
Sounds of SAND
Sounds of SAND invites listeners into a contemplative journey through the infinite cycles of existence - from its raw beauty to its deepest mysteries, from its intricate complexity to its profound wonder. Through intimate conversations, thought-provoking interviews, poetic readings, and carefully curated music, we weave together ancient wisdom with lived experience, creating a tapestry of sound that honors the great questions of being
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Nov 30, 2023 • 54min
#63 Ancestral Constellations: Efu Nyaki
SAND co-founders Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo join Euphrasia “Efu” Nyaki for a community conversation on holistic healing from trauma. Efu has developed a method that integrates ancestral wisdom from her Snail Clan in Tanzania, somatic therapy, and family constellations. Her approach helps resolve PTSD, depression, addiction, chronic illness, and more by releasing trauma at the physical, emotional, and spiritual levels.
Euphrasia (Efu) Nyaki was born and raised on the slopes of mountain Kilimanjaro in Tanzania, where she gained the essence and vital healing energy from her ancestors. The strength of her ancestors lead her to earn a Bachelor of Science degree, train as a science teacher, and later to train as a healer using holistic methods. Efu enjoys helping others and for this reason joined an International Catholic Missionary community called Maryknoll sisters of Saint Dominick. Having arrived in Brazil as a missionary in 1993, Efu worked for 5 years with women who suffered from violence using mental health programs in the periphery of the city of João Pessoa, Brazil. In the year 2000 she co- founded two NGOs, and in the past 20 years, Efu has offered bodyworker and herbal medicine trainings for community leaders. For the past 10 years Efu has been teaching Family Constellation (trans-generational trauma healing) and Somatic Experiencing® (SE™) for trauma resolution in Brazil and other parts of the world. Efu was also asked by Dr. Peter A Levine, the developer of SE™, to join his Legacy Faculty to assist him and teach his Master Classes.
Efu’s new book:
Healing Trauma through Family Constellations and Somatic Experiencing: Ancestral Wisdom from the Snail Clan of Tanzania (Sacred Planet)
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Nov 23, 2023 • 1h 1min
#62 The Dreamer’s Dream – Éric Baret
Without either diploma or culture, Éric Baret has no special competence. Touched by the non-dual tradition through Jean Klein's teaching, he suggests that one turn towards listening, free of any notion of gain. Nothing taught, no teacher. Meetings for the joy of being nothing.
Let the Moon Be Free: Conversations on Conversations on Kashmiri Tantra
Articles and writings from Éric on SAND’s Website
Topics:
0:00 – Introduction
3:26 – Lineage
5:18 – Jean Klein
11:53 – Guru / Student Relationship
23:46 – Arc of Awakening
29:56 – Sleep
38:38 – Dream Consciousness
42:56 – Body
50:44 – Listening
57:33 – Let the Moon Be Free
Episode Transcript

Nov 16, 2023 • 33min
#61 Roots Run Deep: Gabor Maté
No statement, no words can speak to the immense human suffering, the devastation and the horrendous humanitarian crisis intensifying in the Middle East. The current tragedy is awakening existential fear, acute grief and deep despair. Unspeakable atrocities have left many in a state of deep shock and in need of support.
Gabor Maté, M.D. is a renowned speaker, and bestselling author who is is highly sought after for his expertise on a range of topics including addiction, stress and childhood development. Rather than offering quick-fix solutions to these complex issues, Dr. Maté weaves together scientific research, case histories, and his own insights and experience to present a broad perspective that enlightens and empowers people to promote their own healing and that of those around them.
Roots Run Deep Resources for Palestine / Israel
Full Video Recording of this Episode
Part two of this Roots Run Deep series live online with Dr. Gabor Maté, Dec 15, 9am PT

Nov 9, 2023 • 1h 1min
#60 Spiritual Warriors: Lama Rod Owens
Lama Rod Owens is a Black Buddhist Southern Queen. An international influencer with a Master of Divinity degree in Buddhist Studies from Harvard Divinity School with a focus on the intersection of social change, identity, and spiritual practice. Author of The New Saints: From Broken Hearts to Spiritual Warriors and Love and Rage: The Path of Liberation through Anger and co-author of Radical Dharma: Talking Race, Love and Liberation, his teachings center on freedom, self-expression, and radical self-care. Highly sought after for talks, retreats, and workshops, his mission is showing you how to heal and free yourself.
Topics:
0:00 – Introduction
2:34 – Global Wars
6:29 – Self-Care at the End of the World
8:57 – Fierce Compassion
14:45 – Ma Tara
20:59 – New Saints
28:03 – Evangelism and Bodhisattva
41:05 – Do We Need Modern-Day Saints?
45:05 – Inclusivity
48:49 – Secular Buddhism and Liberation
55:29 – Prayer

Nov 2, 2023 • 1h 3min
#59 Attuned: Thomas Hübl
Renowned teacher Thomas Hübl discusses his new book 'Attuned' focusing on practicing interdependence for healing personal and collective trauma. The podcast explores emotional attunement in relationships, presence, and collective healing, as well as the importance of listening, transparent communication, and syncing emotions in fostering meaningful connections.

Oct 26, 2023 • 1h 34min
#58 On Extinction & Enchantment: Alixa García
Alixa García is a Colombian born, globally-raised, multi-disciplinary artist, activist, and cultural activator whose work is imbued in ritual, spirit, and deep reverence for our Great Mother, Great Lover, our Earth. She is an award-winning activist, poet, and filmmaker. She is also a professional writer, visual artist, musician, and facilitator. Her work has been published by Whit Press, AK Press, Hatchett, & Daraja Press.Instagram and Linktree
Alixa’s upcoming course on A Course on the Imaginal: Cultivating the Visionary Self
Mentioned in the Episode the late artist and performer Tigre Bailando
Topics:
00:00:00 – Introduction
00:05:45 – Alixa’s Work
00:12:08 – Indigenous Resilience
00:27:36 – Enchantment
00:43:10 – Burning Man 2023
00:59:52 – Surrender
01:18:24 – A Course on the Imaginal
01:22:36 – “A Message from the Future”

Oct 19, 2023 • 1h 11min
#57 The Alchemy of Love: Cynthia Bourgeault and A.H. Almaas
Join Cynthia Bourgeault and A.H. Almaas in a captivating dialogue on the alchemy of love, delving into divine and personal love as catalysts for spiritual transformation. Explore Nonduo Love, the transformative power of love in creation, and the healing impact of love on emotional wounds and trust. Discover the boundless nature of love and its role in self-discovery, relationships, and global transformation.

Oct 12, 2023 • 54min
#56 Wounded Healers: Angel Acosta
Dr. Angel Acosta works to bridge the fields of leadership, social justice & mindfulness. He completed his Ed.D. in the Curriculum and Teaching Department at Teachers College, Columbia University. His research explored healing-centered education as a promising framework for educational leadership development and community care.
Angel is the director of the Wounded Healer Project. This portrait series captures the profiles of nine educators, community leaders and practitioners, all of whom have dedicated their lives to — in some shape or form — creating spaces for others to thrive, flourish and heal.
Topics:
0:00 – Introduction
2:40 – Angel’s Background
10:54 – Spiritual Bypassing
17:06 – The Nuances of Race
21:42 – Wounded Healers
34:38 – The Power of the Voice
39:30 – A Unique Focus on the Teacher
44:41 – Reaction to the Wounded Healer Project
47:16 – Understanding “Systemic”
51:28 – What’s Coming Up for Angel

Oct 5, 2023 • 1h 1min
#55 Cerebrospinal Fluid: Mauro Zappaterra
Mauro Zappaterra obtained his MD and PhD degrees from Harvard Medical School. He completed his PhD doing work with neuronal stem cells and the effects of the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) in brain development and in the adult. He is published in numerous scientific articles on the CSF and his work was chosen as the cover image for the prestigious Neuron Journal. He was also featured in the New England Journal of Medicine in teaching medical students about living with life threatening diseases and in Psychology Today on an article titled “Joy: The art of loving life.”
You can view the video version of this talk on SAND’s website:
An upcoming course with Mauro presented by SAND: The Wisdom of Pain: an online course live with Mauro Zappaterra.
In this course we will:
Explore the definition of pain, and the difference between pain and nociception.
Apply this understanding to developing strategies to better cope with chronic pain.
Examine the difference between acute pain and chronic pain, the importance of acute pain for survival, and the phenomenon of chronic pain.
Discuss phantom limb pain and complex regional pain syndrome.
Survey the evolution of treatment strategies that help people live more fully with these types of pain.
Mauro Zappaterra’s website: HoldingSpace.com
Episode Topics:
0:00 – Introduction
4:36 – Meeting Mauro
9:14 – Connection to the Source
15:46 – Third Ventricle
18:18 – Where does this fluid come from?
22:22 – Our Ancestral CSF in the Sea
25:58 – Cleaning the Brain
32:06 – Water and Veda Austin
33:24 – De. Deep and NADI
38:38 – Movement and Light
43:34 – Breathwork and DMT
51:51 – Yogananda
53:14 – CSF and Energy

Sep 28, 2023 • 60min
#54 Nordic Animism: Rune Hjarnø Rasmussen
Rune Hjarnø Rasmussen is a Historian of Religion, Ph.d from Uppsala University in Sweden. His research into Afro-diasporic strategies for maintaining animist reality in the modern world has lead him towards reading North European cultural history from the perspective of rejected animist knowledge and practice. The objective is to recover Euro-traditioanl forms of landconnectedness ecological knowledge and kinship with the greater community of beings. Rune has lived in a number of countries in Europe, Africa North- and South America and presently runs the platform “Nordic Animism”.
Links:
Nordic Animism
YouTube
Instagram
Topics:
0:00 – Introduction
2:39 – Christianity and Animism
5:13 – Heart of Nordic Animism
10:05 – Decolonization
12:39 – Animism in Academia
14:44 – Universal Animism
17:50 – Bio-ancestry
23:18 – Animism as a Spiritual Practice
41:50 – Animism and Societal Problems
48:00 – Animism and Trauma
55:24 – Getting Started with Animism
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