
Sounds of SAND
Sounds of SAND invites listeners into a contemplative journey through the infinite cycles of existence - from its raw beauty to its deepest mysteries, from its intricate complexity to its profound wonder. Through intimate conversations, thought-provoking interviews, poetic readings, and carefully curated music, we weave together ancient wisdom with lived experience, creating a tapestry of sound that honors the great questions of being
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Jun 13, 2024 • 1h
#89 Arab Jewish Mysticism: Hadar Cohen
Hadar Cohen explores Arab Jewish mysticism, colonialism's impact, and envisions a secular, multi-religious Palestine. She discusses the complexities of Arab Jewish identity, the weaponization of trauma, and the intersection of science and spirituality. Hadar also talks about her Jewish Mysticism School, focusing on experiencing God directly and the practice of tikkun for healing.

Jun 6, 2024 • 5min
#88 Where Olive Trees Weep: Premiere
Today, June 6, 2024, we’re celebrating the release of SAND’s new film Where Olive Trees Weep. And to celebrate the launch of the film, we welcome you to Donate and Watch the film by visiting WhereOliveTreesWeep.com.
Donating to watch the film will also enroll you in a 21-day online event called “The World People’s Premiere” which happening online from June 6-27 with conversations, music, poetry, and . And you can donate to watch the film and sign up to watch all the conversations with speakers such as, Ashira Darwish (star of the film), Dr. Gabor Maté, Angela Davis, V, Daniel Foor, Dareer Tatour, Ilan Pappé, Michael McBride, Mona Haydar, Norman Finkelstein, Pir Zia Inyat Khan, Neta Golan, Tara Brach, and directors of the film, Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo. Whom we also interview on episode #86 if you want to hear more of the story and vision on the film.
The film gives background to the current crisis in Israel/Palestine and brings to light the lives of people we met on our 2022 journey in the occupied West Bank. Their universally human stories speak of intergenerational pain, trauma and resilience. We hope they touch your heart, stir compassion and understanding, and give rise to a pursuit for justice. For without justice, peace remains an empty slogan.
Cinema can be a powerful force for change. Our aim is, beyond mere education, to truly move hearts and minds and inspire audiences to echo the calls for freedom, equality and dignity that have gone unanswered for far too long.
The film is our modest contribution towards our dream for an end to the occupation in Palestine, the attainment of equal rights and fair treatment for Palestinian people, and the spreading of healing for all intergenerational cycles of trauma in the region.
https://whereolivetreesweep.com/

May 30, 2024 • 58min
#87 Cultural Stories & Mysticism of Gaza: Haneen Sabbah
Guest Haneen Sabbah, a Palestinian Falahi woman, shares the vibrant history and culture of Gaza through drumbeats, meditations, and stories. She explores the deep ties between land and people, resilience in face of challenges, and envisions a thriving and free Gaza. The podcast delves into mystical traditions, personal narratives, and advocates for nonviolent resistance. It ends with a call for unity, gratitude, and storytelling in Gaza.

May 23, 2024 • 48min
#86 SAND’s New Film on Spirituality in the Face of Injustice: Zaya & Maurizio Benazzo
In this episode with filmmakers, producers, and founders of Science & Nonduality (SAND) Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo discuss their new film, Where Olive Trees Weep, which explores the impact of colonialism and intergenerational trauma on indigenous cultures, particularly in the occupied West Bank and Palestine. The film serves as a call to action for spiritual activism and aims to amplify the voices of those affected by oppression and injustice. The 21-day release of the film is accompanied by conversations, music, and poetry to provide a more holistic experience for viewers entitled World People's Premiere June 6–27, 2024.
Their aim is, beyond mere education, to truly move hearts and minds and inspire audiences to echo the calls for freedom, equality and dignity that have gone unanswered for far too long. This film hopes to inspire a dream for an end to the occupation in Palestine, the attainment of equal rights and fair treatment for Palestinian people, and the spreading of healing for all intergenerational cycles of trauma in the region.
Visit WhereOliveTreesWeep.com for more information, to join the premiere, and to share in the vision.
Zaya Ralitza Benazzo is a producer and a film director born and raised in Sofia, Bulgaria. She is the co-founder of the nonprofit organization SAND. She has produced and directed several award-winning documentaries including The Wisdom of Trauma, The Art of Life, Rays of the Absolute, America's Chemical Angels, and Wings and Strings.
Maurizio Benazzo grew up in Genova, Italy. At an early age he began actively traveling the spiritual path, exploring the practices of Zen Buddhism, Transcendental Meditation, Yogic philosophy, Catholicism and Philosophy. He has experience in all aspects of production both in front of and behind the camera, including acting, directing, cinematography, and distribution.
Topics
00:00 - Introduction
03:58 - The Path towards the Olive Trees
08:42 - History with Spiritual Activism
13:14 - The Reality in the West Bank
23:19 - Keeping Inspired During the Painful Moments
26:35 - Hopes for the Film
32:15 - The People’s Premiere Event
37:06 - Shadows of Modern Spirituality in the Face of Injustice

May 16, 2024 • 52min
#85 In Our Bones: Osprey Orielle Lake
Osprey Orielle Lake is the Founder and Executive Director of Women’s Earth & Climate Action Network, International (WECAN). She works nationally and internationally with grassroots, Indigenous and business leaders, policy-makers and scientists to promote climate justice, resilient communities, and a just transition to a clean energy future. Osprey is Co-chair of International Advocacy for the Global Alliance for the Rights of Nature and the visionary behind the International Women's Earth and Climate Summit, which brought together 100 women leaders from around the world to draft and implement a Women's Climate Action Agenda. She teaches international climate trainings and directs WECAN’s advocacy work in areas such as Women for Forests, Rights of Nature and UN Forums. She has served on the board of the Praxis Peace Institute and on the Steering Committee for The UN Women’s Major Group for the Rio+20 Earth Summit. Awards include the National Women’s History Project Honoree, Taking The Lead To Save Our Planet, and the Woman Of The Year Outstanding Achievement Award from the California Federation Of Business And Professional Women. Osprey is the author of the award-winning book, Uprisings for the Earth: Reconnecting Culture with Nature.Her new book is The Story is in Our Bones: How Worldviews and Climate Justice Can Remake a World in Crisis
Topics:
00:00 — Introduction
08:05 — Path to the Book
14:42 — Moderns and Ancient Science
20:24 — Integrative and Interconnected Ways Forward
25:28 — Gaza and the Polycrisis
35:28 — Composting Cultural Toxins
42:00 — Remembering How to Listen
45:40 — Stories of Resilience
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May 9, 2024 • 1h 3min
#84 Grieving in Community: Mirabai Starr & Mona Haydar
A recording of excerpts from a live SAND Community Gathering hosted by Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo.
In these times of unbearable anguish, as the already beleaguered Palestinian community is being massacred and starved before our astonished eyes, our own grieving flows into the sea of human suffering and we remember that we belong to each other.
Mirabai Starr is an award-winning author of creative non-fiction and contemporary translations of sacred literature. She taught Philosophy and World Religions at the University of New Mexico-Taos for 20 years and now teaches and speaks internationally on contemplative practice and inter-spiritual dialog. A certified bereavement counselor, Mirabai helps mourners harness the transformational power of loss. Her latest book, WILD MERCY: Living the Fierce & Tender Wisdom of the Women Mystics, was named one of the “Best Books of 2019”. She lives with her extended family in the mountains of northern New Mexico.
Mona Haydar is a young Muslim Syrian-American poet, musician, workshop leader and speaker who gained global recognition through her “Ask A Muslim” project and the viral hip-hop music video “Hijabi (Wrap My Hijab).” Her debut EP “Barbarican” addresses global patriarchy, orientalism, immigration policy, white supremacy, and suicide. A Master’s graduate in Theology from Union Theological Seminary, Mona speaks at churches, synagogues, universities and international forums, engaging audiences on art, Islam, feminism, hip hop, theology, and interfaith dialogue.
Topics
00:00 — Introduction
06:52 — Mirabai’s Introduction
16:42 — Mona’s Introduction
21:06 — Interfaith Teachings on Grief
32:40 — Islamic Teachings on Grief
41:58 — The Grief of Loss
50:11 — Closing Prayer
55:58 — Song from Desiree Dawson & Mona Hayder
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Also mentioned in this episode is SAND’s Fundraiser to help relocate a family from the Genocide in Gaza.

May 2, 2024 • 58min
#83 Taoist Inner Alchemy: Mattias Daly
Taoist practitioner, Mattias Daly, discusses the core principles of Taoism, the path of Inner Alchemy, and the importance of heart practice. Topics include energies of Inner Alchemy, Chan Buddhism, and navigating the Polycrisis. Daly provides insights into translating Taoist texts and the intricate processes of Daoist alchemy.

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Apr 25, 2024 • 59min
#82 From Wounds to Wholeness: Peter A. Levine
Resilience expert and trauma therapist Peter A. Levine shares his personal journey of resolving childhood trauma, touching on topics such as writing about trauma, uncovering layers of trauma, intimate relationships, encounters with past life trauma, ancestral healing, and connections to ancient healing practices. The podcast explores the power of storytelling, Indigenous healing, and the importance of communal healing and unity.

Apr 18, 2024 • 1h 6min
#81 Ecology of Care: DRĖĖĖMY
Reem (DRĖĖĖMY) Abdou is a native Egyptian international interdisciplinary sound artist, embodiment and meditation guide, curator, cultural worker, and community building founder of the inclusive global impact agency for women+ & BIPOC holistic artists: The Collective BAE. As an intentional DJ and spoken word poet, her work harnesses music, movement, and meditation to activate real shifts at the intersection of transformational creativity, social and healing justice, and ecosystem consciousness.
Links:
www.dreeemy.com
instagram.com/dreeemy
www.collectivebae.com
Upcoming projects:
Join The BAE (RE)MEMBERSHIPS: An Ecology of Care for Conscious Creatives. We'll be launching a full training course this May.
The release of the 2nd EP: SALTWATERS in the Mother & Water project. It will be released this May.
Topics:
00:00 — Introduction
03:00 — Ancestry & Dream work
06:45 — Communities
11:19 — Bass Yoga
17:19 — Gradients & Binaries
23:17 — Ecologies of Care
32:33 — Sacred Activism
36:51 — Post-COVID Shift
45:31 — Egyptian Lineage
53:44 — Upcoming Projects
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Apr 11, 2024 • 60min
#80 Awaking Hope: Rev. Deborah L. Johnson
Rev Deborah L Johnson (Rev D) is a dynamic organizer, strategist, facilitator, public speaker, andspoken word artist, known for her ability to bring clarity to complex and emotionally chargedissues with humor and compassion. As an organizational consultant specializing in culturaldiversity, she serves the public, private, non-profit, and military sectors. Her clients haveincluded, MCA Universal, ATT, Apple Inc, Hewlett Packard, Kaiser Permanente, US Coast GuardAcademy, Ford Foundation, SBC Communications, UCSF, Prudential, and Kodak. Rev Deborah isa successful co-litigant in two landmark civil rights cases in California. The first resulted in theinclusion of sexual orientation in the state’s Civil Rights Bill in 1984 setting a national precedent,while the second staved off repeal of the state’s Domestic Partnership in 2005. For her social justice work, she has been featured in numerous books and films including Showtime’s Jumpin’ The Broom and has received many lifetime achievement awards including induction into the Board of Preachers at the MLK Jr. Chapel of Morehouse College.
RevD's Upcoming Courses:
Yes to OnenessThe 6-session “YES to Oneness” workshop is preventative medicine for divisiveness. Guided by divine downloads from my books The Sacred YES and Your Deepest Intent, we’ll go on a spiritually transformative experience.
How to DepolarizeThe 3-session “How to Depolarize” workshop provides diagnostic techniques and treatment plans for divisiveness. It is an interactive skills building practicum based on my 40+ years as a movement organizer, corporate DEI consultant, spiritual leader, and successful co-litigant in two landmark civil rights cases. This workshop expands upon the concepts I recently presented at Harvard Divinity School.
Topics:
0:00 — Introduction
2:51 — Reconnecting Post-Pandemic
4:29 — Keeping Hope Alive
7:41 — On Nonduality
12:27 — Balancing Social Justice
19:59 — Everything is in Vibrations of Possibilities
25:58 — Interfaith / Omnifaith Exploration
33:14 — Reconnecting to our Natural State
40:06 — Knowing Truth
45:10 — Advice for Burnout and Connection
50:42 — Learning and Growing in Community
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