely to shape the future. In this podcast, he shares: His concept that luck (or serendipity) is not random, but can actually be cultivated Some of the specific characteristics and practices of organizations that are able to turn unexpected events, trends, market developments into opportunity Some really practical ways you can start generating more luck, for yourself, your life, and your organization __________________________________________________________________________________________"That...idea that we have to stick to the plan is something that...portrays authority, portrays the idea that we are reliable and dependable, but actually a lot of times it does the opposite in the end because we now have an incentive to hide numbers, to somehow try to figure out how we can tweak the budgets to still look good. And so actually from a performer perspective, we actually a lot of times do the opposite."-Christian Busch__________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Christian+ The topic of today’s episode2:23—What is your definition of strategy?4:23—How did you get into the idea of serendipity?5:28—How can serendipity be applied to business?7:10—What are the barriers to seeing these opportunities that serendipity affords?10:52—What are other leverage points to embed serendipity into a company's culture?13:05—How companies can encourage or kill serendipity21:30—What is something people get wrong? 17:40—Could you explain your concept of casting hooks?19:04—How can people connect with you?__________________________________________________________________________________________Additional Resources: Company Page: https://theserendipitymindset.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/chrisserendipLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/today/author/christianwbuschThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast

*Note to listeners* This episode is part of a special sub-series on business ecosystems.Tiffani Bova is the chief growth evangelist at Salesforce and the author of the Wall Street Journal bestselling book GROWTH IQ: Get Smarter About the Choices that Will Make or Break Your Business. Tiffani has been named to the latest Thinkers50’s list of the world’s top management thinkers and is a welcomed guest on Bloomberg, BNN, Cheddar, MSNBC, and Yahoo Finance, among others. She also contributes her thinking to publications including Harvard Business Review, Forbes, Entrepreneur, Quora, Thrive, among others. She is a change-maker who’s thought-provoking and forward-thinking insights have made her a frequent guest on a variety of industry-leading podcasts and live broadcasts. Tiffani Bova began her career as a sales, marketing and customer service executive for startups and Fortune 500 companies where she was recognized as being one of the first to develop a robust go-to-market model for cloud-based solutions and indirect channel strategies. This experience brought her to Salesforce where she became global growth evangelist, driving customer success through a vast network of customer and partner ecosystems. She has consistently been a leader in witnessing, understanding and helping shape the relationship with ecosystems across various organizations. In this discussion, Tiffani shares her insights on:In this podcast, she shares: What defines an ecosystem, and why it’s more common than you may thinkThe history of ecosystems, as she witnessed them on the frontlines, and how the internet and digital technology have accelerated their prevalenceA practical set of steps and questions to decide if an ecosystem is right for your company, where to draw value from it, and deciding how it will help close your gapsThe importance of putting the customer first when making the decision to join an ecosystem The different types of relationships you can develop with partners in an ecosystemHow ecosystems can become a significant part of your profitability—and why this is critical to your success__________________________________________________________________________________________"So, it has really been this interesting shift that kind of 2000, this chasm was crossed around opening up ecosystems to different kinds of partners as well, the opportunity to reach different kinds of customers in new ways through new channels."-Tiffani Bova__________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Tiffani + The topic of today’s episode1:58—What are your thoughts on the future of ecosystem-based competition?5:28—How partnerships in ecosystems are different than traditional business partnerships7:03—How the internet has changed ecosystems by connecting different players to customers8:17—Are there more ecosystem-based companies now?9:57—What are sources of competitive advantage of key success factors that companies need to add to their strategic toolkit in light of ecosystems becoming more prevalent? 15:54—What can you tell us about ecosystem players that just join an ecosystem, vs. have to do a lot of the heavy lifting to build it?21:29—What are tThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast

Whitney Johnson is the CEO of human capital consultancy WLJ Advisors, an Inc. 5000 2020 fastest-growing private company in America. She is an expert at helping high-growth organizations develop high-growth individuals, and recognized as one of the 50 leading business thinkers in the world (#14) as named by Thinkers50. Having worked at Fortune 100 companies, been an award-winning equity analyst on Wall Street, invested with Harvard’s Clayton Christensen, and coached alongside the renowned Marshall Goldsmith, Whitney understands how companies work, how investors think, and how the best coaches coach–––all of which she brings to her work in coaching CEOs and CSuite executives. Whitney works with high growth venture-backed start-ups and Fortune 100 companies across a variety of sectors including consumer goods, technology, higher education and financial services. In 2017, she was selected from more than 16,000 candidates as a “Top 15 Coach” by Dr. Marshall Goldsmith. She is an award-winning author, world-class keynote speaker, and frequent lecturer for Harvard Business School's Corporate Learning. She is a popular contributor to the Harvard Business Review, has 1.8 million followers on LinkedIn, where she was selected as a Top Voice in 2018, and her course on Fundamentals of Entrepreneurship has been viewed more than 1 million times. Whitney joined us last year in our podcast as a guest speaker and she introduced us to how the S Curve or adoption curve can be applied to yourself and your career. But in her books so far, the S Curve was sort of a “supporting character.” Now, in her new book, Smart Growth, she puts the S Curve front and center and lays out with remarkable precision and clarity the milestones along that S Curve. In this podcast, she shares: Points out that without landmarks, people literally walk around in circles Provides a map of six landmarks you can use to help you avoid walking around in circles in your career How to know if you have plateaued in your career or your business, and whether it's time to get uncomfortable or find a new adventure How to then know if you are the right next s-curve __________________________________________________________________________________________"And when you know where you are, you increase your capacity to grow and the more you grow, the more you can grow. And so, you can use this for yourself, if you're willing to grow yourself, then you're going to be able to grow your people. And if you can grow your people, then you can grow your organization"-Whitney Johnson__________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Whitney + The topic of today’s episode3:00—Why did you decide to write your third and newest book?3:56—Could you unpack the metaphor from your book?8:22—How can you know if you've plateaued, whether in your life or career?10:45—How do you know if the next S Curve you're stepping on to is the right path?12:28—Digging deeper into the "Explorer" phase of the S Curve16:00—The sweet spot of the S Curve18:05—How can you know when you've reached the mastery phase vs. you're actually just in the beginning phase?20:10—Are there any last thoughts you'd like to share?20:48—How Thank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast

Verne Harnish is founder of the world-renowned Entrepreneurs’ Organization (EO), with over 16,000 members worldwide, and chaired for fifteen years EO’s premiere CEO program held at MIT, a program in which he still teaches today. Founder and CEO of Scaling Up, a global executive education and coaching company with over 200 partners on six continents, Verne has spent the past four decades helping companies scale up. He’s the author of the bestseller Mastering the Rockefeller Habits, authored The Greatest Business Decisions of All Times for which Jim Collins wrote the foreword; and wrote Scaling Up (Rockefeller Habits 2.0) which has been translated into 22 languages and has won eight major international book awards including the prestigious International Book Award for Best General Business book. His latest book, Scaling Up Compensation, rocketed to the #1 HR book on Amazon. Verne also chairs the annual ScaleUp Summits and serves on several boards including vice chair of The Riordan Clinic; co-founder and chair of Geoversity; and board member of the social venture Million Dollar Women, and is a private investor in many scaleups.In this podcast, he shares: Several practical proven tips for designing your growth strategy How strategy has evolved over the last few decades and How to identify the right customer niche for you The key lesson for keeping competitors at bay Why you shouldn’t be designing strategy at the office, and where you should do it instead __________________________________________________________________________________________"We have the framework: right people doing the right things right. So, it’s figuring out the right things for people to do, and that those right things are different than what everyone else in your industry is doing. That is the essence of strategy: doing it different. "-Verne Harnish__________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Verne + The topic of today’s episode2:23—What is your definition of strategy?4:02—What do you say to CEOs about going after a big market share vs. a niche market?5:23—How can a company figure out what their niche is?7:23—Examples of companies that have dominated their niche8:22—How to "blackmail" a market11:00—How have you seen the field of strategy evolve in the last few decades?12:03—The importance of organizing a council13:48—Why all great thinkers have a physical space for creative thinking15:55—What is an important framework you'd highly recommend?19:04—How can people connect with you?16:55—How can people connect with you?__________________________________________________________________________________________Additional Resources: Company Page: https://scalingup.com/verne-harnish/Twitter: https://twitter.com/agilescaleupLinkedIn: httpsThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast

Keith Ferrazzi is a bestselling author, award-winning speaker, investor, philanthropist, and executive team coach who helps teams transform enterprises. As Founder and Chairman of Ferrazzi Greenlight and its applied research institute, he coaches executive teams in top organizations to achieve transformative outcomes by harnessing Radical Adaptability. He is recognized as one of the world’s most sought-after executive team coaches. Keith is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of Who’s Got Your Back, Never Eat Alone, Leading Without Authority, and Competing in a New Work World. He formerly served as CMO and Head of Sales at Deloitte and Starwood Hotels. Fast Company Leadership Hall of Fame and Toastmaster’s 2018 Golden Gavel Award Winner, Keith’s is one of the most in-demand keynote speakers. In this podcast, he shares: Specific ways in which the COVID crisis is transforming the nature of work Why would should just be thinking of “remote” work but rather the much bigger opportunity represented by “asynchronous work” Ideas for leveraging the crowd in your company to design better strategies A simple, 5-minute exercise you can put in place to help ensure you don’t get surprised by the next unexpected disruption __________________________________________________________________________________________"People think to think that reason to be in business is to make a profit. No, profit is the applause you get for creating a motivating environment for your people so they take good care of your customers."-Keith Ferrazzi __________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Keith + The topic of today’s episode2:05—If you really know me, you know that....3:24—Having the courage to lean into "I don't know," and the value of crowdsourcing insights6:12—What's your definition of strategy?7:15—How the roles of (Chief Marketing Officer) CMOs and (Chief Strategy Officers) CSOs have changed over time8:27—In light of the pandemic, companies have had to adapt. What do you think of adapting "back"?9:39—5-Min Exercise: "The foresight Meeting"13:21—Moving from synchronous to asynchronous teamwork14:22—What are tools that work well for asynchronous collaboration?15:58—Resilience: Curating your team's energy to redesign your workforce17:29—Last thoughts and how to connect with Keith15:48—What are you working on now?16:55—How can people connect with you?__________________________________________________________________________________________Additional Resources: Personal Page: https://www.keithferrazzi.com/Newest publication: https://www.goforwardtowork.com/bookTwitter: https://twitter.com/ferrazziLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithfeThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast

Ken Blanchard is one of the world’s most influential leadership experts. A prominent, sought-after author, speaker, and business consultant, Ken is respected for his lifetime of groundbreaking research and thought leadership that has influenced the day-to-day management and leadership of people and companies throughout the world. In 2005, he was inducted into Amazon’s Hall of Fame as one of the top 25 best­selling authors of all time. He is the co-author of more than sixty-five books, including the iconic The One Minute Manager, with combined sales of over 23 million copies in forty-seven languages. He and Randy Conley are also co-authors of Simple Truths of Leadership. He is co-founder of The Ken Blanchard Companies, a leading international training and consulting firm. In this podcast, he shares: Why you want to be an servant leader and how to know you actually are The first step to take when seeking to transform your culture Why you should be focused on your employees before your customers __________________________________________________________________________________________"People think to think that reason to be in business is to make a profit. No, profit is the applause you get for creating a motivating environment for your people so they take good care of your customers."-Ken Blanchard__________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Ken + The topic of today’s episode1:58—If you really know me, you know that....2:28—What is your definition of strategy?4:20—How has your business model changed over time?5:00—Could you tell us about servant leadership?7:15—How can a leader know that they're not using their title and position as a servant leader?8:45—Do you have any advice for someone who doesn't have a ton of influence, but is a leader?10:20—Are there any highlights about trust you could point us to from your book?11:28—Do you have any frameworks or tips you like to point to in transforming company culture?12:31—What's something that you've changed your mind about?14:01—What's something you wish you had learned earlier?15:48—What are you working on now?16:55—How can people connect with you?__________________________________________________________________________________________Additional Resources: Personal Page: https://www.kenblanchard.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/kenblanchardLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenblanchard1Thank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast

Gary Hamel is one of the world’s most influential and iconoclastic business thinkers. He has worked with leading companies across the globe and is a dynamic and sought-after management speaker. Hamel has been on the faculty of the London Business School for more than 30 years and is the director of the Management Lab. Gary has written 20 articles for the Harvard Business Review and is the most reprinted author in the Review’s history. His landmark books have been translated into more than 25 languages. His most recent bestsellers are Humanocracy and The Future of Management. In these volumes, Hamel presents an impassioned plea for reinventing management and lays out a practical blueprint for building organizations that are “fit for the future.” Fortune magazine describes Hamel as “the world’s leading expert on business strategy,” and the Financial Times calls him a “management innovator without peer.” Hamel has been ranked by The Wall Street Journal as the world’s most influential business thinker and is a fellow of the Strategic Management Society and of the World Economic Forum. In his work, Gary has led transformational efforts in some of the world’s most notable companies and has helped to create billions of dollars in shareholder value. He is one of the world’s most sought-after management speakers on the topics of strategy, leadership, innovation and change. In this podcast, he shares: What “strategic intent” is and why your strategy setting should begin with it How to address "leadership myopia" when you recognize it, and to make sure you don't develop itWhat his research shows are the four sources of breakthrough strategic ideas The source of the differentiating choices that will ultimately determine your competitive advantage__________________________________________________________________________________________"You start with an aspiration and then you work backward from that. You know, innovation is born in the gap between aspiration high and resources."-Gary Hamel__________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Gary + The topic of today’s episode2:40—If you really know me, you know that....3:10—What is your definition of strategy?4:49—What would you say you are most known for?6:31—Second well-known article, The Core Competence of the Corporation8:40—The concept of "Strategies Revolution," looking at strategy as an innovation problem, and letting go of strategic planning10:30—How do you know if you're spending enough time on core initiatives vs. new initiatives?14:25—How to address "leadership myopia" when you recognize it19:12—Should all strategists start with strategic intent, or where if not?20:58—Where do new game-changing strategies come from?24:37—If you want to be the next "unicorn" creating a process for developing a portfolio of strategic options is essential 27:24—Learning to recognize patterns when developing strategic options29:58—The benefit of collaboration in making strategic decisions32:38—How can people connect and engage with you, and whatThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast

Jonathan Knee is a of Professional Practice in Media and Technology and Co-Director of the Media and Technology Program at Columbia Business School, where he has taught Media Mergers and Acquisitions and Strategic Management of Media. He serves as a Senior Advisor at Evercore, an investment banking advisory firm. Before joining here as Senior Managing Director in 2003, he was a Managing Director and Co-head of Morgan Stanley’s Media Group and was previously Publishing Sector Head in the Communications, Media and Entertainment Group at Goldman Sachs. Jonathan also serves on the boards of New Alternatives for Children, the National Women’s Law Center, and the Citizens’ Committee for Children of New York and is a Member of the Council on Foreign Relations. His writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times and The Atlantic. He is the author of Class Clowns: How the Smartest Investors Lost Billions in Education, The Accidental Investment Banker: Inside the Decade that Transformed Wall Street, co-author of The Curse of The Mogul: What’s Wrong With the World’s Leading Media Companies? and his most recent book, The Platform Delusion: Who Wins and Who Loses In the Age of Tech Titans, packed with real-word insights, gathered on the streets, from decades of feasting or fasting based on the accuracy of his prediction of which companies will thrive and which will fall. *Note: We condensed this original hour-long discussion into a format to fit this podcast series, but be on the lookout for the full-length version in the coming weeks.In this podcast, he shares: The three competitive advantages discussed in his framework from The Platform Delusion Why you should NOT be looking become a platform, as it seems nearly every entrepreneur and incumbent wants to do—and what you should be looking for instead How to build your competitive moat by creating multiple reinforcing sources of advantage Why Netflix is NOT a platform, though many think it is What’s better: building “network affects” or “scale advantages?”And he starts exploring what it takes to compete in an ecosystem The difference between a platform and an ecosystem__________________________________________________________________________________________" [An] Ecosystem is really about the overall business environment. Who are the constituents? How do they interact with each other? Platform is a specific business model that connects some part of an ecosystem. But to me what's most interesting about the connection between the structure of the ecosystem and the question that we were just talking about...is: Is the platform a good business or not?"-Jonathan Knee__________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Jonathan + The topic of today’s episode2:46—If you really know me, you know that....3:20—What is your definition of strategy?5:09—Could you talk to us to your ideas behind "platform delusion"?7:49—What makes a business have a competitive advantage?9:32—What exactly is a platform, and what is its core value?12:19—Network effects vs. scale14:18—Creating customer captivity as a digital companyThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast

Francesca Gino is an award-winning researcher who focuses on why people make the decisions they do at work, and how leaders and employees have more productive, creative and fulfilling lives. She is the author of Rebel Talent: Why it Pays to Break the Rules in Work and Life, Sidetracked: Why Our Decisions Get Derailed, and How We Can Stick to the Plan and numerous articles that have been featured in HBR and other top publications. She is the Tandon Family Professor of Business Administration in the Negotiation, Organizations & Markets Unit at Harvard Business School, and also affiliated with the Program on Negotiation at Harvard Law School, as well as the Mind, Brain, Behavior Initiative at Harvard, and the Behavioral Insight Group. She co-chairs HBS Executive Education programs on Behavioral Economics (focused on how to apply behavioral insights to organizational problems) and Driving Profitable Growth. Gino has been honored as one of the world’s Top 40 Business Professors under 40 and one of the world’s 50 most influential management thinkers by Thinkers 50. Professor Gino has won numerous awards for her teaching, including the HBS Faculty Award by Harvard Business School's MBA Class of 2015. Her studies have also been featured in The Economist, The New York Times, Newsweek, Scientific American, Psychology Today, and The Wall Street Journal, and her work has been discussed on National Public Radio and CBS Radio. In this podcast, she shares: Why curiosity is so critical for your career and the future longevity of your organization Simple, practical tips you can take to express more creativity and curiosity at work And similarly, how your organization can unlock greater curiosity throughoutHer definition of a “rebel” and why you should consider becoming one__________________________________________________________________________________________" I collected data on hundreds of employees who are starting new jobs or new roles, and sure enough, across the board...you see curiosity being pretty high, but you go back to the same people nine, ten months later, curiosity had dropped by at least 20%. And so it raises the question of: What is happening? Why are people are losing their curiosity? And I think that again, there is the same fear of a new role, a new place , "others are going to judge me if I try to do things differently,"...so we just follow the usual ways of working."-Francesca Gino__________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Francesca + The topic of today’s episode2:30—If you really know me, you know that....3:43—What is your definition of strategy?4:45—What are you most known for?6:29—The importance of asking 'why' or 'what if' in an organization.8:12—How can you encourage people to feel comfortable being curious?9:33—How do you make learning goals that encourage being curious?10:43—For someone in a strategy role, what is a way to embed curiosity into the organization in a systematic way?12:27—How do you distinguish between a learning objective and an outcome objective for your team?14:42—Building your curiosity muscle16:49—Could you tell us aboThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast