

Divorce etc... hosted by the exEXPERTS (T.H. and Jessica)
T.H. Irwin and Jessica Herzberg
T.H. and Jess are best friends who lived parallel lives - engaged a month apart, married a month apart, and after 13 yrs found out their husbands were cheating and traveling with their girlfriends as couples...for years!
Divorce etc... is a funny, uplifting, no-BS conversation with best friends who know how important friendship is during hard times. We've lived it, so we get it!
We ask the hard questions to lawyers, financial advisors, therapists, dating experts and anyone who can help you get through divorce. You don't know what you don't know, but we do!
@exexperts (TikTok, IG, FB)
Divorce etc... is a funny, uplifting, no-BS conversation with best friends who know how important friendship is during hard times. We've lived it, so we get it!
We ask the hard questions to lawyers, financial advisors, therapists, dating experts and anyone who can help you get through divorce. You don't know what you don't know, but we do!
@exexperts (TikTok, IG, FB)
Episodes
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Dec 24, 2021 • 23min
"Gray Divorce" Estate Planning - Before, During and After Divorce | S1, Ep. 62
Divorce over 50 is becoming more common, but the issues and finances need to be treated differently, as this is a time where retirement is a much bigger concern. If you're in this age group, this episode will give you the information and tips on the steps you must take right now, in order to best serve your needs during your divorce. (Guest: Laura Cowan, Trust & Estates Attorney)
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Dec 23, 2021 • 33min
Rebound Relationship or Real Thing? How do you know? | S1, Ep. 61
Relationships after divorce can be tricky, particularly when it comes to knowing if it's really right, versus a rebound coming off your marriage. Rebound relationships don't have to be immediately after a divorce (or break-up), sometimes they can come months or years later...it's all about understanding where you are in your journey to be able to tell. Hear some of the signs that might indicate whether you are - or have been - in a rebound relationship and how to find the real thing. (Guest: Julie Wein, LCSW)
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Dec 22, 2021 • 23min
Different Options for Getting Divorced | S1, Ep. 60
There are multiple ways that a couple can get divorced, and it's important to know and understand all of your options before choosing the path you take with your soon-to-be ex. The common options are litigation, mediation and collaborative divorce, and they all have different aspects that will affect your outcome. You may also find yourself integrating more than one of these options into your process, in order to proceed in the best way for you and your family. Hear exactly what these different divorce options are and how they work, so you make the right choice. (Guest: Deb Perullo, Certified Divorce Coach and Mediator)
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Dec 21, 2021 • 18min
Sometimes You Just Need to Hear "It's OK" | S1, Ep. 59
Society burdens women with an undue amount of responsibility and sense of failure when it comes to getting divorced, and this is a stigma we all have to work together to change. The reactions to women feeling sad, depressed and trying to deal with the adversity we face during divorce is very different than the way those same things are handled when men are going through it. At the end of the day, we all want and need to hear it's ok. All of it. This episode peels back the layers on how and why it's so important for women to support and help each other through the difficult process of divorce. (Guest: Helen Archontou, CEO YWCA Bergen County)
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Dec 20, 2021 • 34min
How Kids Handle the Holidays with Bella Duncan (@akidwithtwohomes) | S1, Ep. 58
If you have kids, stop and listen to this episode! As hard as it is for parents of divorce to deal with the holidays, it's equally hard for our kids. We mean well, but we often say and do the wrong things, which can make it worse for the children (and us). This episode is filled with all the things kids think and want to say but don't, as well as things you may never have thought of, but that can actually make your holiday season a whole lot smoother. Bella is a child of divorce and she reveals the things you never heard before. (Guest: Bella Duncan, REAL LIFE expert, @akidwithtwohomes)
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Dec 20, 2021 • 26min
How to Use a Therapist to Get Out of Your Marriage | S1, Ep. 57
Making the decision to get a divorce is one of the most difficult things you can go through, and it can often take a long time to come to that conclusion. If you are in couple counseling and feeling like divorce is what you want, there are ways your therapist can help you to have that conversation with your partner in a productive way. This episode offers tips and advice on how to use your therapist to get you through this painful process so you and your partner can focus on next steps. (Guest: Michelle Weisman, LCSW)
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Dec 19, 2021 • 26min
Why Yoga? | S1, Ep. 56
What if you hate yoga? How many times have you heard it...everyone saying to do yoga because it's THE answer for all the stress in your life. And who doesn't need help with stress during a divorce? But what if you don't like it...is there a way to learn to love yoga - if not for the mindfulness, then at least for the abs? Neither Jessica nor T.H. enjoy yoga, so listen to this conversation on the truth about yoga and why you might decide to learn to love it. (Guest: Thara Natalie, Certified Yoga Teacher & Owner of Fire Shaper yoga studio)
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Dec 19, 2021 • 20min
Health & Diet Myths | S1, Ep. 55
Thinking about revamping your food and exercise routine? Separation and divorce are a popular time to assess what's working or not, and to make some big changes. Revenge body, anyone? We asked all the questions about what's true versus what's a myth around some of the most common diets and workout routines. Listen up to get started on your own path to the best you yet! (Guest: Hillary Irwin, Nutritionist)
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Dec 17, 2021 • 20min
Tips to Protect Your Assets | S1, Ep. 54
Assets are a huge concern when getting divorced - who gets what, and how can you protect what's yours? Plus, do you even know what your biggest asset is? Spoiler alert - it's not your home! Be sure to hear everything you need to know on the best ways to protect what you've got. (Guest: Stacy Francis, Francis Financial & Savvy Ladies)
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Dec 14, 2021 • 41min
How Religion and Spirituality Affect Divorce | S1, Ep. 53
It's a sad fact that many people who get divorced often feel more shame and judgement about their divorce, based on their religious and cultural beliefs. Divorce doesn't just affect you and your partner and children...it affects all of your loved ones in some way - siblings, parents and friends. How do you navigate the feelings of letting other people down? Of feeling like you're doing something that your religion or culture frowns upon? Of feeling like you're doing something wrong by getting divorced and will be judged or shunned because of it? This is a powerful and uplifting conversation with Rabbi Adina Lewittes all about spirituality and divorce, and the ways to serve yourself best during what is one of the most difficult times of your life. (Guest: Rabbi Adina Lewittes)
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